Would you have a problem with your wife clubbing?

[bigbangspiritbomb]

it's not idea sure, and many laws need to be changed/dissolved. If you can get the goods without marriage, then go for it. There is a pressure on you once you have children because they will look to their parents as committed, and nothing spells out commitment better than marriage.

it's not easy to get around laws either, if you start having that biological call for kids, and NOT married? You have a much tougher time legally when it comes to your kid, essentially, the man has NO rights unless married. The laws are hopeless, and designed by some cunt lawyer.

I won't play the game. Hook ups. No kids. I don't date single mom's. If she is a train wreck I will bj it and be gone.

 

[sub_thug]

It's ironic. If a guy calls out shifty female behavior he is sexist and a misogynist. I shower in male tears shirts are cool. It's a societal thing that I am so put off by.

I know a happily married couple that began by hooking up casually. Women like sex. There is this shame tactics used on men even men here using it on another man which is very female nature like but I digress.

Good for you both. maybeyou guys are amongst that anomaly portion happily married. I just don't see how bringing the state into my affairs as ideal. I pay my taxes. The state has no place in my relationship.

wedding season is around the corner. And I love it. I love what it represents but it usually is short lived. It allows for lots of opportunity and it makes for a great time. With very few exceptions; if not for female declining fertility and short window of sexual market value, female behavior wouldn't ever change.

Meh, there's so much that both sides claim is unfair that I honestly just put it out of my mind. I think the way that I want to think, and I don't apologize for it. If someone wants to call me a sexist, then what do I care? Their opinion means as much to me as what they're going to have for dinner. And besides, life isn't fair, and that fact is never going to change. Play the hand you're dealt, play to your strengths, work to shore up your weaknesses, and you'll typically find yourself as a winner. The last thing I would ever want to be is the fat girl giving all the reasons why I didn't win when I could as easily put in the work and win.

Honestly, we are really happy. It's a nice change of pace in relationships for me, but that's another story. We both really like coming home, seeing each other, making dinner for one another, talking, and just spending time together. We rarely turn on the TV. She's my best friend, and I'm hers. (She's also stunningly beautiful and we have incredible sex, so that's a great plus.) I admire who she is professionally and who I think she would be as a mom. On the weekends, we enjoy doing everything together. Our idea of a night out with friends is going to play laser tag. Before and between games, we will shotgun beers in the parking lot. Everyone's just joking and having a good time. Things are just so good when we are together that I could never imagine trying to be happy with anyone else. I think that's how it is supposed to be.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

Meh, there's so much that both sides claim is unfair that I honestly just put it out of my mind. I think the way that I want to think, and I don't apologize for it. If someone wants to call me a sexist, then what do I care? Their opinion means as much to me as what they're going to have for dinner. And besides, life isn't fair, and that fact is never going to change. Play the hand you're dealt, play to your strengths, work to shore up your weaknesses, and you'll typically find yourself as a winner. The last thing I would ever want to be is the fat girl giving all the reasons why I didn't win when I could as easily put in the work and win.

I like this.

+ 1

Your point on winning is genius. Now a days, there is so much averse to competition and Victory. There is little need to compete with free money, welfare state, victimhood pity party, and the blame game.

Honestly, we are really happy. It's a nice change of pace in relationships for me, but that's another story. We both really like coming home, seeing each other, making dinner for one another, talking, and just spending time together. We rarely turn on the TV. She's my best friend, and I'm hers. (She's also stunningly beautiful and we have incredible sex, so that's a great plus.) I admire who she is professionally and who I think she would be as a mom. On the weekends, we enjoy doing everything together. Our idea of a night out with friends is going to play laser tag. Before and between games, we will shotgun beers in the parking lot. Everyone's just joking and having a good time. Things are just so good when we are together that I could never imagine trying to be happy with anyone else. I think that's how it is supposed to be.

Sounds like you have had a fair share of "interesting " dating experiences prior to this one. It's not pretty. I always try to take away something from every experience and learn. I run into women from the past. It isn't pretty. Usually single mom's, crazy weight gain, and shitty lifestyle choices. I don't wish it upon the past but I thank baby jesus I hit the ejection button.

