Will Gillespie be Super-Khabib's kryptonite?

You seriously know nothing and are showing it. Every gym has dozens of guys who would school him LMAO? He lost on points to Jordan Burroughs his senior year. Burroughs won gold in the 2012 olympics.

No offense, but you ruin any credibility when you make stupid hyperbolic statements. Khabib mostly trains at AKA but dismissing Gregor's wrestling like you just did does nothing but make you look dumb. I'm not saying that to be a dick, it really does.
khabib mostly trains in aka ? in his 3k village there is over 20 world champions LOL. you literally could pick any wrestling gym in makhachkala and have guys in there that would school gregor with ease. 3 millions ppl are winning over 20-30% of the medals in last mens world championships. yeah ill take my bet with the random gyms.
 
khabib mostly trains in aka ? in his 3k village there is over 20 world champions LOL. you literally could pick any wrestling gym in makhachkala and have guys in there that would school gregor with ease. 3 millions ppl are winning over 20-30% of the medals in last mens world championships. yeah ill take my bet with the random gyms.

Who are these 20 world champs in this 3k village?

In the 2018 world championships, Russia (that's ALL of Russia LMAO, not just Dagestan which is a tiny corner of Russia) had 4 world champs in freestyle, the US had 3. Greco isn't as applicable to MMA at all since you can't attack the legs.

So...you are again talking out your ass.
 
khabib mostly trains in aka ? in his 3k village there is over 20 world champions LOL. you literally could pick any wrestling gym in makhachkala and have guys in there that would school gregor with ease. 3 millions ppl are winning over 20-30% of the medals in last mens world championships. yeah ill take my bet with the random gyms.

I don’t even know what you’re trying to say... as the poster mentioned above, stop talking out of your ass. The US is neck and neck with Russia in freestyle wrestling right now. The entire country of Russia barely beat the US this last year at Worlds. And again, that is in a style that most of our guys don’t grow up wrestling. How do you think those Russians would look in folkstyle matches against our top guys?
 
Who are these 20 world champs in this 3k village?

In the 2018 world championships, Russia (that's ALL of Russia LMAO, not just Dagestan which is a tiny corner of Russia) had 4 world champs in freestyle, the US had 3. Greco isn't as applicable to MMA at all since you can't attack the legs.

So...you are again talking out your ass.
russia had 13 medals in 2018 world champion ships in budapest where sadulayev whooped snyder. 10 golds 1 silver 2 bronze. most of those medals came from the caucasus region of russia. and greco is actually very applicable to mma. best clinch takedown artists are greco guys. you can easily incorporate trips to your clinch work. randy couture was probably the best clinch takedown guy who many fighters including khabib copy and he came from greco. they have the best upperbody ability to takedown whether you like it or not.
 
I don’t even know what you’re trying to say... as the poster mentioned above, stop talking out of your ass. The US is neck and neck with Russia in freestyle wrestling right now. The entire country of Russia barely beat the US this last year at Worlds. And again, that is in a style that most of our guys don’t grow up wrestling. How do you think those Russians would look in folkstyle matches against our top guys?
the 4 guys who won the russian gold medals in freestyle wrestling are all from the caucasus and 3 of them are from dagestan. you want me to go into greco ? thats 3 million ppl winning almost 90% of russias gold medals. the usa is practically competing vs 3 million people and losing that neck and neck race to 3 mils.
 
Who are these 20 world champs in this 3k village?

In the 2018 world championships, Russia (that's ALL of Russia LMAO, not just Dagestan which is a tiny corner of Russia) had 4 world champs in freestyle, the US had 3. Greco isn't as applicable to MMA at all since you can't attack the legs.

So...you are again talking out your ass.
all 4 freestyle gold medals are from the caucasus and 3 of them from dagestan specifically. 90% of russian male medals in wrestling come from the caucasus and more specifically dagestan. 300+ millions in usa are failing to produce as many champions as a few millions mountain ppl living in poverty. you get what my point is? have u ever been to the cacuasus? 99% of males do combat sports, your chances of meeting someone that can whoop your ass no matter how tough you are are extremely high. you guys do football, baseball, soccer and basketball they do combat sports.
 
Who are these 20 world champs in this 3k village?

In the 2018 world championships, Russia (that's ALL of Russia LMAO, not just Dagestan which is a tiny corner of Russia) had 4 world champs in freestyle, the US had 3. Greco isn't as applicable to MMA at all since you can't attack the legs.

So...you are again talking out your ass.
one more thing i forgot to mention, they actually represent alot of other countries. the guy from bahrain who lost the gold medal is from dagestan (adam batirov)? you get my point ? apparently im not the one talking out of my ass. you are. i know my facts, you dont. this is just an example. many more are representing other nations in europe, asia and the middle east. he got a silver medal representing bahrain. lets count that in.
 
the 4 guys who won the russian gold medals in freestyle wrestling are all from the caucasus and 3 of them are from dagestan. you want me to go into greco ? thats 3 million ppl winning almost 90% of russias gold medals. the usa is practically competing vs 3 million people and losing that neck and neck race to 3 mils.

