Would you have a problem with your wife clubbing?

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I respectfully disagree about a lack of free will. I personally believe that each of us is subject to chance and the decisions of others, but we are ultimately in control of our own lives.

Again, I think there is a paradoxical approach that being, free will in picking or choosing but there being conflicting universal principles at work. Take gravity for instance. How about the element of time? What about the genetic lottery?

You take Jon Jones; two brothers in the NFL. The other there being the undisputed reigning LHW UFC champ (fuck the belt stripped we know the deal the same for boxing titles and different sanctioning bodies etc). With respect to "genetic lottery), JBJ and family did well here. Others did poorly. A unattractive woman or man can tell themselves they are pretty all they want.

You can then argue god/no God. I have no clue what the heck is out there. I think we have free will but there are definitely those who seem to have lady luck on their side. People with golden horses. Guys that pull girls way the fuck out of their league.

Going back to "god;" the church used dear to keep social order. Nobody gives a fuck anymore. There is a bit of fear but it's terrorism driven more than church.

 

[thoughtsone]

Well, that is a bit of a double edged sword for me, I did make a bit of money being a touring musician, and she was fine with that. She doesn't club but if she did I would be ok with it. I am very honest with what happens on tour, and its not all great for her. That said, at the end of the day anyone who puts up with my ass with no complaint is worthy of some trust. To be fair if you are worried about what she does at the club, then you are worried about yourself in the same position.

 

[Phlog]

I am on the fence about "fate." I think it's paradoxical. Like chance for instance. I noticed I find lady luck the busier I am in any respect to my life.

I think the answer resides in imagining where the free will exists. One has predetermined genetics, one is influenced by ones environment. Basically there's no place in human experience for a either/or decision. It's not possible to free from pre determined influence.

Science also suggests decisions happen before one is aware of them. If one is not conscious then the decision is not a matter of free will. Although it's reasonable to suggest the subconscious is exerting will, then we're back to why the decisions are made as such, genes and experience.

 

[sub_thug]

It's craziness as is sexodos and mgtow though, at the core, the ideologies have meaning. Ego gets involved and ruins it.

If you take feminist Christina Sommers for instance, her approach to fairness and politics, opportunity for employment is ideal. She then combats feminism 3.0 where college campus females need safe places, puppies, and blankets. It's ridiculous and insulting to women. The lack of accountability by the courts and in women for their actions is disgusting.

I think this is all just a byproduct of a larger problem: A lack of accountability in society overall. In a generation full of participation trophies, safe spaces, anti-bullying campaigns, and fear of violence, we have created individuals that are afraid of consequences. They want to be able to flap their gums and say whatever they want to, but as soon as someone challenges them, they cry "oppression" and retreat to their safe spaces. That's a problem that both genders have contributed to, and it sucks. Weakness is not an attractive quality.

I boycott mainstream media, new papers, and anything left wing pro victimhood and adverse to competition. Accountability is everything. Self ownership isn't gender specific. Your approach and perspective here us an example of being an up right man. You have character. The problem I see is in the lack of ownership among the female population.

In a article written in the north, a man was ordered by the court to pay child support despite dna proof. This is the female chameleon. I feel most guts have this belief that women are cinderella like Disney characters. To their disbelief, they later find out after infidelity and a botched marriage.

Not all. The problem is far too many shouldn't get the ring. Men fall in love with the puss.

I wouldn't be too quick to pay me a compliment, haha. I am a human that is as ripe with flaws as anyone else. But character isn't gender-specific. There are plenty of women who are sound character and reason, just as there are good men in the world. There are women of poor character, just as there are men of poor character. I take my mom and sister for example. They are both outstanding people who I am proud to call family, both of sound values and judgment. I think it has a lot more to do with the family environment that you grow up in than anything else.

Where did that happen? If it's in the US, and there isn't a LOT more to the story, then that judge should be removed from the bench. That's absolutely insane and disgusting. I'm hoping that there is much more to the story than that, or else I've just further lost respect for the American legal system.

Men trying to tie down puss with a ring that shouldn't be tied down is a story as old as time. Haha, nothing new there. Guys marry strippers, the first piece of tail that they can get, etc. Oh well, stupid gonna stupid.

You are upright. You have character. To expect the same in women is a reach. I would demand it in a partner I were married to but it is a rarity IMHO. Infidelity use to be a male thing or so society. Cuckoldry is so common now a days.

It's definitely out there. Like any other treasure, you just have to find it.

