Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[MichiganMMA1978]

I think they were following them around jeering so people would be aware they were around. Not sure if that constitutes hindering or just legal protesting.

If that was their purpose, to make illegals aware ice was coming, then it would most likely be a hindering charge. I just don’t see or personally agree with a felony charge. But I’m not a judge.
So I’ll just say that was the wrong thing to do, they (Ice) should not have done that.

 

[lsa]

 

[Natural Order]

She definitely accelerated but I don't think her intention was to hit the officer and getting glanced by a car speeding away is not the same as being mowed down directly. Her intention was to flee. Even if he'd put himself in the situation and someone wants to excuse the first shot I don't think how someone can do the mental gymnastics to justify the subsequent shots made through the side window.

Intention means nothing in a matter of 2 seconds. Nobody is gauging intention in that timeframe.

Her adrenaline and anti-authority stupidity, combined with low IQ ICE agent not following protocol created a tragic event.

 

[oldshadow]

You can lay a large part of this at the feet of the governor, the mayor and city officials that do nothing but encourage illegal interference with ICE that is enforcing the law. Legal protests are fine but they are allowing and even encouraging illegal interference. So ICE is forced to handle it themselves.

If they dont want to cooperate with the feds then the feds should refuse all cooperation with the locals including any help with other crime.

 

[Natural Order]

If she intended to hit him, why torque the wheel in the exact opposite direction he was standing?

Why do you guys keep talking about intent? As if anybody is gauging intent in that timeframe. LOL @ analyzing wheel directions as a vehicle is accelerating toward you.

Man, some of you don't have very good critical thinking skills.

Both parties here were egregiously in error, resulting in the tragic death of the woman.

 

[LMP]

Is that what I said, dummy?

You're inability to look at the situation properly is showing.

I didn't say you did say that my guy. Earlier in the thread I made it clear most of my push back is against the federal governments narrative that she tried to run him over. Which is pretty clear that wasn't her intention. That to my is the biggest issue. Framing her as a domestic terrorist is insane, defending that narrative is bullying. So to me if she bumped him or not isn't even an issue. He still acted beyond anything that could be considered reasonable force or within public safety. As a fact I would argue that he created way more risk by shooting the driver. By ICE acting as traffic enforcement here they created a situation and escalated the situation beyond what is reasonable here.

 

[Natural Order]

Just so the illiterate dummies on here are clear.....the root of this tragedy is on ICE. Full stop.

However, the stupid actions and thought process of the liberal white woman attributed to her own demise. And it's these actions that will unfortunately provide the legal grounds to clear this fucktard agent.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I personally didnt see these clear measures.


Ill take a look for unedited clips tomorrow honestly. But you can aknowledge " reckless driving "... which in my opinion could be taken as a viewed as a threat or risk.

I recommend looking at multiple clips from. Different angles. She backs away, cuts her wheels, and appears to be trying her best, while under high stress, to avoid the agent who shot her.

No. By my logic. Anyone who accelerates to flee with someone in front of their vehicle can be easily be viewed as a potentential threat

Well that wasn't the only situation you said you felt justified shooting fleeing persons. If you're amending that then cool, I was responding to the other part of your statement.

"Move don't shoot" policies are best practice because 1) it's common sense to prioritize moving out of harms way and 2) it allows officer to determine intent from a safer position.

There are scenarios where you can justify someone fleeing. This does not show signs of such incidents in my opinion.

Indeed. Its why running is a terrible decision

Untrained and uninformed people make bad decisions under stress. Thats why professionals must be capable and responsible enough to make the right decisions in those situations

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

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[Croaker]

David Koresh had a sex change and became a lib? wao

 

[Natural Order]

I didn't say you did say that my guy. Earlier in the thread I made it clear most of my push back is against the federal governments narrative that she tried to run him over. Which is pretty clear that wasn't her intention. That to my is the biggest issue. Framing her as a domestic terrorist is insane, defending that narrative is bullying. So to me if she bumped him or not isn't even an issue. He still acted beyond anything that could be considered reasonable force or within public safety. As a fact I would argue that he created way more risk by shooting the driver. By ICE acting as traffic enforcement here they created a situation and escalated the situation beyond what is reasonable here.

No arguments about the hyperbole from the government in an attempt to defend their own incompetence. This is gross and concerning stuff, and Americans should be rightfully worried.

