Why was Vettori the favorite on here??

Hindsight is 20/20.

I expected Vettori to wrestle as well.

His fight IQ is abysmal, and Jared looked better then expected.
 
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13691/Jared-Cannonier-vs-Sean-Strickland

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13691/Jared-Cannonier-vs-Sean-Strickland

Media scores had it 13-7 in favor of Cannonier with 1 50-45 and 3 49-46 scores.

On the other hand look at this... http://mmadecisions.com/decision/13859/Marvin-Vettori-vs-Roman-Dolidze

14-14... So according to media scores The Dolidze fight was even and Cannonier clearly beat Strickland. If Marvin was coming off a string of wins it would make sense but he was coming off a close decision himself and before that he got battered by Whittaker.

Thinly veiled? I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind Vettori being a big favorite on here. So far it seems like the main reasons are Cannonier is old and he had a close fight with Strickland. Imo Dolidze would get whooped by Strickland.

That last comment of yours reads like an actual threat lol.

It wasn't a threat, I'm not that passive, I'd just say what's on my mind. It's a reference from Italian Gangster movies "like nice shop you got here, be a shame if something happened" as they are extorting the shopkeeper.

Quick review of those scores and I can already point out multiple things. For Fuck's sake 50-45? Guy is from CBS sports. Scored card brought to you by Pfizer. Same guy scored for Dolidze. The other 3 49-46 aren't even from MMA outlets. The wrestling observer is closest and he also score for Dolidze. Vettori clearly won the Dolidze fight, as did Strickland win his. Most MMA journalist don't know shit. Few train, and fewer have ever competed in anything.

P.S. Shout out to Sherdog. Keith Shillan was 1-0 and Jay Pettry 2-0 on correct decisions
 
Hindsight is 20/20.

I expected Vettori to wrestle as well.

His fight IQ is abysmal, and Jared looked better then expected.
I don't think it's one of those hindsight cases. Seems more like people don't know Cannonier's game. Cannonier is unwrestleable at MW and a much better striker than Vet.
 
I don't think it's one of those hindsight cases. Seems more like people don't know Cannonier's game. Cannonier is unwrestleable at MW and a much better striker than Vet.
Bo Nickal is top 40 and would ragdoll him, there just aren't many good wrestlers at 185
 
Bo Nickal is top 40 and would ragdoll him, there just aren't many good wrestlers at 185
Maybe he would but that's the caliber of wrestler it takes. His ranking is irrelevant since he just entered the league. Guys like Vet, Brunson and Hermansson clearly don't have enough to control Cannonier.
 
It wasn't a threat, I'm not that passive, I'd just say what's on my mind. It's a reference from Italian Gangster movies "like nice shop you got here, be a shame if something happened" as they are extorting the shopkeeper.
I know what it's a reference to which is why it seems more like a threat xD
 
Maybe he would but that's the caliber of wrestler it takes. His ranking is irrelevant since he just entered the league. Guys like Vet, Brunson and Hermansson clearly don't have enough to control Cannonier.
Brunson is the only wrestler and he has awful mma wrestling. Awful amateur wrestling as well. He has credentials but I'd be shocked if he didn't get destroyed by college freshman at any D1 or D2 program in the country at this point. He leads with his head forward and down like a highschool freshmen. I knew Izzy would starch him when they fought on Israel's run to the title. He's so hittable, and honestly I don't know how he could take you down with that technique. I'd be embarrassed if Brunson took me down. According to Wikipedia bio(take it for what it's worth) he had wrestling and cheerleading scholarships. He should have gone with Cheerleading. He went to UNC Pembroke. Never heard of it, but says he's a D2 3x all-American which is impressive. He clearly lost those skills though. He's not a good wrestler.
 
Vettori was a pretty lopsided favorite in the poll on here... For the people that picked Vettori, Why??? I didn't understand it before the fight and still don't understand it now. Sure he has an insane chin but how did you think he was going to beat Cannonier? Cannonier did much better against Izzy and Whittaker than Vettori did (excluding Vettori's 1st fight against green Izzy where he wrestled him).

On another note Cannonier looked better than ever and smashed the significant strikes record for a Middleweight fight.

He's more technically sound, and Cannonier is a bit reluctant to pull the trigger usually.
 
Skin color, diversity, and Vettori is an environmentalist bringing lettuce hands to the fight, that's for sure.
 
I think most people thought Vettori was going to outwork Cannonier and since Cannonier is the typical explosive black dude people were banking in Vetorri zapping his cardio and/or Cannonier fighting with a low output (the Romero/Woodley game plan) to avoid gassing out.
 
Vettori was a pretty lopsided favorite in the poll on here... For the people that picked Vettori, Why??? I didn't understand it before the fight and still don't understand it now. Sure he has an insane chin but how did you think he was going to beat Cannonier? Cannonier did much better against Izzy and Whittaker than Vettori did (excluding Vettori's 1st fight against green Izzy where he wrestled him).

On another note Cannonier looked better than ever and smashed the significant strikes record for a Middleweight fight.
I was picking Cannonier, but the answer to yourbquestion is that Vettori had multiple ways to victory. I expected him to lay and pray his way to victory, but instead we gor a real spectacle where he was more than happy to stand and bang.
 
He was not the favourite only here, all betting sites tracked by fightodds had him -130 to -150. The analysis was that he had a concrete chin (he showed just that) and that Jared was gonna gas mid second round and was gonna getoutworked easy (oh but that did not happen).

I parlayed him and Tsarukyan for 10 bucks and won 12.29, which is going to Gillian Robertson against baby Shark next week (Gillian is also weirdly a +110 underdog, cash in before instead of complaining later)
 
Probably the age factor.

People didn't realize Marvin would implement zero fight IQ and thought he may one day get better.
 
well vittori has very high output, doesnt stop. cannonier said in his post fight that they worked on putting pressure on vittori and raising cannoniers striking output. he hurt him bad and kept the pace high. cannonier fought a higer pace than he usually does. he is powerfull, couldnt stop vettori but hit him hard enough to drain him and break his will a bit
 
Probably the same reason Cannonier just broke the striking record by a huge margin punching Vettori in the face but the primary focus is Vettori’s durability. Some aren’t looking to embrace the better fighting performance they are looking to embrace a relatable boyfriend
 
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