Crime Would you support labeling ALL street gangs as terrorists?

A dead baby or two a week per city from a stray bullet isn't a big deal. If we do something about it, we'll have even more black and brown people behind bars and that is so much worse than dead babies.
Why only black and brown? There are a metric fuck ton of white gang members.
 
LIke they just did with MS13 and Tren de Aragua

It's pretty bad in LA and cities like Chicago. The crimes they commit, the innocents that die each year that get caught up in their shootings. The people they rob and kill, the homes they break into.

Would you support labeling all street gangs as terrorists?
No, because terrorism has a very specific definition. Watering it down would defeat the purpose of the designation and its tradeoffs in the first place.
 
When gangs become so powerful they eventually infiltrate politics, so it's not entirely false.

Exactly. These guys always jerk off about how great The Wire was but they seem to have missed a central theme.
 
Exactly. These guys always jerk off about how great The Wire was but they seem to have missed a central theme.
What's this central theme that was missed? And how would a terrorism designation help the government or society here?
 
No. Foreign gangs that come here illegally to commit crimes and violence, absolutely. But not domestic Gangs. However, if we want to stop the violence and culture that mainly kills young minorities involved, we do need stricter laws and rehabilitation. The culture is absurd and leads to nothing but pain, death and jail. They took down the mob, they need to do the same with gangs.

In NY and other areas there are new crimes committed by young minorities that organize "takeovers". They post something on social media and show up in the hundreds and "take over" an area. Could be a mall, a street, a store, a pizza place. Then they loot, wreak havoc, flip cop cars, race stolen cars, show up on dozens of atvs and street bikes etc. People get hurt, robbed, etc. This is a mob, a new type of crime, is this terrorism?





 
That street gangs and local politics go hand in hand in America.

There was a whole season on it...
There was also entire arcs on the futility of going after gangs with brute force, the importance of drug decriminalization, the need to invest more in schools and non police means, etc.

What exactly does the wire have to do with designating gangs terror groups? What would this accomplish that RICO laws/Kingpin act don't.
 
Why only black and brown? There are a metric fuck ton of white gang members.
all those militias, for starters. 3%ers, proud boys, oath keepers, neo Nazi groups, biker gangs, etc.

We’ve seen organized criminal activity from all of them so if the government wants to call gangs terrorists they’re going to piss off a lot of right wing leaning groups.
 
Sure if we operated in a world where government and law enforcement themselves weren't a gang and terrorists lol

Behind these street gangs you'll find the CIA propped them up and fuelled them to get more blacks in prisons (Crack gangster rap era ie. Freeway rick ross).

War on drugs = government sold more drugs than anyone

War on terror = government destabilized and radicalized more terrorists than anyone

Oh because it's Trump we suddenly trust government to do the right thing ah gotcha lol
 
No. It's like equating petty theft to bank robbery. I'm fine with gang activity aggravating the punishment given tho.
Not really, gangs operate year round, continuously recruiting and offending creating a never ending pool of victims. There are countless gangs of many sizes that have significantly higher death tolls than any terrorist ever documented.
 
They are two fundamentally different groups, IMO. Being someone who is brainwashed to fight an ideological war against an entire civilization, is not the same as someone who turns to gang life, because they grew up poor, fatherless, in an urban center, and that gang was the first real sense of identity they had in life.

Regardless of death tolls; context matters. Both are a negative reflection on the societies that create them.
 
Hard no. It's too arbitrary and open for abuse, which is exactly why the Trump team is using it.
 
No that's not the way. As posted punsh the members and supporters under fedural RICO and add on charges.
 
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