It should be a lesson to any citizen that unless they're looking to catch a stray, just fucking do what the police are asking. It's really not hard. This white woman from Minnesota wasn't going to be rounded up and shipped to CECOT ffs. Her own amplitude of emotion and irrational behaviour contributed to the outcome, unfortunately.

But as I've repeated three times now, the root of this entire sequence of escalation is as a result of improper protocol and action on the part of ICE.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Here’s the original


Doesn’t change the fact

It doesn't change the fact but it makes it appear the officer had less time to react and was hit with more energy than he actually was. Now that you realize the video was manipulated to deceive are you still going to use that source for factual information?

 

[Scott Stapp]

Why do you guys keep talking about intent? As if anybody is gauging intent in that timeframe. LOL @ analyzing wheel directions as a vehicle is accelerating toward you.

Man, some of you don't have very good critical thinking skills.

Both parties here were egregiously in error, resulting in the tragic death of the woman.

And which party put the public at greater risk? The one who left an unattended SUV rolling down the street that destroyed someone else's vehicle? It's not just the shooting. It's what happens following it.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

And did you spend even one minute trying to verify if it's true or not before regurgitating it?

Local officials said the woman was acting as a legal observer during protests against US President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown.

Legal observers are usually volunteers who attend protests to monitor interactions between law enforcement and demonstrators, documenting any confrontations or potential legal violations.

Who was Renee Nicole Good, the woman killed in ICE Minneapolis shooting?

Trump administration officials allege the shooting victim was interfering with an ICE agent's work.

www.aljazeera.com

She was a prize-winning poet and a hobby guitarist, who was there as a legal observer of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) activities, city leaders have said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1jepdjy256o.amp

 

[USA!USA!]

Both parties here were egregiously in error, resulting in the tragic death of the woman.

This is 100% true. She should not have done that. It was also murder.

She was an idiot and doing idiotic things. I personally don't think she was trying to hit them, but its only my opinion. She still undoubtedly was being an absolute idiot for even putting herself and ICE in that position.

She got murdered for it.

 

[Natural Order]

And which party put the public at greater risk? The one who left an unattended SUV rolling down the street that destroyed someone else's vehicle? It's not just the shooting. It's what happens following it.

No argument here. Her vehicle could have gone up on the sidewalk and taken out any number of people. Then again, her vehicle wouldn't have been moving had she been in a rational frame of mind.

 

[kuf]

How can a country that is undoubtedly the most powerful nation that has ever existed manage to eat itself from the inside like this. Look at all those weaklings gleefully denying this cold blooded murder by gestapo that have been given guns, balaclavas and complete carte blanche to inflict violence on the population.

Ten different points of view and they still type with their sausauge fingers about steering wheel angles and the dangers of heavy vehicles. Their messiah openly lying about a hospitalized pig, even though we all saw it waddling around completely unharmed. He could request to shit in your mouth and you'd do your best to open wide. A fucking TV persona has made you this subservient.

Utterly pathetic, amazing really.

 

[chardog]

It doesn't change the fact but it makes it appear the officer had less time to react and was hit with more energy than he actually was. Now that you realize the video was manipulated to deceive are you still going to use that source for factual information?

I posted the original, it doesnt change anything, and the manipulation was zooming in....

it may not have been her intention to hit the agent with a vehicle, but she did and she's gone.

worlds smallest violin

 

[Deaths Head]

She definitely accelerated but I don't think her intention was to hit the officer and getting glanced by a car speeding away is not the same as being mowed down directly. Her intention was to flee. Even if he'd put himself in the situation and someone wants to excuse the first shot I don't think how someone can do the mental gymnastics to justify the subsequent shots made through the side window.

She accelerated to get away from the guy on the side reaching in her window she probably didn’t even notice who was in front on the side or whatever she clearly is trying to go a round the other vehicle while escaping being kidnapped .

I don’t think the ones defending this realize even real law enforcement get sued for kidnapping charges / false imprisonment on false arrests and citizens have a right to flee from anyone who don’t identify themselves and unlawfully attack .

 

[kflo]

No argument here. Her vehicle could have gone up on the sidewalk and taken out any number of people. Then again, her vehicle wouldn't have been moving had she been in a rational frame of mind.

or had they not immediately escalated the situation by trying to immediately remove her from her vehicle through force. i don't know wtf they were doing. just hyper aggression because they were pissed off, instead of doing their job professionally. they all contributed to this murder.