Social Wr Lounge V253: I hate when my buds fight

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My Spot said:
Murder or manslaughter?
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I think he should be guilty of manslaughter not murder but we'll see.

essie said:
Fast verdict has me hopeful.
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It shouldn't. Fast verdict means Chauvin's attorney can use that fact at appeal that "my client didn't get a fair shake as the jury was poisoned by XYZ from members of the public weighing in". Appeal isn't about innocence or guilty. It's about proving whether the trial court followed the rules like they were supposed to and whether there were things done by mistake.
 
HockeyBjj said:
Chauvin verdict in, we find out in about an hour, for anyone interested
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Gregolian said:
I think he should be guilty of manslaughter not murder but we'll see.


It shouldn't. Fast verdict means Chauvin's attorney can use that fact at appeal that "my client didn't get a fair shake as the jury was poisoned by XYZ from members of the public weighing in". Appeal isn't about innocence or guilty. It's about proving whether the trial court followed the rules like they were supposed to and whether there were things done by mistake.
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That's a fair point, I'm thinking more about how obvious the verdict should be.
 
essie said:
That's a fair point, I'm thinking more about how obvious the verdict should be.
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He should be convicted of the manslaughter count. I don't think he should be convicted of the murder charge but I also don't know exactly how that charge breaks down in Minnesota.
 
Gregolian said:
He should be convicted of the manslaughter count. I don't think he should be convicted of the murder charge but I also don't know exactly how that charge breaks down in Minnesota.
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allow me to help:

MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
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Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings.

Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

(1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or


MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:

(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or
 
Can’t they wait until morning when all the peaceful protesters are sleeping in?
 
Social Distance Warrior said:
allow me to help:

MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
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Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings.

Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

(1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or


MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:

(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or
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Manslaughter like I said, is the appropriate charge here, if you exclude emotion, bias etc.
 
Gregolian said:
I think he should be guilty of manslaughter not murder but we'll see.


It shouldn't. Fast verdict means Chauvin's attorney can use that fact at appeal that "my client didn't get a fair shake as the jury was poisoned by XYZ from members of the public weighing in". Appeal isn't about innocence or guilty. It's about proving whether the trial court followed the rules like they were supposed to and whether there were things done by mistake.
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I wouldn’t blame the jury one bit for finding him guilty of murder. No one unrelated should lose sleep over a POS spending the rest of his life locked up.
 
My Spot said:
I wouldn’t blame the jury one bit for finding him guilty of murder. No one unrelated should lose sleep over a POS spending the rest of his life locked up.
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I wouldn't either.

I'm just throwing this shit out there based on what I do for work.
 
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