Social WR Lounge v270 Hesitation Kills

[Gregolian]

My understanding was it was the actor's idea for him to whistle "A-Hunting We Will Go" as he shows up.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Dot was a pretty great female character

 

[JDragon]

He wasn’t on the list that I stole from

Here is a great list you could paste into the OP

 

[LMP]

I did cut the list down a bit, but Buffy was the only female on it, and honestly I can’t think of a great female tv character that I could have subbed in. We are greatly misrepresented, and honestly I basically control the remote in my household.

You are clearly very sexist against women. You should feel deep shame imo.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Walter White is a horrible character. Such an idiot bitch that can’t quit when he’s ahead and actually care about his family which is why he started everything. So many stupid mistakes. Jessie was a better character.

Guess it shows that that feeling of power corrupts above all

Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to like or admire him. He's an interesting character, though.

 

[irish_thug]

Given the options, went with Tyrion. But he wasn't even my favorite character.

 

[essie]

Your first two posts together, between "writing off those criticisms as identity politics maybe misses the point" and then, in response to my view that left-punching claims of bigotry from places of great power are more often farcical than right-punching claims from places without power, the following "the issue the left has with the moderate wings discussion of identity is that the left wing is so by and large made up of white men who believe that class is more significant hurdle to get over than race," then the claims that the left has mistreated black voters, then the claims that the left appropriates black movements to work toward self-interested causes to the exclusion of black causes, and then "say the center left's identity claims are farcical but they are ironically actually coming from the identity groups that suffer the most," when I had at no point mentioned identity claims from anywhere but major politicians.

Responses to my beliefs and analyses that contain descriptions of the left's claimed bigotry, racial insensitivity, and exclusionary interests are hard to construe as anything other than an attempt to link my argument and beliefs to those prejudices.



Chapo Trap House? I've never listened to their podcast, and I'd be surprised if they weren't much more woke or whatever than the average liberal, but I know their thing is "dirtbag leftism" or something like that, where they eschew liberal norms of discourse in favor of more populist working class dialects, i.e going low instead of going high. So that's definitely a language more conducive to sexism.

That's a very interesting response. I'm not sure why you are assuming when I say the "the left", as you have quoted me here, I am meaning you other than that you take some ownership over that position on this site? My point was that those issues exist on the left and that doesn't mean that just because you are on the left that you inherent those issues yourself, although I think that self reflection is helpful and don't understand the striving for moral perfection that often comes from leftists (not saying you to be clear). If I upset you I am sorry and if I used language that you felt was ascribing motives to you that you don't have I am also sorry.

Yes Chapo Trap House, thank you. I don't know what being woke really means, it seems like a defense mechanism by the right to combat legitimate claims of bigotry but I just know those guys suck.

 

[Gregolian]

Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to like or admire him. He's an interesting character, though.

I think he's written so you feel sympathetic to him up until immediately following him saving Jesse's ass by running over the two dealers with the car. That's sorta the point of no return for him. It all starts when he stands there watching Jane die while she throws up and aspirates her own vomit.

 

[JDragon]

What's amazing is that Buffy really is one of the all-time great characters and series. But it is getting cancelled over Whedon being a dick and the rapey scene in Season 6.

 

[essie]

Omar is actually one of the least interesting characters in the Wire because he's the only one who exists outside of the reality of the show. I would say there are at the very least ten better candidates for best on that show alone starting with Bubbles.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Walter White really wasn't a redeemable character for the last 2 seasons but Bryan Cranston's performance >>> the guy that played Pinkman

 

[Lord Coke]

 

[Gregolian]

Omar is actually one of the least interesting characters in the Wire because he's the only one who exists outside of the reality of the show. I would say there are at the very least ten better candidates for best on that show alone starting with Bubbles.

Omar Little is based on a real person that Simon and Burns knew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_Andrews

That's what makes Omar so great is that someone like that actually existed.

And there's the scene where he completely bushwhacks the drug attorney:


"Same as you right?"
"EXCUSE ME?!"
"I have the shotgun, you have the briefcase.... but it's all in the game though right?"


Randy is one of the better characters in the show that got a completely raw deal.

 

[CubicleGangster]

Great female TV characters:

 

[essie]

Oh yeah Britta would be up there too and the one I most relate to.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I think he's written so you feel sympathetic to him up until immediately following him saving Jesse's ass by running over the two dealers with the car. That's sorta the point of no return for him. It all starts when he stands there watching Jane die while she throws up and aspirates her own vomit.

Jane got what was coming to her for getting Jesse hooked on heroin.

And Jesse never would have gotten clean if Walt didn't let that happen.... he would have been DEAD WITHIN A WEEK

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Ew Britta

Joan Holloway >>>
Naomi Nagata >>>
Leslie Knope >>>
Alexis Rose >>>
Beth Harmon a bit OP but she gets a >

 

[Gregolian]

Jane got what was coming to her for getting Jesse hooked on heroin.

And Jesse never would have gotten clean if Walt didn't let that happen.... he would have been DEAD WITHIN A WEEK

I get all that, but Walt's "turn" was around there. I know he killed the dude in the basement of Jesse's house and then disposed of the body but the Jane death was a real conscious decision on his part to not intervene. As I recall minus that guy in season 1 in the basement it was the first time he took a real conscious decision to kill someone by not acting when there was alternative things he could have done.

The Tucco murder always came across as kill or be killed so I'm discounting that one.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to like or admire him. He's an interesting character, though.

Even the not liking or admiring I'm fine with. But he just made so many out of character stupid mistakes, it ended up making him not a good character to me

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Great female TV characters:

I wish we could have seen more of Keema going full McNulty at the end.