Uh, just because a majority of good Russian wrestlers come from one area doesn’t mean the selection pool is limited to that area.
Wrestling is a HUGE sport across the entire country of Russia. It’s probably top 10 or close to it. Wrestling in the US gets less attention than women’s volleyball. It wouldn’t make a top 100 most popular sport in the US.

And yet, here we are neck and neck with Russia this year after beating them last year. Again, in a style that isn’t even wrestled in college.

So to summarize, wrestling is far less popular, we have far less resources, we wrestle in a different style growing up and we still are competitive in freestyle against Russia. That’s not something you should be proud of.
 
Uh, just because a majority of good Russian wrestlers come from one area doesn’t mean the selection pool is limited to that area.
Wrestling is a HUGE sport across the entire country of Russia. It’s probably top 10 or close to it. Wrestling in the US gets less attention than women’s volleyball. It wouldn’t make a top 100 most popular sport in the US.

And yet, here we are neck and neck with Russia this year after beating them last year. Again, in a style that isn’t even wrestled in college.

So to summarize, wrestling is far less popular, we have far less resources, we wrestle in a different style growing up and we still are competitive in freestyle against Russia. That’s not something you should be proud of.
you have way more resources in the usa than they have in russia in regardsd of wrestling. bro, theyre living in poverty LOL.. what are you talking about? and no wrestling isnt as famous outside of the caucasus as it is inside. ethnic russians are moving towards common sports slowly. most combat sports tournaments on the russian national level are won by people from the caucasus. be it judo, sambo, mma, or wrestling. theyre bread different for more than a thousand years. 99% of the population does combat sports and look down upon common sports like soccer, basketball and such.
 
you have way more resources in the usa than they have in russia in regardsd of wrestling. bro, theyre living in poverty LOL.. what are you talking about? and no wrestling isnt as famous outside of the caucasus as it is inside. ethnic russians are moving towards common sports slowly. most combat sports tournaments on the russian national level are won by people from the caucasus. be it judo, sambo, mma, or wrestling. theyre bread different for more than a thousand years. 99% of the population does combat sports and look down upon common sports like soccer, basketball and such.

Lol no. Why do you think the best Russian wrestlers stay in wrestling? Because they are sponsored by your government and given large amounts of money. They don’t need mma money. Sadulaev makes more money than the entire US team combined. Good Russian wrestlers are paid very well. Aside from maybe our top 3-4 guys, most US wrestlers struggle to make ends meet. I’ve talked to many of them.
 
you have way more resources in the usa than they have in russia in regardsd of wrestling. bro, theyre living in poverty LOL.. what are you talking about? and no wrestling isnt as famous outside of the caucasus as it is inside. ethnic russians are moving towards common sports slowly. most combat sports tournaments on the russian national level are won by people from the caucasus. be it judo, sambo, mma, or wrestling. theyre bread different for more than a thousand years. 99% of the population does combat sports and look down upon common sports like soccer, basketball and such.

He is saying we have more resources but don't commit them to wrestling like Russia does.

The size of a populace means jack shit when it comes to this stuff too LMAO. You again are talking out your ass. We lose to far lesser populated countries in soccer nonstop. Why is that?

At the elite levels, the best guys are just the best and being from one region doesn't matter.

Gregor is world class whether you like it or not. Yeah a shade below Dake, Burroughs, Cox but still elite.
 
Dagestan wrestlers are way better 95% of our guys duhhh. Sure you will get a Ben or Tyron once in a blue moon....
 
Lol no. Why do you think the best Russian wrestlers stay in wrestling? Because they are sponsored by your government and given large amounts of money. They don’t need mma money. Sadulaev makes more money than the entire US team combined. Good Russian wrestlers are paid very well. Aside from maybe our top 3-4 guys, most US wrestlers struggle to make ends meet. I’ve talked to many of them.
stop believing the lies. LOL. i have friends who won gold medals. theyre taken care of but not the way youre thinking. you get as much money as any regular job after you retire for the rest of your life and thats it. youre not a millionaire. same money as a regular government employee makes. LOL... youre thinking russian olympic athletes are millionaires?
 
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He is saying we have more resources but don't commit them to wrestling like Russia does.

The size of a populace means jack shit when it comes to this stuff too LMAO. You again are talking out your ass. We lose to far lesser populated countries in soccer nonstop. Why is that?

At the elite levels, the best guys are just the best and being from one region doesn't matter.