 

[Bay Area]

Who said mid 30s. I said 20s. Note the use of shame. You sound like a male feminist. Victim of a single mother up bringing.



Why the bar or club right when we can be like T'S at home watching the alphas children as she is out clubbing. Wait wut?



You sound mad? Are you defending a wife out clubbing. I suggest getting your testosterone checked.

I said my wife is home by 8pm. She doesn't club.

 

[sub_thug]

I like this.

+ 1

Your point on winning is genius. Now a days, there is so much averse to competition and Victory. There is little need to compete with free money, welfare state, victimhood pity party, and the blame game.

Sounds like you have had a fair share of "interesting " dating experiences prior to this one. It's not pretty. I always try to take away something from every experience and learn. I run into women from the past. It isn't pretty. Usually single mom's, crazy weight gain, and shitty lifestyle choices. I don't wish it upon the past but I thank baby jesus I hit the ejection button.

I totally feel you on the victimhood thing, the welfare state, and the blame game. I like trying to help my fellow man and all, but damn, men need to be men. Hold yourself accountable, you know? Competition is good, as long as it remains healthy. Push yourself to be better than who you are, and help others to become better than who they are. If everyone is doing that, you'll end up with a team of fucking rockstars. That's the dream.

Haha, yeah, I did. I was really selfish when I was younger, and I know why I did it. At work, I had to be responsible for a lot of people, equipment, and important stuff. The weekends were my time to put myself first, and I did not care who I was using along the way. So I went to bars, picked up girls, banged them, and was gone before the sun came up.

One day, I decided to be serious. We dated for a while, and she successfully made it through a combat deployment and a two-year training course where my job was the most important thing in my life. I felt like it was the logical step to get married, so I did. We ended up really resenting each other. I spent more and more time at work, she threw herself into volunteering and professional organizations, and we just drifted apart until it was over. It was what it was. I forgot the most important stuff then, and I won't forget it now. You just have to love the person you're with, like being around them, and want to spend your lives together. If you do that, then you'll be alright. Otherwise, it's time to move on.

 

[These Two Hands]

My wife wouldn't be allowed to have girlfriends, let alone leave the house.

 

[blaseblah]

I like where you're coming from. Reminds me of this guy:

Never saw that movie. Need to though.

 

[blaseblah]

You can't get a ass or mouth pregnant.

Wait wut?

You're openly admitting you don't get pussy. Brave man.

 

[blaseblah]

Who said mid 30s. I said 20s. Note the use of shame. You sound like a male feminist. Victim of a single mother up bringing.

So you're still a young dude. Cool. Its still your scene. But why are you ranting about the evils of women to a bunch of grown ass men? You think you're still gonna be parking lot pimping 10 years from now? Please.

Why the bar or club right when we can be like T'S at home watching the alphas children as she is out clubbing. Wait wut?

You sound mad? Are you defending a wife out clubbing. I suggest getting your testosterone checked.

Wrong on all counts.

The bitterness is bleeding through your posts. You need to get over whatever female has made you so angry at the world. She's just a girl dude, it doesn't need to ruin the rest of your life.

You're ranting about men who let women influence them, but that's exactly what you're doing. You're obsessed with females to the point it makes you angry.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I said my wife is home by 8pm. She doesn't club.

You still tried playing the shame game. It's a female tactic. It's hypocritical given those casting the stones are bafoons.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

I totally feel you on the victimhood thing, the welfare state, and the blame game. I like trying to help my fellow man and all, but damn, men need to be men. Hold yourself accountable, you know? Competition is good, as long as it remains healthy. Push yourself to be better than who you are, and help others to become better than who they are. If everyone is doing that, you'll end up with a team of fucking rockstars. That's the dream.

I agree but in all fairness look at masculinity and how it is demonized.

To quote the great Chuck P.' Tyler Durden, "We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need."

Single mom households, fathers banished usually under false abuse accusations and financially castrated. Science and data are there with respect to children in single mom households; low socioeconomic status, lower iq, lower education, high probability of teen pregnancy and std (watched mom ride the carousel from youth), higher risk of child and sexual abuse. The list goes on.

