Why Rousey is likely to retire undefeated

[Hemmmmmo]

Who gives a damn. It's womens mma. Retireing undefeated don't mean crap.

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[DysDave]

So, it's worth reiterating since everyone's hellbent on the Cyborg thing. They are drastically different weightclasses. Forget the fact Rousey once competed at 145, she is comfortably making 135- it's her natural weight. Cyborg on the other hand barely makes 145 and is now at 155. You might as well say Barao is ducking Aldo, and won't prove himself until he beats him.

Another point is that PEDs in WMMA have a far, far greater effect than MMA. Testosterone levels are naturally high in men, and low in women- introducing PEDs to women gives them a huge advantage.

Let's take random numbers- say a woman's level is 10, and a man's is 100. A man has 10x the amount of testosterone, seems reasonable. Now taking steroids increases the man's level to 300, the woman's to 100. Much larger increase for the man, but he only has 3x the testosterone of a man. A woman has 10x. Doesn't take much to figure out how unfair an advantage that is. Not saying Rousey isn't on something too, since we all know how great Olympic testing is, but she looks like she could be natural and hasn't been caught. If she falls under suspicion, then so does every athlete in the UFC bar Nelson.

And those saying it's only WMMA, who cares? Guess what, every fight put on in the UFC by women so far has been fantastic. Rousey/Carmouche was the highlight after a snoozer from Hendo/Machida. Tate and Zingano was an all out brawl. Let's compare that to the highlight reel displays lately by Shields, Evans, Cormier, GSP, Hendo...

GTFO with this WMMA is garbage shit. They're not as skilled, but that makes it more exciting- because LnP isn't a thing yet. They go all out for it, which is more than you can say for most of the men in the game.

 

[DysDave]

I stopped reading when he said Ronda was like Jon Jones.

Oh, and you're right of course. Rousey's actually unbeaten in the UFC, my bad. :redface:

 

[Cindy mma]

I find it hard to read all of that

 

[Fresh Burek]

Oh, and you're right of course. Rousey's actually unbeaten in the UFC, my bad. :redface:

Rousey had 1 fight in the ufc. Jones had like 10.

 

[The5thgod]

Jon Jones is well rounded though unlike Rousey

I agree

 

[fightdonttweet]

Nothing wrong with a one-trick-pony if it works every time against opponents who know its coming but can't stop it.

How is that not intriguing to you?

What's wrong with one-trick-ponies is that they don't stay undefeated. People seem to forget she's only had 7 fights.

 

[FrodoFraggins]

Because she'll never fight Cyborg

 

[VAfan]

now imagine if she retires undefeated with all armbar finishes? talk about a record that would never be broken.

 

[chaosclown17]

Rousey will probably retire in a few years to pursue acting full-time.

If we're lucky, both Rousey and Carano will take a break from their acting careers to fight each other.

I think Rousey will head to acting in a few years also.

Especially if she does get defeated.

For some reason, I think Cyborg will play a part in it. Either when the Cyborg fight hype reaches crazy heights, or after the fight. Regardless of outcome.

Not saying she is scared or anything. Just how I see it going down.

That being said, Gina's return to MMA is near implausible.

 

[Westbrick]

Because she's scared of Cyborg.

 

[caligo]

I'm not sure I agree with everyone comparing what Rousey does to what Royce Gracie did the early days of MMA. Many of her opponents, like Carmouche and Tate, arguably have a decent ground game by MMA standards. The sport has evolved a great deal, and the female MMA fighters use the same gyms and coaches as their male counterparts -- the people she faces most likely know how to defend armbars, and the fact that she gets them anyway just means that she is a very good grappler. When Roxanne Modafferi tried to armbar Sarah Kaufman she got slammed to the ground, Rampage style. When Rousey got Kaufman in more or less the same position Kaufman had no choice but to tap. Ronda gets the armbar despite the fact that her opponents know it's coming and have trained defending it, and that's what's so impressive about it.

To me it seems to be a question of being a great athlete more than anything else, both in terms of physical gifts and mentality. Rousey is truly a great athlete by any standard, and since women's MMA is still such a small sport there are very few of those. Also, those few female MMA fighters who can be considered great athletes have typically transitioned from some other sport, like judo or boxing -- as far as I can tell there are very few female fighters that have a background primarily in MMA rather than being boxers/judokas/kickboxers turned MMA fighters. Transitioning from one sport to another can be quite difficult, but Rousey's style of judo seems to have translated really well to MMA -- probably because she was a ground specialist in her judo days, which gives her both good submissions and a good takedown/clinch game.

