Would this Max beat the Dustin that beat him in 2019? And is he a better than in 2019?

[TheGreenMachine]

Charles was peaking around that time too so that's another bad style matchup Dustin would have had to avoid

Peak Charles at 155 is also a bad matchup for Max too. And does anyone really think Max would have been able to hang with Islam like Dustin could?

I'm not the biggest Dustin fan, but he's very underrated for how he did at 155. Stylistically, Max fairs at lot worse against the same competition Dustin fought at 155. This is the same Max we are talking about who lost 3 fights to Volk, a short 145er.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Aldo lost to Volk, Moraes, and Yan at 135 right after Max. Hard to say he was at his peak considering he lost to bantamweights, especially Moraes (even if he should have gotten the split decision).

im just going to stop you here, no he didn't. he stayed at FW and had wins over Stephens and moicano.

the rest of your post is REALLY REALLY silly, did you know Allen was on a 10 fight win streak.... Max fight is not dustins best win, it was against a FW version of max on short notice. Gaethje is a better win. Your post is a mix of delusional and factually incorrect.

 

[Aurelian]

Physically, Max is starting to decline. But skill wise and fight style wise, he's improved by a lot. His defense is better, his footwork is better. He's really grown and matured into a better fighter. This isn't that uncommon, fighters typically improve their skills as they just get older and their bodies aren't what it once was.

 

[Armyhawk]

Maybe im not remembering their second fight well but i recall it being way closer than people acting here. There were just several shots dustin landed that wobbled max. Last round i recall dustin spamming for takedown attempts as max was fresher

 

[snugglecakes]

dustin was prolly just washed,, this was a youth bully elder abuse matchup

when they were both young enough for age to not be a factor... dustin had Max's number

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Well if you ask me this version of Max is nothing like his championship level self who was a lot better in my book. But then I'd be insinuating that Dustin wasn't at his best in this fight. How does this make sense when Dustin fought really well against Islam. I suppose every fight is different.

To answer your question I don't think this version would beat Dustin in 2019

 

[TRVITMVNZ]

I think so. This modern day LW Max is using is all his tools, has great striking speed and now packs some power in his fist

FW champ Max was a pressure volume boxer

 

[fortheo]

Max is more technical and he's better physically than he was in 2019. He definitely isn't as durable as he once was, though.

People often forget that Max took that 2019 fight with Dustin on pretty short notice and didn't have time to bulk up. He came into that fight skinny fat.

 

[TerraRayzing]

Max has, skill wise, leveled up a lot but at the same time, Dustin is nowhere near what he used to he physically.
Didn't he get a fuck ton of injuries from the Islam fight alone?

 

[TheGreenMachine]

im just going to stop you here, no he didn't. he stayed at FW and had wins over Stephens and moicano.

the rest of your post is REALLY REALLY silly, did you know Allen was on a 10 fight win streak.... Max fight is not dustins best win, it was against a FW version of max on short notice. Gaethje is a better win. Your post is a mix of delusional and factually incorrect.

You mean 20-7 Moicano whose lost to every top fighter he's fought? Or 29-22 Jeremy Stephens? Even old Aldo can still beat them because they weren't and never were elite fighters. And Arnold Allen? His best win may be Kattar who is on a 5 losing streak and was frankly overrated at FW. Before that, Allen beat a bunch of guys who are either retired or no longer at FW. He fought Max because FW was pretty barren at the time.

And ok, what's your excuse for Dustin's win against Max when they were both at 145? Yea, exactly...

The only reason you're saying Gaethje is a better win is because Max has a win over Gaethje in an attempt to do some weird MMA math. It's ignoring the fact that Dustin has also beaten multiple other people at 55 who were former Champs such as Conor, Alvarez, or Pettis.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Max was at a big weight disadvantage in their first fight. Today's Max would definitely do much better than 2019, and probably would beat Dustin.

 

[RockyLockridge]

And ok, what's your excuse for Dustin's win against Max when they were both at 145? Yea, exactly...

It was max's first ufc fight? and I never even discredited it.

Gaethje is poriers best win. This is a known fact. any disagreeance makes you look foolish. even in a fight that max took against against porier was a close and competitive fight. a short notice opponent for an interim title as your best win is an even worse look. Im trying to go Dustin justice by saying it's gaethje.

Max is the better fighter, has had a better career, has better wins and was better than dustin at when both were at peak.

 

[TheGreenMachine]

It was max's first ufc fight? and I never even discredited it.

Gaethje is poriers best win. This is a known fact. any disagreeance makes you look foolish. even in a fight that max took against against porier was a close and competitive fight. a short notice opponent for an interim title as your best win is an even worse look. Im trying to go Dustin justice by saying it's gaethje.

Max is the better fighter, has had a better career, has better wins and was better than dustin at when both were at peak.

Yea, beating a guy who never won the LW title is a better win than several people who won undisputed titles lol. That logic is all over the place. And what's more impressive is a 36 year old, past his prime Dustin still managed to drop Max for the second time in his career, end up on top, and still almost finish him in a retirement fight. Max still loses to the Dustin that faced Islam a few years ago. He beat them when both were still younger fighters and when both were peak, no short notice or not.

And no, if you can't beat the guy at both your peaks for an interim title, you're not better than him. We are also talking about a guy who lost to a natural 145er twice in Volk. I'm not even a Dustin fan, but its cope to say otherwise. LW has been stacked ever since Dustin moved up, but FW has statistically been the easier division.

 

[bjjwar]

LOL

Max is for sure a better fighter than dustin overall. He's accomplished WAY more has beaten far better fighters in much more impressive fashion.

You can be the much better fighter and still have a worse career than someone else. Dustin absolutely dismantled Max when both were in their primes. Max fought a guy who had already decided on retiring, is much older and didnt even train hard for this fight.

 

[RockyLockridge]

You can be the much better fighter and still have a worse career than someone else. Dustin absolutely dismantled Max when both were in their primes. Max fought a guy who had already decided on retiring, is much older and didnt even train hard for this fight.

max took that fight up a class, on short notice and lost by inches

 

[Substance Abuse]

You can be the much better fighter and still have a worse career than someone else. Dustin absolutely dismantled Max when both were in their primes. Max fought a guy who had already decided on retiring, is much older and didnt even train hard for this fight.

Your posts the last few days are hilariously bad. Proof positive that account age is worthless, lol.

 

[Tweak896]

We really see at LW, the usual circle of names there that fight each other for most fights and that could create a sort of bubble. Had the UFC let certain generations just keep rematching each other, we probably wouldn't notice the degradation as much. I think both guys were better years back and they've been shielded from the younger fighters. Of course guys like Fiziev, BSD, Gamrot have failed, but outside that they stay very insulated. Part of me wonders if UFC is testing on extending their stars with a new kind of match making.

We'll know soon enough if guys like Dustin retire for real and that generation runs out of fights and retires soon afterwards. Topuria took out FW and then LW even easier. I'm just very sus about the LW matchups the last few years.