Opinion Why Joe Biden won't be the Dem Nominee

[jamesmiller14]

They sure as hell helped her whip Bernie's ass in the primary.

Is that how it went?

 

[JonesBones]

Oxy is heroine buddy.

Take the opium out of heroine or Oxy or vicodine, and you have nothing.

That's right. That little happy pill you take is dirty, nasty, drug addict heroine.

you make me feel so bad. lol. I had no idea it was an opiate. It is't heroin, it is opium. Are you gonna compare tylenol 3s to heroin? you're and idiot

 

[nac386]

One person saying one thing once does not a trend make. Show me a Democratic candidate saying these things.

He was the Democratic President for 8 years, the thought leader of the party and most popular Democrat of the first 20 years of this century (and maybe a lot longer). There's literally no better example than him. I'm not going to search the internet for you just because you were wrong and can't let it go. But that proves the point I made, about you guys really not caring about the truth at all, you only care about your narrative.

 

[JonesBones]

Is that how it went?

“The margin by which we lost the African-American vote has got to be — at the very least — cut in half or there simply is no path to victory,” the team wrote in the memo, which was reviewed by The New York Times. Mr. Sanders had won 14 percent of the black vote there compared with 86 percent for Hillary Clinton, according to exit polls.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/us/politics/bernie-sanders-black-voters-outreach.html

 

[Madmick]

So now socialists are resorting to full-blown race pandering in the same fashion as the mid-to-late-20th century southern GOP.

Desperate. Divisive. Hateful. Typical of this political philosophy.

 

[VivaRevolution]

you make me feel so bad. lol. I had no idea it was an opiate. It is't heroin, it is opium. Are you gonna compare tylenol 3s to heroin? you're and idiot

Tylenol 3 without the heroine, is called Tylenol.

 

[HereticBD]

He was the Democratic President for 8 years, the thought leader of the party and most popular Democrat of the first 20 years of this century (and maybe a lot longer). There's literally no better example than him. I'm not going to search the internet for you just because you were wrong and can't let it go. But that proves the point I made, about you guys really not caring about the truth at all, you only care about your narrative.

Be honest, do you see a white Democratic candidate getting away with saying that in 2019?

 

[JonesBones]

He was the Democratic President for 8 years, the thought leader of the party and most popular Democrat of the first 20 years of this century (and maybe a lot longer). There's literally no better example than him. I'm not going to search the internet for you just because you were wrong and can't let it go. But that proves the point I made, about you guys really not caring about the truth at all, you only care about your narrative.

Show me an example of a Democratic candidate saying this in the recent past. I'll wait.

 

[JonesBones]

Tylenol 3 without the heroine, is called Tylenol.

These things are all opiates. And there are levels of refinery. To compare Tylenol 3 with heroin is plain stupid. You can't even spell heroin. lol.

 

[nac386]

From 2008...from a Black President...

It's 2019, and if Biden or Bernie said anything remotely close to that, and singled out African American fathers for "acting like boys instead of men", they would be labeled KKK level racists, and their campaigns would be over.

Right, politicians do not accuse entire races of acting like "boys instead of men" because that's an absurd standard to hold them to. What would the reaction be if Barack Obama said that white people were acting like degenerates and overdosing on opioids on a monthly basis by the 10-thousands? The outrage would be endless.

 

[VivaRevolution]

These things are all opiates. And there are levels of refinery. To compare Tylenol 3 with heroin is plain stupid. You can't even spell heroin. lol.

What do you think is done to opium to make heroin?

 

[JonesBones]

What do you think is done to opium to make heroin?

Less potency. It is like saying one aspirin is equal to a whole bottle. Both are equally as bad. Poison depends on dosage. Everything is lethal at high enough doses.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Less potency. It is like saying one aspirin is equal to a whole bottle. Both are equally as bad. Poison depends on dosage. Everything is lethal at high enough doses.

I think it's like comparing an American beer to a German beer.

 

[HereticBD]

Right, politicians do not accuse entire races of acting like "boys instead of men"

Put that same speech in Biden's mouth in 2019. Are you denying that it wouldn't be considered racially insensitive at best, and completely racist at worst?