That being said, there are still parts of Rousey's game that we have not seen. We don't know how well she handles a really good grappler on the ground, for example. We also don't know how she would fare where she ever to face someone who she can't bully in the clinch. I'm not really that interested in seeing Rousey face more good strikers -- I don't think Holly Holm will fare any better than Sarah Kaufman did, although everything is certainly possible in MMA -- but it would be interesting to see her face a strong judoka like Rin Nakai or a great BJJ player like Kyra Gracie.

 

[WilbertoSilva]

As soon as anyone can keep it standing for a round or more, she's in trouble. Her striking is pretty poor and she will be picked apart at some stage. She can't armbar every single person she fights...

 

[faixabranca]

Rousey will likely be undefeated because her opponents are either true 125ers or smaller and/or lack the skill to shut down her grappling.

She will never face Cyborg, because to paraphrase Wallid, Ronda has a scared of her. Also, eess boolsheet. Cyborg will nullify much of Rousey's grappling by being stronger. That would force Ronda to stand and she has not shown much striking skill. If another fighter could somehow do that, the Rousey hype train would be de-railed.

The UFC basically has shown zero interest in making WMMA legit. Instead of maybe adding a 125lb class or adding some more established women, they sign Alexandra 'Dat Ass' Albu. Her record is sketchy and all she really has is hype (and being cute, let's be honest). They're completely stacking the deck in Ronda's favor.

 

[StoneWT]

Rousey will likely be undefeated because her opponents are either true 125ers or smaller and/or lack the skill to shut down her grappling.

She will never face Cyborg, because to paraphrase Wallid, Ronda has a scared of her. Also, eess boolsheet. Cyborg will nullify much of Rousey's grappling by being stronger. That would force Ronda to stand and she has not shown much striking skill. If another fighter could somehow do that, the Rousey hype train would be de-railed.

The UFC basically has shown zero interest in making WMMA legit. Instead of maybe adding a 125lb class or adding some more established women, they sign Alexandra 'Dat Ass' Albu. Her record is sketchy and all she really has is hype (and being cute, let's be honest). They're completely stacking the deck in Ronda's favor.

Well, she would fall apart with a loss. She is winning and acting like a complete jackass. How will she act when she eventually loses? If she can reach 10 fights, she could pretend to say she made her mark and exit the fight game.

 

[theheater]

ronda is better than all the woman today. that said all the women including ronda have massive holes in their game or lack athleticism

liz got her back. sorry but that was just way too easy and from a fighter of liz's experience and caliber its really not acceptable. ronda gives these pep talks like shes this emotionless robot when she fights etc. no shes not. she makes amateur mistakes and gets away with them because shes athletically superior and nobody else is good enough to capitalize. i remember rondas version of closing the distance vs tate was to charge forward while eating punches with her chin up. sorry but theres just so much room to for improvement its hard to see her dominating until retirement

ronda could obv retire whenever she wants but theres no hollywood waiting for her imo. shes would probably make the worst actor on the ufc roster. also the novelty of ronda is wearing off and her true colors are shining through. as sad as it may be our culture doesnt appreciate women with rondas personality. if it doesnt sell then people wont pay you for it. if ronda is a retired fighter i think her marketability is nothing. someone like carano is totally different than ronda

 

[Kneeuinthenutz]

Right that too. :wink:

I will say I find it hilarious how this was pretty much just cast aside by the entire MMA community.

I don't see how her mouthpiece could have "accidentally" come out when someone is crushing her face with their forearm over her mouth. If anything that would keep her mouthpiece in place. We've seen decades of MMA, and it's never happened before. We have however seen rare instances where someone purposely bites their opponent to gain an advantage.

I personally think she panicked, and on instinct decided to sink her teeth into her arm out of desperation.

 

[riitzni]

Already expressed my thoughts about this, but if Rousey decides to retire in three years, it is more than possible that she'll go out undefeated at around 11-0.

If she sticks around for more than three years, I see it becoming less and less likely that she'll be unbeaten due to aging and increasingly tougher and more skilled challengers.

 

[bowened]

She'll retire like Gina did, with one loss.

She'll eventually take a beating a decide to let that pretty face make money in movies.

 

[faixabranca]

She'll retire like Gina did, with one loss.

She'll eventually take a beating a decide to let that pretty face make money in movies.

Pretty face...Ronda Rousey...no sir, I believe you are incorrect. Awesome body, yes, pretty face...no.

But you're correct in that she may take one or two beatings and decide her time is better speny elsewhere like Lesnar. IF she gets that whooping, though, which I don't believe will occur.