There is so much social engineering in the school dystems; girl power promoted on walls of campuses, a male edu Contines to crumble. It's been that way for years. It's constructed that women are doing so well but with affirmative action, with a education system tailored to women, surprise how the ratio is 3:1 or 4:1 for acquisition of degreed pending state. Still female unhappiness declines to an all time low.

I agree about 2 > 1 parent

What the court deems alright for the children and what actually is are different from reality.

We can say that things changed. For better, I am not so sure. A woman wrote, "who destroyed the American Family. She sees it.

There is a passive aggressive approach of communism asdociated with all this cultural Marxist, pc. .. All the hubba about "I don't need a man"

brb guys, collecting his money

Brb guys, collecting welfare

It sickens me.

As a guy that hits on lots of women, teats the waters to see who I have chemistry with, you would be disgusted by what people think is OK. This thread for instance lol

It's a culture of victim. I see the problem and I won't play the game. I am a normal gut, fit, attractive, good job, ambitious. A buddy that models fucks everything. You have women married or mom's proposition him.

I was at a fitness club four weeks ago. A woman gave me a pen. Her # was on it. Said female proposition me with sex. She is married with children. She lives in his house but of course she us the victim. Another time, my buddy that models and I were asked, "how close are we?" She wanted to get spit roasted. Again a woman who was engaged dude

Again, I think there is a bigger problem at play. We live in a world of instant gratification. We value things like partying and

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I think the answer resides in imagining where the free will exists. One has predetermined genetics, one is influenced by ones environment. Basically there's no place in human experience for a either/or decision. It's not possible to free from pre determined influence.

Science also suggests decisions happen before one is aware of them. If one is not conscious then the decision is not a matter of free will. Although it's reasonable to suggest the subconscious is exerting will, then we're back to why the decisions are made as such, genes and experience.

Without getting into too much detail; I got buddies into "stuff" in respect your exploring consciousness. Many into yoga and meditation. One guy went to south America on a retreat to a tribal area with a shaman. They did vision quests. I cannot remember what was involved but all natural herbs, remedies etc. Others involved in dmt/spirit molecule (check the Netflix documentary or Rogan podcast ). Dmt is in everything. The point isn't to get fucked up but to explore consciousness. People thousands of years ago use you do this sort of stuff but it's banned now. More state control pretending to protect public safety (yeah OK bud.. check the effects of pharmaceutical drugs).

Disclaimer : not suggesting nor recommending

The experience is life changing. Dmt/dmt4aco/ there is a Vice on that frog where it's got high potency dmt. Just imagine tapping into pure consciousness; pre cognitive.

I have had moments of being pre cognitive. For example, flipping through a 52 card deck. Just knowing the right card to pick. Take that to the depth of infinity.

It's all one big mind fuck really. Even taking in "god." If people took religion for aligory and pulled meaning. Viewed god in respect of "architect of the universe /life" but the whole question remains of free will. Again I feel like you are on your something but again paradoxical in that, you have choice but there does seem to be a fate factor.

Note my novel here and fascination with the butterfly effect, fate, destiny, time travel, lucid dreaming /hemisync, astral projection etc. The way you can alter your life with simple changes.

Way the fuck off topic; maybe a perfect discussion for another thread. Bringing it back to the topic; I always like to fuck with it (butterfly effect, time lines, fate/destiny) in a good way. Spontaneously hoping on a plane last minute. Chatting up random stranger or having a flirt with a cute young blonde. Fuck what if... I always want to experience and explore.

My only caution to you; does this belief hold you back? Is it a limiting belief? Self fulfilling prophecy? I definitely believe there is an element of truth here. I just don't second guess planting my flag and really running with my vision/purpose /dreams.

Good chatting gentlemen. Rarely in life do I meet a woman that can get into a discussion like this. Not saying they can't. I just rarely see it. This is coming from a guy who isn't not gun shy nor scared to swing quite often.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I think this is all just a byproduct of a larger problem: A lack of accountability in society overall. In a generation full of participation trophies, safe spaces, anti-bullying campaigns, and fear of violence, we have created individuals that are afraid of consequences. They want to be able to flap their gums and say whatever they want to, but as soon as someone challenges them, they cry "oppression" and retreat to their safe spaces. That's a problem that both genders have contributed to, and it sucks. Weakness is not an attractive quality.

This is the education system we have.
Participation trophies, a education system tailored toward women, teachers mostly female, many of whom are single mom's and resent men/little boys. How many boys are "diagnosed" with ADHD or force fed pills. Safe spaces of blankets and puppies ... Thank you feminism. It's a culture of victim but, we are now seeing a push back with Trump. We are seeing a fb pushback on autocorrect algorithms implanted to make things pc. People are getting pissed.

