Would stipe have beaten prime Alistair Overeem.

Which cain though? Sea level or healthy

I'd take either at this point.

Seeing him lose the way he did to Ngannou was a rough one.

Still, I'm at least glad we got to see him pummel Browne before he retired lmao.
 
I can't see him beating the man who finished brock in the first

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12-18 months later prime overeem got KTFO by bigfoot and Mr. rousey. No, he didn't go from hero to zero in a year and a half at 30-31yo and 2 years BEFORE USADA. PRIME miocic would've smoked him.
 
Would Overeem be clean?
Either that, or we have to let Stipe roid his fucking tits off for it to be even

in a fair fight without cheating, (or both cheating equally) I think Stipe still takes it
 
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12-18 months later prime overeem got KTFO by bigfoot and Mr. rousey. No, he didn't go from hero to zero in a year and a half at 30-31yo and 2 years BEFORE USADA. PRIME miocic would've smoked him.

He was crushing Bigfoot before getting KO'd, but yeah that Browne one was a big L. Keep in mind Overeem had a 2 year layoff prior to both of those fights, where I think we all know what happened.

Washed Overeem fought a prime Miocic and was still able to drop him before his glass chin faltered.
 
He was crushing Bigfoot before getting KO'd, but yeah that Browne one was a big L. Keep in mind Overeem had a 2 year layoff prior to both of those fights, where I think we all know what happened.

Washed Overeem fought a prime Miocic and was still able to drop him before his glass chin faltered.

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I'd take either at this point.

Seeing him lose the way he did to Ngannou was a rough one.

Still, I'm at least glad we got to see him pummel Browne before he retired lmao.
agreed, hes done.

Cain who beat Bork was a monster. Not sure AKA did to him, but its a shame
 
Stipe simply doesn't have the level of wins that Fedor had.

Its not a matter of disrespect, its just the facts.

Stipe is a boss, but he's fighting in a weak division, where his best win is against a LHW.
you don't think it's disrespectful to minimize DC as a lhw? or to not count werdum as a top win? or to speculate on how he would do against ubereem?

how would any hw do against ubereem?

stipe's top wins are debatably comparable with fedor's. he has as many or more top 5 wins.
 
you don't think it's disrespectful to minimize DC as a lhw? or to not count werdum as a top win? or to speculate on how he would do against ubereem?

how would any hw do against ubereem?

stipe's top wins are debatably comparable with fedor's. he has as many or more top 5 wins.

Cormier was a LHW, who lost to the LHW twice... then moved up and beat Stipe.

Werdum is a good win, never said he wasn't.

I still don't think he beats a prime Ubereem.
 
Cormier was a LHW, who lost to the LHW twice... then moved up and beat Stipe.

Werdum is a good win, never said he wasn't.

I still don't think he beats a prime Ubereem.
he also was a hw, who has dominant wins against hw's like barnett, bigfoot (coming off finishing fedor), mir, nelson.

werdum should be considered an elite win...

does fedor beat a prime ubereem?
 
Well Ubereem can't be compared to other HW's. No neck, traps and lats so big you can see them from front. The Voice: "You could screen a movie on the back of his neck!"

Had a run of mayhem for a few years. Poor Rogers, Brock, Fujita and Duffee. Lambs. Hari floored, then K-1 HW GP Champ. Hari was the only guy to stop Ubereem, but he was not out.
 
The same Reem who got knocked out by Browne and Bigfoot in fights after? Yes, Yes I do think Stipe could have.
 
Yes, but if you gave Stipe access to horsemeat, he would slaughter Ubereem.
 
I have no doubts he would. People think Prime Reem was some indestructable force. He got KO'd by Browne, Silva, Rothwell. He was able to build a big record cause he was fighting low competition in Japan
low competition in Japan like when he own the K1 GP and Strikeforce HW title?
 
It's hard to imagine Ubereem losing to anyone.

But his most impressive fight was against diverticulitis Brock Lesnar who really was just showing up to headline one last time and collect a fat paycheck (like Cain did vs Ngannou)

aka brock may have ended up making him look way better than what he actually was.
I think the Brett Rogers fight was even better. He made him look like a little boy and Rogers was a scary dude back then. The difference in strength and power and sheer skill was a thing to behold.

To my mind Ubereem was the closest to an invincible fighter we've seen so far.
 
I think the Brett Rogers fight was even better. He made him look like a little boy and Rogers was a scary dude back then. The difference in strength and power and sheer skill was a thing to behold.

To my mind Ubereem was the closest to an invincible fighter we've seen so far.
true but in hindsight rogers wasn't very good and had awful balance that was exploited by both fedor and overeem and others after. but that fight was a mauling. and ubereem was a scary dude capable of beating anyone ever for sure.

impossible to call any version of reem invincible though since we've seen him vulnerable too many times. but certainly capable of beating anyone and maybe even favorite.
 
Is struve could tko stipe.. prime reem could've as well. Stop it lol.

That wasn't prime Stipe buddy, the man didn't come into his own until 3 years after the Struve fight. And if we're gonna go by that, if Sergei, Rothwell, Browne, Bigfoot and how many others could KO Reem, Stipe could as well. Stop it lol
 
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