Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

[Limbo Pete]

That wasn't a life and death situation

Which they know. It's just lies and more lies, gaslighting, etc. They care about who, not what. She was shot to prevent her from leaving. I mean, think about that.

 

[PBAC]

Not just normal, correct. There are people, and lot of people, that think she _should_ have been killed.

So basically Americans lack the grey matter to cope with civil disputes that every civ on earth deals with from Europe to China. I know of no other civilized country where actions like this are normalised. Not even Nazi Germany was dumb enough to approach people like this. It's not even suppresionalist more like handing guns out to cave men.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Which they know. It's just lies and more lies, gaslighting, etc. They care about who, not what. She was shot to prevent her from leaving. I mean, think about that.

If only Saint Charlie Kirk was still alive to justify this shooting and his supporters could say he's practicing politics the right way. Hahahaha.

 

[BoomStronk]

You do know that the tires were on ice and weren't getting traction well, right?
Speaking as someone that has done a lot of icey-road driving they can have traction, and then they don't, then they do, and then they don't.

This is so true. That's why its always best ib wintry conditions where traction js uncertain, to execute the driver as they drive past you .

No it's not 'going to get ugly.'
This will be completely forgotten in 36 more hours, if that.

Brrilliant analysis. As the thousandth post on a sherdog mega thread made onky one day ago.

These are the kinds of calls that show how astute your overall analysis is. Totally forgotten in t minus 30 hours or so, eh?

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Which they know. It's just lies and more lies, gaslighting, etc. They care about who, not what. She was shot to prevent her from leaving. I mean, think about that.

It's a Death Cult. That's all.
Nothing is serious until Trump says
Nothing is has to be legal until Trump says
They are self aware pieces of shit.
Epstein, Venezuela now this. They can't stop lying out of ignorance
Iit's not democrats vs Republican
It's everyone against maga. That fucking death cult.

 

[Squarechoke]

You do know that the tires were on ice and weren't getting traction well, right?
Speaking as someone that has done a lot of icey-road driving they can have traction, and then they don't, then they do, and then they don't.

And it wouldn't have been a life and death situation if she wasn't an Anti-ICE activist blocking traffic, complied with commands given by law enforcement, not tried to evade arrest which put an officer's life in danger.... and we know what happened next.

She's a victim of her own stupid choices.

My point was that it wasn't even a life and death situation given the distance and her trajectory even under optimal acceleration. I've been in a traffic situation way more dangerous than that (with speed that wouldn't just hurt) so I know what that's like to experience, and I quickly helped another person rather than panic for myself. There's no valid excuse for an officer that should have training in stressful decision-making in that situation.

And we see more of this dumb rhetoric where the argument is that if she didn't do something stupid it wouldn't have happened. Her actions were stupid and wrong but weren't something that warranted a death sentence, nor was it reasonabe to shoot like that from the officer's perspective (especially since he fired from the side, which is in no way about defense). That's why it's big international news, since most that aren't partisan to it can see that it's a huge error.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Where's @nhbbear when you need him?

 

[DragRacer]

The officer that shot the driver wasn’t the officer at the DS window, it was another officer that was in front of the vehicle when the driver hit the gas trying to flee.
Watch it in slow-mo.

Shot 1 was fired when the vehicle was accelerating towards the officer, shots 2 and 3 were fired as the officer moved out of the path of the vehicle.


FWIW…looking at this objectively-

I personally wouldn’t have shot her even though this is most likely legally justified. I’m not LE but armed most of the time in public yet don’t have it in me to pull the trigger on someone unless there’s just no other way. Just GTFO the way and let the troops go chase her dumb ass down. She won’t get far, hoping she doesn’t run anybody else over in the panic flee.

This doofus definitely had it coming, but she should be in a jail cell right now and not the morgue IMO.

Well the shooter was at the driver-side window with the vehicle turning away from him. He was not jumping out of the path as he was firing.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Let me fucking guess
Still nothing on the fucking Epstein flea
But they got enough fucking time
For maduro and now this shit
What in the actual fuck guys

How cowardly are you. I'm talking to maga

 

[Anewt]

Very possible driver was focused on the person trying to get into her car/open her door and didn't even see the agent that was more in front of the car.