White Democratic candidates absolutely can not tackle those issues directly. They can not tackle it in any way, that doesn't paint those communities as nothing but victims. That is their only play when talking about problematic AA issues. Anything that resembles holding them accountable for their own actions, will be construed as racism. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it.

 

[nac386]

Put that same speech in Biden's mouth in 2019. Are you denying that it wouldn't be considered racially insensitive at best, and completely racist at worst?

White Democratic candidates absolutely can not tackle those issues directly. They can not tackle it in any way, that doesn't paint those communities as nothing but victims. That is their only play when talking about problematic AA issues. Anything that resembles holding them accountable for their own actions, will be construed as racism. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it.

Of course it would sound different coming from somebody who is not black. Don't you think Trump could get away with saying white people need to stop abusing opioids, while that same sentence coming from Obama would cause WW3? Would Trump ever even do that though? Of course not, that's his base. Obama actually called out his own base.

You guys hold them to different standards. You think white Democrats should be calling out black people, but you'd never make the same statement about white Republicans calling out white people on their issues.

But at least we did have a President who addressed these issues plainly and directly, and he did it throughout his entire Presidency. Those efforts were completely ignored and lied about by the right wing meme factory because it flew in the face of the caricature they painted of Obama.

 

[HereticBD]

Of course it would sound different coming from somebody who is not black.

Not "different", racist. Why? Don't you find it a little problematic that these issues can't be tackled directly by anyone but a black President. Also, that was 2008. I don't see Obama getting away with that kind of a statement today.

But at least we did have a President who addressed these issues plainly and directly, and he did it throughout his entire Presidency.

And do you find it at all problematic that you HAVE to be a black President to address those issues plainly and directly, but for any other race saying the same thing, it's "insensitive" or "racist"?

 

[MFIC]

I pray you're right. The guy is a joke. He registers as a Dem so the Uneducated Crooked Right are quick to attack him and call him a "commie" but the truth is he is a oppressive big money right winger like the rest of them. The only difference between a guy like Biden and Trump are what they call themselves politically. Right wing America conned again and again.

Well if he becomes president, it will be thanks to your buddy Obama

 

[nac386]

Not "different", racist. Why? Don't you find it a little problematic that these issues can't be tackled directly by anyone but a black President. Also, that was 2008. I don't see Obama getting away with that kind of a statement today.

That's just not true. He said something just as scathing about the culture in inner cities in 2019 man. He always said the same things, and the meme-culture ignored it and pushed a phony narrative about him, which was blindly slurped up by undiscerning minds.

This is from 2019:

“A lot of the violence and pain that we suffer in our communities arises out of young men who nobody’s said to them what it means to be respected,” the former two-term president said last week. “So, they’re looking around [and thinking] I guess being respected means ‘I might shoot you. Or I can make you back down.’ ”

Obama, speaking at a My Brother’s Keeper town hall, said, “That is a self-defeating model for being a man. We have to constantly lift up examples of successful men who don’t take that approach. That’s hard to do in this society. You were talking about music.

“Let’s face it. A lot of hip-hop and rap music is built around me showing how I got more money than you. I can disrespect you, and you can’t do nothing about it.”

And do you find it at all problematic that you HAVE to be a black President to address those issues plainly and directly, but for any other race saying the same thing, it's "insensitive" or "racist"?

No more problematic than the fact that you'd have to be a white President to call out white people plainly and directly for issues in their community. Nobody is doing it.

 

[WarDosAnjos]

Well if he becomes president, it will be thanks to your buddy Obama

LMAO. My buddy? When the hell did I ever say I liked Obama? He's the exact same thing as Biden. Policy wise Obama is virtually the same as Trump, only he's black with the middle name Hossein and registers as a Democrat so the right wing calls him a commie. That's literally how little separates the two. All these guys are virtually the same.

 

[AlexDB9]

Biden will 100% be the nominee....he’s going to hilldog his way in and the dems will bend over and take it....again. I mean isn’t this obvious at this point? He’s basically the only one not promising ludicrous shit but will be steamrolled because he’s old, white, and called a black guy a super predator or some shit once in the 90’s

 

[kpt018]

He will be the nominee and all the butthurt progressives will childishly sit at home come election night, and hand the Presidency over to Trump again.

This is exactly what I'm worried about. I hope you're wrong but I wouldn't bet against you.