I don't have all the answers. As the saying goes it takes 2 to tango. Unfortunately today, women no matter how disgusting their behavior is can do no wrong.

I think David Deida emphasizes on the issue in his book on how to best proceed. Simply, a woman is not my purpose. Setting boundaries is ideal. If you are a rug expect to get walked on.

Haha, yeah, I did. I was really selfish when I was younger, and I know why I did it. At work, I had to be responsible for a lot of people, equipment, and important stuff. The weekends were my time to put myself first, and I did not care who I was using along the way. So I went to bars, picked up girls, banged them, and was gone before the sun came up.

It can be a sport but I always try to take a lesson away. What we think maybe chemistry rarely is after busting. Some are as every bit lost as us guys. I found having a vision for my life is a game changer because it takes higher order and priority over everything.

One day, I decided to be serious. We dated for a while, and she successfully made it through a combat deployment and a two-year training course where my job was the most important thing in my life. I felt like it was the logical step to get married, so I did. We ended up really resenting each other. I spent more and more time at work, she threw herself into volunteering and professional organizations, and we just drifted apart until it was over. It was what it was. I forgot the most important stuff then, and I won't forget it now. You just have to love the person you're with, like being around them, and want to spend your lives together. If you do that, then you'll be alright. Otherwise, it's time to move on.

Good point. Personally, I believe for me to even consider the hypothetical scenario of marriage, the laws must change. The fact men continue to indulge indicates self harm and recklessness.

Imagine; a politician that says it like it is:

1. Women don't work as hard as men

2. They take more Vaca time and work less hours, get pregnant, and many a times don't return to the workforce

3. Women consume more resources, government handouts, welfare, Employment insurance, etc.

4. Men generate more income and are more productive in the workplace

Imagine the politician provided studies, stats, figures etc. The absolute public outcry and female victimhood that would follow?

Imagine if one politician had the balls to be bold?

Spoiler

About to make America great again.

WAR the Donald

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

So you're still a young dude. Cool. Its still your scene. But why are you ranting about the evils of women to a bunch of grown ass men? You think you're still gonna be parking lot pimping 10 years from now? Please.



Wrong on all counts.

The bitterness is bleeding through your posts. You need to get over whatever female has made you so angry at the world. She's just a girl dude, it doesn't need to ruin the rest of your life.

You're ranting about men who let women influence them, but that's exactly what you're doing. You're obsessed with females to the point it makes you angry.

Click spoiler tag.

You mad?

 

[sub_thug]

I agree but in all fairness look at masculinity and how it is demonized.

To quote the great Chuck P.' Tyler Durden, "We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need."

Single mom households, fathers banished usually under false abuse accusations and financially castrated. Science and data are there with respect to children in single mom households; low socioeconomic status, lower iq, lower education, high probability of teen pregnancy and std (watched mom ride the carousel from youth), higher risk of child and sexual abuse. The list goes on.

I don't have all the answers. As the saying goes it takes 2 to tango. Unfortunately today, women no matter how disgusting their behavior is can do no wrong.

I think David Deida emphasizes on the issue in his book on how to best proceed. Simply, a woman is not my purpose. Setting boundaries is ideal. If you are a rug expect to get walked on.



It can be a sport but I always try to take a lesson away. What we think maybe chemistry rarely is after busting. Some are as every bit lost as us guys. I found having a vision for my life is a game changer because it takes higher order and priority over everything.



Good point. Personally, I believe for me to even consider the hypothetical scenario of marriage, the laws must change. The fact men continue to indulge indicates self harm and recklessness.

Imagine; a politician that says it like it is:

1. Women don't work as hard as men

2. They take more Vaca time and work less hours, get pregnant, and many a times don't return to the workforce

3. Women consume more resources, government handouts, welfare, Employment insurance, etc.

4. Men generate more income and are more productive in the workplace

Imagine the politician provided studies, stats, figures etc. The absolute public outcry and female victimhood that would follow?

Imagine if one politician had the balls to be bold?

Spoiler

About to make America great again.