Regardless, the fact that she got shot through the side window and not from the front basically makes self-defense laughable and this is in essence a murder. But now that the legal system has sunk to banana republic levels, really hard to tell what the outcome of this will be since folks need to know what people's political affiliations are in order to render a "judgment" in America these days.

Ummm...

Isnt the bullet hole in the windscreen?

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Ummm...

Isnt the bullet hole in the windscreen?

Looks to me she got shot from the side not the front. Don't know where the bullet holes are and if windshield hit doesnt mean it was from front side. But if I'm wrong I'm wrong.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

WHERE'S THE FUCKING EPSTEIN LIST GUYS
I'VE HEARD ENOUGH BULLSHIT ABOUT OTHER THINGS
DON'T PRETEND YOU CARE ABOUT LAWS
UNTIL THE LIST IS HERE

 

[Seano]

Looks to me she got shot from the side not the front. Don't know where the bullet holes are and if windshield hit doesnt mean it was from front side. But if I'm wrong I'm wrong.

From the front. I'd guess thats why the bullet hole was in the windshield and not the side window, but hey-- I'm no scientist.



Really unfortunate shit like this is happening. The radical left convincing people that obstructing law enforcement is fun and games are to blame for this.

 

[Seano]

WHERE'S THE FUCKING EPSTEIN LIST GUYS
I'VE HEARD ENOUGH BULLSHIT ABOUT OTHER THINGS
DON'T PRETEND YOU CARE ABOUT LAWS
UNTIL THE LIST IS HERE

We have a gigantic thread on the Epstein list. Post about it there.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Do not use the law as a justification for her dying if you are a trump supporter

WHERE IS THE EPSTEIN LIST
THE LAW SAYS IT SHOULD BE OUT

 

[Seano]

WHERE'S THE EPSTEIN LIST

Enough with the thread derail already.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

From the front. I'd guess thats why the bullet hole was in the windshield and not the side window, but hey-- I'm no scientist.



Really unfortunate shit like this is happening. The radical left convincing people that obstructing law enforcement is fun and games are to blame for this.

That does look like it's diagonally through the front. Might give him some hope of this would ever go to trial. Doesn't look like the path of the vehicle would hit him which doesn't help him but definitely more reasonable that from the side. I don't know if the guy yanking at the door is acting lawfully, if not, I assume that convolutes things further

 

[Hellowhosthat]

That does look like it's diagonally through the front. Might give him some hope of this would ever go to trial. Doesn't look like the path of the vehicle would hit him which doesn't help him but definitely more reasonable that from the side. I don't know if the guy yanking at the door is acting lawfully, if not, I assume that convolutes things further

We can say with 100% certainly that the path of the vehicle wasn't going to hit him because the car did not stop and did not hit him.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

We can say with 100% certainly that the path of the vehicle wasn't going to hit him because the car did not stop and did not hit him.

Can't dispute that though a lawyer will say the shooter didn't know that at the split second of time

 

[GearSolidMetal]

My point was that it wasn't even a life and death situation given the distance and her trajectory even under optimal acceleration.

Captain Hindsight

I've been in a traffic situation way more dangerous than that (with speed that wouldn't just hurt) so I know what that's like to experience, and I quickly helped another person rather than panic for myself. There's no valid excuse for an officer that should have training in stressful decision-making in that situation.

Since he was in the direct path of the vehicle, it was his call to make in the heat of the moment.

And we see more of this dumb rhetoric where the argument is that if she didn't do something stupid it wouldn't have happened. Her actions were stupid and wrong but weren't something that warranted a death sentence, nor was it reasonabe to shoot like that from the officer's perspective (especially since he fired from the side, which is in no way about defense). That's why it's big international news, since most that aren't partisan to it can see that it's a huge error.

Her actions were stupid, wrong....and criminal.
*Blocking the road was preventing the officers from performing their duties, which was the point.
*Disobeying direct orders from an officer.
*Attempt to flee the scene.

This isn't the cleanest shoot ever, but prosecutors typically prefer to take cases when they're confident they'll win, and the issue is making a convincing case to 12 jurors that must agree to declare the defendant guilty even after the defense's arguments and final argument, and obviously they'd claim self-defense.