Why only $15 an hour?

kpt018 said:
Based on his hostility towards fast food workers I'd bet he's just above that pay range. He probably thinks he's hot shit because he makes $12/hour at Costco.

Guys who make big money don't care that much (except the extent it effects their businesses).
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You're one of, if not, the worst poster on here. You and your bum life insults are below my pay grade.
 
Minimum wage increases are kind of laughable economics. When you start paying everyone $15/hr, the price of goods will reflect that. And let's how great our exports look when the price of goods increases to reflect the new cost of production. As exports fail, the cost will be transferred or corporations will become less profitable. If they become less profitable, that lost tax revenue will be transferred to you, the working stiff. Start thinking with your heads, not with your heart strings. You are about as likely to win the War on Poverty as you are likely to permanently win the War on Terror. You will always have poor schmucks, just like you will always have some asshole in the world who hates the US for whatever reason. Get over it.
 
sub_thug said:
Minimum wage increases are kind of laughable economics. When you start paying everyone $15/hr, the price of goods will reflect that. And let's how great our exports look when the price of goods increases to reflect the new cost of production. As exports fail, the cost will be transferred or corporations will become less profitable. If they become less profitable, that lost tax revenue will be transferred to you, the working stiff. Start thinking with your heads, not with your heart strings. You are about as likely to win the War on Poverty as you are likely to permanently win the War on Terror. You will always have poor schmucks, just like you will always have some asshole in the world who hates the US for whatever reason. Get over it.
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Boom! End of Discussion.
 
Minimum wage is terrible for employers and employees alike, abolition is the only suitable course of action.
 
Lead said:
I've listened to these things before, especially from NPR. I fail to understand why they find it so amusing compared to my previous post. It's like the bitcoin of liberals. It's fun to talk about the idea but in practice, it isn't as useful as what is in place.
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What's in place isn't going to work when we lose millions of jobs that can't be replaced even if we wanted to.
 
Rational Poster said:
What's in place isn't going to work when we lose millions of jobs that can't be replaced even if we wanted to.
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They'll be replaced. Stop being a pessimist. Or have you been conditioned to be this negative? Did you not see Trump in a meeting room with the top tech bosses, who most said they're going to create new jobs?
 
EvilWasLittle said:
They'll be replaced. Stop being a pessimist. Or have you been conditioned to be this negative? Did you not see Trump in a meeting room with the top tech bosses, who most said they're going to create new jobs?
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How?

When the need for manual labor is removed, what is everyone going to do?

Is everyone going to be a repair drone repairman?

Andrew Puzder wants to put you out of business. He wants to make fully automated restaurants.
 
Rational Poster said:
How?

When the need for manual labor is removed, what is everyone going to do?

Is everyone going to be a repair drone repairman?

Andrew Pudzer wants to put you out of business.
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How? By bringing production back to the U.S., making vehicles here, and shit like that. Stopping the EPA restrictions and allowing new companies to thrive, grow and hiring more people. Building up inner cities by bringing more jobs into them, which was discussed by Trump and a team of leaders today. I don't know why you would think we could NEVER EVER EVER EVER bring manual labor jobs back to the U.S. Obama must have really conditioned you to think we're a second rate country.
 
3825 968 said:
My minimum wage employees are mostly high school or uni kids. I employ 30 people half make min. So ill be hiring 1 less person next year to pay the raise for the others. Pay 13 people a buck more and the 14th is right out of a job.
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At the margin.
 
Rational Poster said:
How?

When the need for manual labor is removed, what is everyone going to do?

Is everyone going to be a repair drone repairman?

Andrew Puzder wants to put you out of business. He wants to make fully automated restaurants.
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I don't own a damn restaurant. I'm not telling anyone on here what I do. I don't post certain information on message boards that leads back to who I am. I already said a vicinity I live in, that's all the personal info that could lead someone to knowing who I am this board is getting.
 
Edison Carasio said:
But neither of those statements are true. Steel working and iron working, shaping steel and iron into something is skilled. Simply making it yields many unskilled jobs. I'm the first of the males of my family to nothe go into the steel mill. It's hard work but unskilled work none the less. Anyone with an able body can do many of the jobs there. My uncle has worked in steel 35+ years and he's not the brightest.

You're biased like many people, probably because you work in heavy industry and it's human nature to look down on people who serve us food. But the fact is a guy flipping burgers is probably just as smart as the grunt at the mill or the grunt the down in the mine.
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no they aren't, to your last pt.

if they were, they'd have a job that paid more than minimum wage and isn't designed for entry level, HS type employment

Occam's razor. An adult working min wage has NOBODY to blame but themselves
 
EvilWasLittle said:
How? By bringing production back to the U.S., making vehicles here, and shit like that. Stopping the EPA restrictions and allowing new companies to thrive, grow and hiring more people. Building up inner cities by bringing more jobs into them, which was discussed by Trump and a team of leaders today. I don't know why you would think we could NEVER EVER EVER EVER bring manual labor jobs back to the U.S. Obama must have really conditioned you to think we're a second rate country.
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How is fully automated production going to create jobs?
 
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