I recall a teacher telling me "no you are wrong. He isn't a fireman." Gtfo!

I wouldn't be too quick to pay me a compliment, haha. I am a human that is as ripe with flaws as anyone else. But character isn't gender-specific. There are plenty of women who are sound character and reason, just as there are good men in the world. There are women of poor character, just as there are men of poor character. I take my mom and sister for example. They are both outstanding people who I am proud to call family, both of sound values and judgment. I think it has a lot more to do with the family environment that you grow up in than anything else.

My environment maybe a issue. Tons of shitty character, single mom's all over, and tons of victim culture. My parents are married. I am very close to family. I value the traditional household. I think what is valued now a days is lower class.

Where did that happen? If it's in the US, and there isn't a LOT more to the story, then that judge should be removed from the bench. That's absolutely insane and disgusting. I'm hoping that there is much more to the story than that, or else I've just further lost respect for the American legal system.

Man who didn't father twins must pay child support
KIRK MAKIN

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

Last updated Thursday, Apr. 09, 2009 9:57PM EDT
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-child-support/article1146243/?service=mobile

No. It was up north but more and more common. As is the over ruling of a prenuptial agreement.

I avoid single mom's like the plague.

The narrative about single mom's being "strong an independent " sicken me when they consume more welfare child support and assistance to tax payers for shitty choices in a mate.

Fury of man forced to pay child support for 13 years to girl he's never met despite DNA test proving she's not his
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-met-despite-DNA-test-proving-s-not-his.html

Men trying to tie down puss with a ring that shouldn't be tied down is a story as old as time. Haha, nothing new there. Guys marry strippers, the first piece of tail that they can get, etc. Oh well, stupid gonna stupid.

Exactly. I got asked to replace a battery operated bf but the girl got weird shortly after. Very awkward young woman.

It's definitely out there. Like any other treasure, you just have to find it.

True. Given the links above and the aftermath I have watched guys go through, I don't see the value in marrying somebody; spending thousands on a specific day only to risk more resources no matter how unfaithful or awful a person maybe especially after gifting her kids.

Spoiler

80 Percent of Divorces Are Filed By Women
According to the National Center for Health Statistics 50 percent of marriages in the United States end in divorce. Of the marriages that end in divorce, 80 percent of the divorces are initiated (filed) by women.
http://www.uplifting-love.com/2013/08/80-percent-of-divorces-are-filed-by.html?m=1

Shocker there? For once, it would be nice to hear "we tried. It didn't work out. He us a good man and a great father."

It's always free money, she gets the kids, and victim hood pity party while climbing back on the cawk carousel.
#gross

Again, I think there is a bigger problem at play. We live in a world of instant gratification. We value things like partying and

+ 1

I think the problem is entitlement. Instant coffee/dinners. Participation trophies. Skiing down cawk mountain in youth till playboys stop calling and now it's time to play mom and homemaker.

The problem is that it's gifted to women as the holy grail from youth. Women are taught they want it. They get it and they bail. Plus they get it regardless of their poor lifestyle choices. Let's say it like it is. Men are bashed in society. When is disgusting female behavior called out?

Marriage is putting together a lot of money in celebration ahead of the event. Be like giving you a chewed for a million dollar job before you started. It's absurd. What incentives are there to do a good job? Same goes for marriage.

 

[rocketskates]

No way, wouldn but bother me at all for my wife to be club...oh wait I misread the titled

 

[Phlog]

Without getting into too much detail; I got buddies into "stuff" in respect your exploring consciousness. Many into yoga and meditation. One guy went to south America on a retreat to a tribal area with a shaman. They did vision quests. I cannot remember what was involved but all natural herbs, remedies etc. Others involved in dmt/spirit molecule (check the Netflix documentary or Rogan podcast ). Dmt is in everything. The point isn't to get fucked up but to explore consciousness. People thousands of years ago use you do this sort of stuff but it's banned now. More state control pretending to protect public safety (yeah OK bud.. check the effects of pharmaceutical drugs).

Disclaimer : not suggesting nor recommending

The experience is life changing. Dmt/dmt4aco/ there is a Vice on that frog where it's got high potency dmt. Just imagine tapping into pure consciousness; pre cognitive.

I have had moments of being pre cognitive. For example, flipping through a 52 card deck. Just knowing the right card to pick. Take that to the depth of infinity.

