Why isnt Umar getting better?

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

Umar lost a close fight with merab and after that he hasnt really shown the kind of improvements you would expect after that kind of loss. I admit to being an Umar detractor but the guy is obviously an amazing prospect and id expect him to be coming along in leaps and bounds after a lesson like that. Is he just being mismanaged by his team? Cause if he continues like this, yan is gonna win a bloody and dominant decision off him.

 

[hbombbisping]

Did Figgy even touch him? He just completely dominated a dangerous ex champ who moved up.



Anyway I expect Umar to be champ himself within the year.

 

[Koya]

Not every nurmagomedov is as good as Khabib. Maybe it's just his ceiling.

Also Khabib's camp doesn't strike me as a camp that will make you sort out your flaws. More like it molds you into a specific shape and keep polishing that shape.

Maybe he just doesn't have that special thing like Makhachev and that's it.

 

[NadaRekowski]

I believe he’s just not the same mentality as a Khabib who just bulldozed people or Islam who’s has good killer instinct.

 

[Rubios]

We get to watch him fight for 15' twice a year.
Hard to judge his progress, specially if what he brings to the octagon is enough to win.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Did Figgy even touch him? He just completely dominated a dangerous ex champ who moved up.



Anyway I expect Umar to be champ himself within the year.

I think Yan likely beats him. Will be a fun chess match but I do really want to see it. First it'll be Yan vs O'Malley though, I think the UFC is desperate to get Omalley in the title picture.

 

[Koala]

He reads books, which hinders his development
+ Match-ups make fights, I am not sure at all he will be beaten up by Yan

 

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

Did Figgy even touch him? He just completely dominated a dangerous ex champ who moved up.



Anyway I expect Umar to be champ himself within the year.

figgy barely touched him cause he did almost nothing cause hes a 38 year old man with a ton of miles. on the other end umar barely did anything of consequence on the feet it was mostly bullshit volume to no real effect. especially when youre gunning for a title shot you should at minimum win a dominant decision whether its smothering grappling or a beating but it was sort of a cruise control performance against an old injured fighter who was essentially a punching bag

 

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

Did Figgy even touch him? He just completely dominated a dangerous ex champ who moved up.



Anyway I expect Umar to be champ himself within the year.

also no way umar gets past yan in his current state. umar is awful under pressure, easy to hit to the body, and struggles when he cant scare you with his wrestling. for these reasons yan will excel against him.

 

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

figgy barely touched him cause he did almost nothing cause hes a 38 year old man with a ton of miles. on the other end umar barely did anything of consequence on the feet it was mostly bullshit volume to no real effect. especially when youre gunning for a title shot you should at minimum win a dominant decision whether its smothering grappling or a beating but it was sort of a cruise control performance against an old injured fighter who was essentially a punching bag

umar had to be warned for inactivity on the feet that should tell you what kind of performance it was

 

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

He reads books, which hinders his development
+ Match-ups make fights, I am not sure at all he will be beaten up by Yan

i just think Yan is a bad matchup for umar. he'll pressure umar alot which umar hates, he'll take away his jab, he'll pound umars body (which is a vulnerability of his), he'll punish him in the clinch. yan just does alot of stuff that Umar hates on the feet and has the best takedown defense in the division.

 

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

I think Yan likely beats him. Will be a fun chess match but I do really want to see it. First it'll be Yan vs O'Malley though, I think the UFC is desperate to get Omalley in the title picture.

im so worried omalley is gonna spoil what could be an amazing yan reign. cause omalley is still one of the best strikers in mma tepid first 2 rounds against song aside. and you have to be an amazing wrestler to win a fight against omalley with your wrestling. still that jab of yans changes things alot cause before yan was basically stuck at range getting lit up and now he can actually fight at that range with omalley. still its a very hard fight for yan if omalley shows up in championship form

 

[nostradumbass]

His title fight was a year ago, and he's since beaten 2 ranked guys without losing a round. Was he supposed to suddenly turn into a HW and just pound out a couple 1 minute KO's?