WAR the Donald

The thing is that I don't care if masculinity is demonized or not. It may be in some segments of society, but in others, it is not. To those that demonize it, I simply pay them no mind. At work, my value is based on my organizational leadership skills and being a steely-eyed killer. Literally, a hunter of men. Femininity is shunned in every sense of the word. In my personal life, women have told me that they appreciate the fact that I am a "man's man." The kind of women who prefer the skinny jeans-wearing emotional types are not interested in me at all, and that's cool by me. I'm the guy who wears leather cowboy boots with his jeans and drinks dark beer. There's no shortage of girls that are looking for something like that.

I don't know if I buy the fact that men are banished under false claims of domestic abuse. Maybe that's true, but I'd want to see the numbers before I accept that as truth. And I get that child support sucks. I just have no idea how to fix that problem. I'd need some help from a lawyer or someone who writes legislation.

I think the issue that you're taking goes much further than women and their behavior. I think that we live in a society where no one wants to face the repercussions of their actions. It pertains to everyone equally. If someone is too stupid or lazy to collect all the information that they need to make informed decisions in their life, then that's on them. Want to have kids? Find a way to pay for them. Are you still poor while working two jobs? You clearly missed the boat on education, and now you're reaping the rewards. A job in retail that doesn't even require a college degree can be enough to pay the bills. If it doesn't, it's your job to figure out how to cut costs. Lose the iPhone, turn off the cable, stop drinking Starbucks, and make your own meals instead of eating fast food. I don't know about you, but I am held accountable at work for everything that happens or fails to happen in my purview. If one of my guys were to lose a pair of night vision goggles because they weren't tied down to his helmet, I will be held responsible for not checking his gear. If the guy who manages my property and the books to track our equipment ordering/spending, it doesn't matter that he messed up. When he brought that memo in for me to sign, if I don't double-check his work and sign the memo, that instantly became my problem to deal with. Hell, if I am training some indigenous personnel, trying to gain their trust, I am still responsible for everything that happens. Let me hit you with a great example. We were training some dudes, looking to go on an ambush with them so that they could see that the Americans were there to fight with them. One of the indigenous guys hops up and says he knows when an enemy convoy would be passing through. Cool, we have something to shoot with our new friends to help win the war. Fortunately, we really looked into what this enemy convoy was. It turns that the indigenous guy owned his own business, and the "enemy convoy" that was coming through was one of his competitors. He just wanted us to take them out for him. Had we shot up a bunch of innocent people, the whole village would have been pissed at us, never trusted us again, and we would have had to leave. Complete mission failure. Just because that guy lied to me doesn't mean that it would have been any less my fault. Each of us is responsible for EVERY decision that we make ALL of the time. We, as a society, have lost our sense of accountability. This problem has permeated into every segment of our lives, and the legal system reinforces it. Look no further than drugs and alcohol. If you kill someone while you are impaired, you are LESS likely to be punished to the full extent of the law than someone who was stone-cold sober. Why? Because you were impaired, so you weren't of your best judgment when you did it. If you hurt someone under that condition, then YOU made the decision to drink or get high. YOUR choice had cascading consequences, and YOU are responsible for them.

As for making a sport of getting with women, I get it. But going back to my point about accountability, had I gotten one of those girl pregnant, that would have been MY problem to deal with. Any STDs that I could have contracted would have been my fault, and any angry/jaded/whatever lover that came after me would have been a product of my actions. Had one of those girls secretly had a boyfriend or husband that wanted to come after me, I acknowledge that my actions resulted in the situation. Of course, in all those scenarios, the hypothetical woman in question would have had a role and blame. However, just because she should be held responsible too doesn't mean that I should be held responsible any less. Had one of them gotten pregnant, I would certainly not be able to say, "Well, I used a condom, so I did my part. She should have been on birth control to prevent this from happening, so it's her fault." When we decided to have sex, anything that happens is the fault of both of us, regardless of information possessed at the moment of the decision.

Meh, it's PC culture. We are all responsible for it in some way because we tolerate it. We let the thin-skinned whiners of the world speak for others, throwing around terms like racist, sexist, or whatever else is cool today. That's the appeal of your boy, The Donald. He doesn't tolerate PC culture at all, and there are a lot of people who appreciate that. If PC culture diminishes because of this election cycle, then the people have spoken. We get the standard that we accept.

