Will you consider Islam the GOAT LW if he beats Arman and sets the LW title defence record?

[smalliebiggs]

The first title fight with Volkanovski was already set in stone no matter of the outcome between Makhachev vs Oliveira. The 2nd time wasn’t even Makhachevs fault, it was all Oliveiras idiotic training practices that caused him to lose that title shot and stupid matchmaking by the UFC, Oliveira should have never gotten the rematch anyway and it should’ve been Justin Gaethje. So there was no ducking on Makhachevs end.

good points. also, nobody took the title from Olives because he got stripped because he misses weight so often so nobody owes him a rematch

 

[omawho402]

This is Wikipedia nonsense.

Application > Skillset

After Islam beats Arman it will be undeniable that he is superior than Khabib.

 

[MarioLemieux]

After Islam beats Arman it will be undeniable that he is superior than Khabib.

Islam even denies he's as good as Khabib.

 

[HHJ]

After Islam beats Arman it will be undeniable that he is superior than Khabib.

He already beat Arman lol

 

[NoSmilez]

You need to give Islam his due if he keeps competing and winning. There is no point elevating Khabib to some Rickson status.

 

[Superzorro]

Not only that, Khabib completely destroyed everyone. Islam not only got KO'ed, but arguably even lost to a guy in the lower division and went to deep waters with Poirier. Khabib made Poirier look like it was his first fight.

He could win 50 straight, he can never pass Khabib who was just a much better fighter.

There’s being a better fighter and then there’s being a greater fighter. For the simple fact that we’ll never see them in the cage against each other, the argument that Khabib is better will always be more subjective. But if one has higher stats than the other, its objective who is greater.

Also, sure Khabib had an easier time with Poirier. But he also beat him with his biggest weakness. It could be argued that by out striking Poirier (which is his strength), Islam showed a more complete skill set.

 

[smalliebiggs]

Islam can be the GOAT, Khabib is the BOAT.

BOAT > GOAT

Islam is GOAT on a BOAT, motherfucker

 

[Superzorro]

why? Because he beat a 5ft 6 guy in a lower weight class?

Who do you think would win in a fight between Volkanovski and McGregor? We already saw Oliviera vs Gaethje and Poirier. RDA was picking up a lot of steam at the time that Khabib beat him though, I will admit.

 

[omawho402]

He already beat Arman lol

Again

 

[omawho402]

Islam even denies he's as good as Khabib.

Just Islam being humble. But I can't convince you Khabib fans, even if the man beats the next 5 fights you will find some excuse.

 

[Rektkid]

If he wins a few more fights then surely Islam has to be right up there. His performance against Dustin wasn't great but the transition from striking to grappling to clinching to boxing is super clean. He is super skilled and has elite fight IQ too. A true martial artist.

 

[MarioLemieux]

Just Islam being humble. But I can't convince you Khabib fans, even if the man beats the next 5 fights you will find some excuse.

Is coach Javier being humble when he says Khabib handles Islam as well?

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Who do you think would win in a fight between Volkanovski and McGregor? We already saw Oliviera vs Gaethje and Poirier. RDA was picking up a lot of steam at the time that Khabib beat him though, I will admit.

Yeah, exactly. I think people who are super pro Khabib really overrate McGregor, Gaethje and Diamond. Gaethje is a great contender but not some all time great. McGregor is the same thing at LW. I like Dustin, but he's not as good as Do-Bronx.

Conversely, the one thing I actually put on Khabib's resume that I think puts him above everyone is the RDA win. I guess it happened before it was cool to like Khabib (or RDA) so no one cared, but RDA is the best fighter he beat.

Once you get past those four though its a pretty big drop to Barboza - and a big drop after Barboza if I can recall. Khabib just did not fight that many great guys.

 

[VinceArch]

No
He barely beat a fw volk the first fight and hasn’t shown me shit

Remember, you aren't the one who decides who is LW GOAT. Pick Cody fucking Pfister as your GOAT at 155.

 

[JustBleed69]

No, but if he does beat someone else really good at lightweight after that then I will say he is the lightweight goat. Problem is I don't know which opponent that would even be.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

No, but if he does beat someone else really good at lightweight after that then I will say he is the lightweight goat. Problem is I don't know which opponent that would even be.

The best LW he can fight is probably his teammate, unfortunately.

 

[markg171]

It's obviously Islam unless you're simply doing the dumb fucking things Khabib fans always do which is judge him based on potential instead of his actual results and resume.

I have my obviously nitpicks about Islam defending against FWs and short notice opponents, but at the end of the day he'll have the better resume and that's all that actually matters.

 

[ejazahmednit]

Yes he should

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Probably not

 

[omawho402]

Is coach Javier being humble when he says Khabib handles Islam as well?

Yes. Everyone kowtows to Khabib. Practice is practice, in a real fight Khabib can't take Islam down and is forced to strike and gets knocked out.