 

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

Not every nurmagomedov is as good as Khabib. Maybe it's just his ceiling.

Also Khabib's camp doesn't strike me as a camp that will make you sort out your flaws. More like it molds you into a specific shape and keep polishing that shape.

Maybe he just doesn't have that special thing like Makhachev and that's it.

that would be a shame

 

[ClinchmasterEdwards93291]

We get to watch him fight for 15' twice a year.
Hard to judge his progress, specially if what he brings to the octagon is enough to win.

yeah they need to be putting him in 5 rounders with elites.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

Not every nurmagomedov is as good as Khabib. Maybe it's just his ceiling.

Also Khabib's camp doesn't strike me as a camp that will make you sort out your flaws. More like it molds you into a specific shape and keep polishing that shape.

Maybe he just doesn't have that special thing like Makhachev and that's it.

Umar is 30, with 20+ pro fights and 5 years/9 fights in the UFC.

He's basically at his peak physically right now and has been training since he was a child. I don't know why people have this expectation that because a few of the greatest fighters of all-time like Islam/Khabib managed to keep getting significantly better at adding new weapons later in their careers that every other high-level fighter can emulate those improvements.

The fact is that most fighters that follow this path (started martial arts at an early age, went pro early, have a decade of fighting with 20+ fights and are around 30) are pretty much capped on their improvements everywhere - they aren't going to get that much better physically, they aren't going to be adding tons of new techniques, they aren't going to be making major adaptations to their style, and so on.

Basically the best the majority can do is make improvements in game-planning and making in-fight reads (i.e. Fight IQ) to better use their weapons against specific opponents style's and tactics. They are essentially just keeping their tools sharp while they get more experienced at dealing with different types of opponents.

Umar is a top contender that was within an inch of winning the BW title against an all-time great in Merab, it's not like he needs to grow by leaps and bounds to be a champion.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Umar lost a close fight with merab and after that he hasnt really shown the kind of improvements you would expect after that kind of loss. I admit to being an Umar detractor but the guy is obviously an amazing prospect and id expect him to be coming along in leaps and bounds after a lesson like that. Is he just being mismanaged by his team? Cause if he continues like this, yan is gonna win a bloody and dominant decision off him.

Some of you guys have Erik Silva goggles when talking about Umar. Probably cause he has a babyface even with the neckbeard. And cause he’s the toungest of the Dagi bunch.
The man is 30… training since since birth.. he is not reinventing himself now.

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

Not every nurmagomedov is as good as Khabib. Maybe it's just his ceiling.

Also Khabib's camp doesn't strike me as a camp that will make you sort out your flaws. More like it molds you into a specific shape and keep polishing that shape.

Maybe he just doesn't have that special thing like Makhachev and that's it.

Islam got starched and came back better. Umar got decisioned and came back by completely man-handling a former champ. He's fine, and this is waaaaay too premature.

Completely agree with your assessment of Khabib's camp, btw.

 

[Shay Brennan]

I think Yan likely beats him. Will be a fun chess match but I do really want to see it. First it'll be Yan vs O'Malley though, I think the UFC is desperate to get Omalley in the title picture.

As it should be.

If Merab is ready soon then make the trilogy if not then Petr should try to avenge that O'Malley loss.
First fight was awesome so now's the time to do 5 rounder.

I just want Petr to stay as active as possible.

Why do you think Umar loses to Yan?

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Not every nurmagomedov is as good as Khabib. Maybe it's just his ceiling.

Also Khabib's camp doesn't strike me as a camp that will make you sort out your flaws. More like it molds you into a specific shape and keep polishing that shape.

Maybe he just doesn't have that special thing like Makhachev and that's it.

I completely disagree with that. Guys from that camp are very different. Khabib was front foot advancing with punches and takedowns. Islam is well rounded with more of an upright plus clinching game. Umar is back footed in and out kick wrestler.