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

The thing is that I don't care if masculinity is demonized or not. It may be in some segments of society, but in others, it is not. To those that demonize it, I simply pay them no mind. At work, my value is based on my organizational leadership skills and being a steely-eyed killer. Literally, a hunter of men. Femininity is shunned in every sense of the word. In my personal life, women have told me that they appreciate the fact that I am a "man's man." The kind of women who prefer the skinny jeans-wearing emotional types are not interested in me at all, and that's cool by me. I'm the guy who wears leather cowboy boots with his jeans and drinks dark beer. There's no shortage of girls that are looking for something like that.

I think there is an identity crisis amongst the gender. All the jazz about pc, liquid gender, gender neutral, and it simply doesn't work. The common theme is poor lifestyle choices but with the welfare state, with alimony, child support, and free money, things won't change. Recently, a girl aged 22 went on a tangent about "no titles/commitment " bit can't see other people. Currently sleeping with a guy who just got out of prison and doesn't have a job. Tax payers should pepper their Angus. Single mom aspirations await.

I don't know if I buy the fact that men are banished under false claims of domestic abuse. Maybe that's true, but I'd want to see the numbers before I accept that as truth. And I get that child support sucks. I just have no idea how to fix that problem. I'd need some help from a lawyer or someone who writes legislation.

Search Google domestic abuse? False rape accusations, divorce by gender. More than half marriages fail and 2/3 are initiated by women (free money). More than half domestic violence is initiated by women. Women like Helen Smith (phd written men on strike) or feminist Christina Sommers are speaking out on nasty and disgusting female behavior. They are the anomaly. More common is Megan Kelly going on rants about "white privilege." Brb puking!

I think the issue that you're taking goes much further than women and their behavior. I think that we live in a society where no one wants to face the repercussions of their actions. It pertains to everyone equally. If someone is too stupid or lazy to collect all the information that they need to make informed decisions in their life, then that's on them. Want to have kids? Find a way to pay for them.

Very little common s3nse exists. We had Obama Mr man Gina on about women doing the job better then men and in heels. It is delusional as fuck as is the single mom's don't need a man.
With free money of course not but what the fuck do the kids need?

Are you still poor while working two jobs? You clearly missed the boat on education, and now you're reaping the rewards. A job in retail that doesn't even require a college degree can be enough to pay the bills. If it doesn't, it's your job to figure out how to cut costs. Lose the iPhone, turn off the cable, stop drinking Starbucks, and make your own meals instead of eating fast food. I don't know about you, but I am held accountable at work for everything that happens or fails to happen in my purview. If one of my guys were to lose a pair of night vision goggles because they weren't tied down to his helmet, I will be held responsible for not checking his gear. If the guy who manages my property and the books to track our equipment ordering/spending, it doesn't matter that he messed up. When he brought that memo in for me to sign, if I don't double-check his work and sign the memo, that instantly became my problem to deal with. Hell, if I am training some indigenous personnel, trying to gain their trust, I am still responsible for everything that happens. Let me hit you with a great example. We were training some dudes, looking to go on an ambush with them so that they could see that the Americans were there to fight with them. One of the indigenous guys hops up and says he knows when an enemy convoy would be passing through. Cool, we have something to shoot with our new friends to help win the war. Fortunately, we really looked into what this enemy convoy was. It turns that the indigenous guy owned his own business, and the "enemy convoy" that was coming through was one of his competitors. He just wanted us to take them out for him. Had we shot up a bunch of innocent people, the whole village would have been pissed at us, never trusted us again, and we would have had to leave. Complete mission failure. Just because that guy lied to me doesn't mean that it would have been any less my fault. Each of us is responsible for EVERY decision that we make ALL of the time. We, as a society, have lost our sense of accountability. This problem has permeated into every segment of our lives, and the legal system reinforces it. Look no further than drugs and alcohol. If you kill someone while you are impaired, you are LESS likely to be punished to the full extent of the law than someone who was stone-cold sober. Why? Because you were impaired, so you weren't of your best judgment when you did it. If you hurt someone under that condition, then YOU made the decision to drink or get high. YOUR choice had cascading consequences, and YOU are responsible for them.