Gregor is world class whether you like it or not. Yeah a shade below Dake, Burroughs, Cox but still elite.
gregor would have never even made it as a participant in the olympics. yeah hes good but not as good as youre saying. and yes american wrestlers have access to better training facilities and training equipments, nutrition and care than their russian counterparts. the myth that was portrayed in the rocky 4 is actually the opposite. russians are the ones training in old school ways and americans are the ones employing all the tech and shit. as i said 4 golds and 1 silver in last world freestyle championships are from the caucasus. im sure with a bit more research i can stick a couple of more but cba. my point was and remains and its the factual truth... if you go to any random wrestling club in makhachkala you will find a dozen guys who would school gregor. ANY RANDOM WRESTLING CLUB. i know what im talking about cause i have been there. and btw most mma fighters from the caucasus train with the olympic teams of their states and/or invite champion level wrestlers to train with them and its way cheaper than in the usa, its almost free LOL. so yeah khabib has access to way better wrestlers than gregor can ever dream of training with.
 
gregor would have never even made it as a participant in the olympics. yeah hes good but not as good as youre saying. and yes american wrestlers have access to better training facilities and training equipments, nutrition and care than their russian counterparts. the myth that was portrayed in the rocky 4 is actually the opposite. russians are the ones training in old school ways and americans are the ones employing all the tech and shit. as i said 4 golds and 1 silver in last world freestyle championships are from the caucasus. im sure with a bit more research i can stick a couple of more but cba. my point was and remains and its the factual truth... if you go to any random wrestling club in makhachkala you will find a dozen guys who would school gregor. ANY RANDOM WRESTLING CLUB. i know what im talking about cause i have been there. and btw most mma fighters from the caucasus train with the olympic teams of their states and/or invite champion level wrestlers to train with them and its way cheaper than in the usa, its almost free LOL. so yeah khabib has access to way better wrestlers than gregor can ever dream of training with.

I just don't believe you. Are there probably world class guys scattered throughout these gyms in the Caucuses? Yeah, for sure. But saying there's dozens of guys who would school Gregor at any random club in Dagestan is lunacy. Just ridiculous.
 
I just don't believe you. Are there probably world class guys scattered throughout these gyms in the Caucuses? Yeah, for sure. But saying there's dozens of guys who would school Gregor at any random club in Dagestan is lunacy. Just ridiculous.
i just proved to you 5 medals of last years world championships are from the caucasus 4 of them from dagestan alone. the population of dagestan is 3 million. penn state is considered the best wrestling state in the usa? how many world champions did it have last world championships? its population is 12 mil. makhachkala population is 500-600k people. there arent that many gyms around and its producing a huge amount of world champions meaning for every guy the won a medal there 10s or 100s who didnt. there arent that many gyms in a 500k city and there are tons of guys with huge wrestling talents,even guys coming from other russian states or even countries to train there. being an olympic champion or a world champion in wrestling or something else isnt even that big of a deal there LOL.
 
If he can beat some good wrestlers, then he'll have a case.
 
i just proved to you 5 medals of last years world championships are from the caucasus 4 of them from dagestan alone. the population of dagestan is 3 million. penn state is considered the best wrestling state in the usa? how many world champions did it have last world championships? its population is 12 mil. makhachkala population is 500-600k people. there arent that many gyms around and its producing a huge amount of world champions meaning for every guy the won a medal there 10s or 100s who didnt. there arent that many gyms in a 500k city and there are tons of guys with huge wrestling talents,even guys coming from other russian states or even countries to train there. being an olympic champion or a world champion in wrestling or something else isnt even that big of a deal there LOL.

Again, population means nothing in discussing this. The US is the third most populated country in the world and we didn't even QUALIFY for the last soccer world cup.

From a depth standpoint sure, per capita that region is way better. I agree. But at the absolute peak all those things go away. The best of the best US guys are equal to the best anywhere. As evidenced by them winning world championships. And Gillespie losing on pts to Burroughs in college shows (if you watch that match) that while he was certainly a shade below him, it wasn't that big a gap. And maybe had he stuck with wrestling he could have made that final step-esp at a lower weight class.
 
Again, population means nothing in discussing this. The US is the third most populated country in the world and we didn't even QUALIFY for the last soccer world cup.

From a depth standpoint sure, per capita that region is way better. I agree. But at the absolute peak all those things go away. The best of the best US guys are equal to the best anywhere. As evidenced by them winning world championships. And Gillespie losing on pts to Burroughs in college shows (if you watch that match) that while he was certainly a shade below him, it wasn't that big a gap. And maybe had he stuck with wrestling he could have made that final step-esp at a lower weight class.
the population really do matter. you didnt qualify for the world cup means youre less likely to find talent in soccer clubs than you are in spain or brazil. are you this thick? a country of 3 million producing this many world champions is more likely to have people who are higher level than gregor in its gym than lets say china. you cant be this thick can you?? damn bro... the talent pool in dagestan is way bigger than usa. the wrestling gyms in dagestan are stacked with more talent than the best wrestling states in usa multiplied by 50 times. as i said how many champion ships did penn state of 12 millions have last championships? LOL... did u even go to school???
 
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