Crime Woman in Minneapolis Executed by ICE Officers; White House Reflexively Hand Waves Murder

No idea how to post images. First link is a still from the video while the vehicle is reversing clearly showing the officer in front of the vehicle.

Second link shows the officer in front of the vehicle in firing position while the car is accelerating toward him.



Don't you think that sidestepping a vehicle that is coming at you at 1 mph makes a lot more sense than trying to stand your ground and pulling your gun? That is what he did and she still just drove around him. What is the point of claiming she was going to hit the officer if his gun shots didn't stop her or prevent her from just driving around him?
 
I can make a couple general points due to my municipal/county policing experience and that's the average federal police officer or agent receives on average far less training than the average city cop or sheriff deputy. For example in my state POST requires a minimum of 664 hours of training and my department forced us to do nearly 8 months worth plus an additional four months of on the street training.

Federal training is 12-20 weeks depending on the specific agency(e.g. FBI, US Marshalls, Ice, etc). I quickly looked up training for ICE and it's 13 weeks. They do 12 weeks of standard FLETC training and an extra week of whatever else. To put this in perspective this is nearly 1/3 of the training I had to do a couple decades ago. If I heard correctly my old department tacked on a couple additional weeks on top of that.

Many municipal departments, including the one I worked in had it explicitly stated in the general orders that officers were not to place themselves in the way of fleeing vehicles as a pretext for self defense to use lethal force. Federal agents likely have much looser standards and only have to abide by the case law like Graham v Connor and Tennessee v Garner. I believe there are a couple newer cases (Barnes v Felix) that just recently came through. Here the SCOTUS found even the officer jumping in front of the car to prevent it from escaping, ie intentionally placing himself in harm's way, was still justified use of lethal force.


I personally disagree with such an approach but if we're talking about pure legality chances are the ICE agent was fully protected in his use of force.
Thanks. Appreciate the insight.
 
Answer this question honestly please. If she was trying to run him over why would she cut the wheel all the way to the right? Seems like she would have steered into him while accelerating at full speed if that was her intent.

Probably because she was trying to go down the street instead of into the buildings on the side of the road?

My guess is she wasn't aiming at the officer but she wasn't going to be all that bothered if she hit him.
 
Don't you think that sidestepping a vehicle that is coming at you at 1 mph makes a lot more sense than trying to stand your ground and pulling your gun? That is what he did and she still just drove around him. What is the point of claiming she was going to hit the officer if his gun shots didn't stop her or prevent her from just driving around him?
Looks to me like he drew when she started reversing, and when she accelerated aggressively toward him he opened fire.

Again, this comes back to hindsight vs the moment.

A tragic and unnecessary loss of life, but not something the officer is ethically or legally liable for in my opinion.
 
Ashli Babbitt had no weapons that would have hurt that 6'2" - 220lb cop with a Glock. WTF are you babbling about?

Are you upset that a Left Cult moron tried to murder a Federal LEO and got killed trying? Cry for us.

Dude she very obviously didn't try and murder the agent. I'm assuming you're trolling because if you work in nuclear power then you must be intelligent enough to know this unless you're the real life Homer Simpson.
 
Many municipal departments, including the one I worked in had it explicitly stated in the general orders that officers were not to place themselves in the way of fleeing vehicles as a pretext for self defense to use lethal force.

The common sense goes both ways. Don't stand in front of a vehicle that's driving at you, but also don't drive at someone who's pointing a loaded gun at you.
 
No idea how to post images. First link is a still from the video while the vehicle is reversing clearly showing the officer in front of the vehicle.

Second link shows the officer in front of the vehicle in firing position while the car is accelerating toward him.



We have dozens of actual video of the whole thing with multiple eye-witness testimony.

I'd suggest giving a look at those as they obviously show a bit more context than a still image.
 
Anyone still justifying this clearly should never own a gun, because you're fucking stupid and are justifying the murder of an innocent person.

Anyone still saying she was trying to run him over is again, dumb as fuck, as clear BY THE HIGH DEFINITION VIDEO GOING AROUND.

Anyone still supporting her death just has to say that, to them, life is MAGA vs Everyone else, and everyone else are evil enemies who need to die, or some other moronic logic.
 
Is it ridiculous for the officers in front of the car to think hes being run over?

Remember, he has a split second to decide

If the officer had any training (or common sense) he would be aware that shooting someone driving a car will not stop the car as evidenced by the fact that the car didn't stop and continued in motion and crashed into another car. If the guy's life was genuinely in danger he would be dead because of stupid decision making.
 
Shes the white female George Floyd and ironically it's happened again in Minneapolis. The protesters were just looking for a reason to riot and this validates them. If the woman was such a mother, why wasn't she at home with the kids instead of being a fucking idiot?
 
We have dozens of actual video of the whole thing with multiple eye-witness testimony.

I'd suggest giving a look at those as they obviously show a bit more context than a still image.
You said the officer wasn’t in front of the vehicle. The images clearly show he was.
 
Shes the white female George Floyd and ironically it's happened again in Minneapolis. The protesters were just looking for a reason to riot and this validates them. If the woman was such a mother, why wasn't she at home with the kids instead of being a fucking idiot?

Why did woman leave house.

The big questions being asked right here on Sherdog.
 
Do you think its physically possible to make that shot while not standing in front of the vehicle?
Do you think this monday-morning quarterbacking about these small details like the exact position of the officer's body to the vehicle when he fired the shot... While the vehicle is accelerating and the officer is trying GTFO of the way... holds any significance?
Think carefully before you respond with something stupid.
Take your own advice when you answer this -
What argument have you leftists made that it was not reasonable for the officer to assume his life was in danger, and therefore he should be charged with 3rd degree murder?
 
Looks to me like he drew when she started reversing, and when she accelerated aggressively toward him he opened fire.

Again, this comes back to hindsight vs the moment.

A tragic and unnecessary loss of life, but not something the officer is ethically or legally liable for in my opinion.

What did the shooting accomplish? She drove around him even when shot.
 
Not sure if the audio version was posted itt, but the msm has been censoring it for some reason:



Can anyone seriously watch this recording with the sound and tell me they think it was a justified shoot?

Lady tells them to go around. Agents aggressively move on her car, lady panics and tries to flee, agents fucking shoot her.

Absolute third world bullshit that I would expect to see in a country like Honduras and the fact that it happened in America is an utter embarrassment and the fact that people on here are trying to defend it is a downright joke.
 
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