It's all one big mind fuck really. Even taking in "god." If people took religion for aligory and pulled meaning. Viewed god in respect of "architect of the universe /life" but the whole question remains of free will. Again I feel like you are on your something but again paradoxical in that, you have choice but there does seem to be a fate factor.

Note my novel here and fascination with the butterfly effect, fate, destiny, time travel, lucid dreaming /hemisync, astral projection etc. The way you can alter your life with simple changes.

Way the fuck off topic; maybe a perfect discussion for another thread. Bringing it back to the topic; I always like to fuck with it (butterfly effect, time lines, fate/destiny) in a good way. Spontaneously hoping on a plane last minute. Chatting up random stranger or having a flirt with a cute young blonde. Fuck what if... I always want to experience and explore.

My only caution to you; does this belief hold you back? Is it a limiting belief? Self fulfilling prophecy? I definitely believe there is an element of truth here. I just don't second guess planting my flag and really running with my vision/purpose /dreams.

Good chatting gentlemen. Rarely in life do I meet a woman that can get into a discussion like this. Not saying they can't. I just rarely see it. This is coming from a guy who isn't not gun shy nor scared to swing quite often.

I've taken DMT, most hallucinogens. I have explored quite a bit.

Any kind of pre cog is proof of fate, there is only one reality, time past and future is one plane we move through, it does not change due to our viewpoint. Now has happened/will happen, therefore there is no alternative now where things could be different.

No alternative means no free will.

When you examine the matter, the space within which it must exist shrinks and in my mind it will never stop shrinking.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I've taken DMT, most hallucinogens. I have explored quite a bit.

Any kind of pre cog is proof of fate, there is only one reality, time past and future is one plane we move through, it does not change due to our viewpoint. Now has happened/will happen, therefore there is no alternative now where things could be different.

No alternative means no free will.

When you examine the matter, the space within which it must exist shrinks and in my mind it will never stop shrinking.

EG

52 card deck. Pick my card.

Ratio 1:52

Probability

You take necessities required to sustain life, probability gets astronomical. When arguing of God, "universal architect, " that is my conclusion.

Pre cognitive as in, seeing all possible outcomes prior. With knowing wouldn't you change it? If you knew for example a sloot is going to cheat, why marry her?

I have a couple of gurus. Pure jedi mind tricks. The dude can answer questions before asking. It's fucked. He is all into energies, reiki, and seen some shit. The other is chi gung and a bunch of other stuff.

I have had glimpses of it. Periods. Same with lucid dreaming or astral projection bit not like those dudes. They seem to control it.

If there is fate, life is mapped out, why bother? Why approach a beautiful woman or work? Why anything?

I feel like their are forces encapsulating people in different stages. People vibrating at different frequencies. If I left it purely up to fate, that there is no change or ways to change, it would be arbitrary.

I read something on quantum physics. Something being in multiple places St the same time. Touching on time as a particle. Some real mind fucked stuff.

Good chatting bro.

 

[Philo-Publius]

To those married, would you be ok with your wife clubbing or hitting bars at night? Let's say if she is hanging out with her girlfriends for a night of dancing in the clubs, and later the bars, and let's she does this frequently. Lets say that she usually doesn't get home until 3-4 AM. Let's also assume you have kids.

To those not married, assume that you are.

 

[HomeRun916]

Yes.

 

[Don Quixote]

Once every now and then with her friends seems ok, like once a month. But frequently is another story, seems to me staying home with the husband and kids are a bigger priority now in her life than clubbing and partying now. I wouldn't be comfortable with it.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Once every now and then with her friends seems ok, like once a month. But frequently is another story, seems to me staying home with the husband and kids are a bigger priority now in her life than clubbing and partying now. I wouldn't be comfortable with it.

Sounds like you did it right.

The stories I hear and coming up ITT are ludicrous. Dudes at home baby sitting the alpha males child while the wife us out getting bare backed and asshole is dry smashed.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Lulz had!

I remember Dr. House making pot shots at cuckoldry; women raising the alphas child; beta is baby sitter as she is out looking for a real man (in her eyes).

 

[Strange King]

We still talking about this woman getting banged?

 

[B0ZZ]

I wouldn't mind because I'd be doing the same.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

We still talking about this woman getting banged?

Yeah. It is.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I wouldn't mind because I'd be doing the same.

The problem being that women while young and at the peak of their sexual market value will always get attention faster than you. PERIOD!

It changes over time has your market value increases and hers decreases. Window of opportunity is short for women. Sadly, most squander their time.