Up north, women made false accusations of a radio host. Caught colluding and lying under oath. She then paraded out front of court like she was collecting a medal. Absolutely zero accountability. Women on social media casting stones at the accused; where are they now? Apology is in order. No. That would take actual courage.

As for making a sport of getting with women, I get it. But going back to my point about accountability, had I gotten one of those girl pregnant, that would have been MY problem to deal with. Any STDs that I could have contracted would have been my fault, and any angry/jaded/whatever lover that came after me would have been a product of my actions. [/quote ]

I agree. "Your problem to deal with." As in complete self ownership. Not for females. Cases of infidelity and cuckoldry yet court order for child support. No ownership.

If this were survival of the fittest; her genes are weeded out if existence. Offspring too. In a humanistic approach, resources are made available. Retardation or handicap. The poor. Instead the welfare state 8s typical the single mother victimhood state. Since the inception of welfare, poverty has increased. The same with the war on drugs. How do you end something when your job is invested with welfare?

Had one of those girls secretly had a boyfriend or husband that wanted to come after me, I acknowledge that my actions resulted in the situation. Of course, in all those scenarios, the hypothetical woman in question would have had a role and blame. However, just because she should be held responsible too doesn't mean that I should be held responsible any less.

How though? You wouldn't know?

I got approached by a woman for "coffee." We hooked up. I later found out she was married. Listening to her excuse she is a victim despite cheating. I didn't know. Again a tell tale sign of female nature in 2016. All? No. A great majority.

Had one of them gotten pregnant, I would certainly not be able to say, "Well, I used a condom, so I did my part. She should have been on birth control to prevent this from happening, so it's her fault." When we decided to have sex, anything that happens is the fault of both of us, regardless of information possessed at the moment of the decision.

The issue is many lie about the pill or you even being the father. This disgusting behavior should be demonized. No. Instead raising the alpha males baby is celebrated as heroic. Approval of females is so important that "manning up" equals married.

I won't play the game. I wish you luck on it though.

Meh, it's PC culture. We are all responsible for it in some way because we tolerate it. We let the thin-skinned whiners of the world speak for others, throwing around terms like racist, sexist, or whatever else is cool today. That's the appeal of your boy, The Donald. He doesn't tolerate PC culture at all, and there are a lot of people who appreciate that. If PC culture diminishes because of this election cycle, then the people have spoken. We get the standard that we accept.

I am kidding though I would prefer him over the other candidates. A woman president is great. The current candidate not withstanding.

The spoiler tag is not how it always goes. You and I know that. Chat lots of girls. Who do I connect with? Certain behavior is prevalent again and again. No not all are like that but far cry from a commitment if any kind

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Like, baby seals?


Yeah, I'd have a problem with that.

 

[Buff]

You should see the things I do to her when she comes home all fucked up...

 

[pinger]

Never saw that movie. Need to though.

One of my favourites, you won't be disspointed.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Dance. YouTube is free. Spotify and other apps exist. Clubbing for married people is ludicrous especially without significant other. It seems shady.

Going back to boundaries; I don't care what is argued. I simply don't date women that are party girls or are out clubbing every weekend. Ons is about it. I don't marry women that go clubbing. Furthermore I don't commit to attention whores or women who only have guy friends. This isn't up for discussion.

Spoiler

In 2016, spineless cowards amongst the male population are everywhere. Lots of men from single mom households inundated with years of female logic. These women have pretty much crippled their sons in the dating pool by banishing their father from the home and climbing up on the cawk carousel.

Draw a fucking line in the sand. Set boundaries. If she crosses them

....

Spoiler

Lose the skirts girls and grow a pair. Nothing dries up the puss quicker then a girlie man.

In all honesty your post here reeks of insecurity and cowardice far more than a guy who does not give a f*ck if his girl occasionally goes clubbing because he knows she is coming home to f*ck him. Your pos reeks of fear of what you think happens the minute you lose sight. Fear.

 

[steve38]

Even though she is a total homebody, I actively encourage my wife to go out clubbing and partying. It's really the only realistic chance I have to void my marriage and be single and happy once again.

 

[JSN]

anyone who's wife clubs is a cuck. JMO.