Will bare knuckle events be banned?

[CatchnShoot]

Very unfortunate. RIP Justin and I also hope Cleckler is the same after this. Watching it live I thought.... hmmm, that dude might be paralyzed after that landing, but I didn't imagine it would end like this.

Juxtaposed with the backdrop of the announcer fucks stating how much "safer" bare knuckle is. Just shitty.


In terms of sanctioning in new states, I'd have to think that that just got a lot more difficult. BK is very new in the US, so who fucking knows. It's much more difficult to ban a sport that's been around for a couple hundred years vs one that's just come on the scene.

No way to know for sure, but I'd guess the looser states will still be happy to have it.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

It was an early shot to the jaw though, that isn’t a place that will injure the hand

All bone on bone will injure the hand, depends on the conditioning of the knuckles and wrist of how bad the damage is or how much damage the bones can take before breaking. KO was early and a really bad KO to receive because of the skill and athletic difference. These type of mismatches is when fighters usually end up dying. Like that female boxer that died recently, another mismatch and that was the primary reason she ended up dying as well. They have no business being in the ring vs those fighters and the end results is devastating.

 

[Oozing BDE]

MMA should be bare knuckle so no.

 

[Trill850]

Man that fucking sucks. One of my teammates fought him twice. The guy had the heart of a lion. RIP Thornton

 

[Oceanmachine]

Boxing has much bigger gloves and there has been many deaths. it was the way he fell, which is mostly always the case in these deaths. If you look at the deaths in boxing or even deaths in street fights, its never the punch or kick, but its their head hitting the floor. I used to go to college with a guy a long time ago who was paralyzed because his head hit the floor while he fell of a Bicycle.

Thats why people say if you are training BJJ, never ever do a triangle or armbar type move in a street fight, because if someone picks you up and drops you on your head on the concrete floor you can be severely paralyzed or even worse dead

No

Most deaths are due to dehydrated brains from weight cutting and the body having less fluid meaning hits are harder. That is why most deaths are at low weight classes where guys fight after weight cut. HW dont cut in most combat sports. Also bigger guys take it better even from each other


Well you right it is the fall that does most damage but it is magnified by dehydration and weakened bodies.

Also bare knucle means your punches are less powerful. There is a misconception that gloves make it safer. All gloves do is make you able to hit even harder and transfer more concusive force.

With the unfortunate passing of Thornton, will bare knuckle events be on the chopping block soon? Or will they adapt and implement new rules? As small as MMA gloves are, it’s evident they do play a factor in making the sport safer.

I know he took a brutal fall at a bad angle, and yes the matchmaking was terrible and should be overseen in the future.

What changes would you like to see in the coming future?

You can hit someone harder with gloves on that without

 

[TheMaster]

It wasn't the lack of gloves that caused it, it was the shady matchmaking.

No gloves makes fighting bloodier, but not more dangerous. You can actually punch a lot harder with gloves.

This is generally true but not in all cases. You can do much more facial damage without gloves for example and cause orbital fractures easier.

BK has its dangers like MMA.

 

[r-harper-1]

Matchmaking was a complete joke

 

[Ghis2]

Why should they be? Both parties who sign up to fight are consenting, they know the risks involved. I think dueling should be legalised as well, by the way.

 

[HeDidn'tWantTheFight]

There actually is a worthwhile discussion to be had here. It doesn't have anything to do with bareknuckle itself, but what it does have to do is ACs approving complete mismatches, especially when the disadvantaged fighter is older and has an extensive history of getting knocked out.

 

[WHITEBELT JESUS]

They”ll just tape the knuckles from now on but maybe dip the hands in resin then glass to give you that “wow, that’s fucking violent” factor.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

Some of you in this thread seem to be forgetting that a 58 year old Evander Holyfield fought recently. Athletic Commissions don't give a fuck about fighter safety.

Nothing will happen to BKFC or Bare Knuckle Boxing. Nor should it.

Commissions in certain states don't give a fuck. Holyfield was denied by California, Triller moved the event to retard capital of the world, Florida. Holyfield also wasn't allowed to compete in NY 15 years ago.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

MMA should be bare knuckle so no.

Isn't that what Masvidal's promotion is?

 

[Adamant]

With the unfortunate passing of Thornton, will bare knuckle events be on the chopping block soon? Or will they adapt and implement new rules?

Hopefully neither. There are way too many rules and regulations as it is. This was an unfortunate thing with this guy, but fighters know what they are getting themselves into. If they are fine taking the risk, then let them. Just for the love of God, stop trying to regulate everything and add more and more and more rules.

 

[fenway926]

Baseball? lol did they die of boredom?

one man died in the 1920's from a pitch to the head. this was before MLB wore helmets. not sure why he listed baseball.

more people have died during soccer games, including 7 this year according to wikipedia.

 

[calexus]

I personally think it's a huge myth that gloves are there to protect the hands of fighters, and not the heads of opponents. To me it seems obvious that the naked fist is a deadlier weapon, and a well conditioned fist thrown with correct technique stands little chance of being damaged.

I'm certain we'll see more deaths like this, though I have no opinion about it being banned.

 

[campbecc]

In theory, sure.

But it's only happened once in the history of MLB baseball. In 1920, before there were batting helmets. Combat sports are obviously many magnitudes more dangerous and likely to lead to death. But of course I don't agree that bare knuckle or any decently regulated combat sport should be banned, it would be crazy for a combat sports fan to take that position.

So it only counts in the major leagues? https://people.com/sports/high-scho...-of-brain-injury-after-colliding-with-player/

 

[this is my new account]

They should make the cage floor very soft to where the guy doesnt kill hi.self headbutting the ground after getting flatlined

 

[Sad Dad]

I mean bare knuckle is just cuts and broken hands… doesn’t really tickle me.

 

[pv3Hpv3p]

It's sad but people die in combat/contact sports sometimes.

Not a reason to ban them.

Unless we all align with the 'Dr. Cocteau plan' and build a better and more peaceful San Angeles.

 

[DebtCollectorMMA]

It should

There's no up and coming guys competing there. Only washed up fragile hasbeens or never was-es

They haven't even been around long, already a death