Why is Oliveira getting a pass?

[moosaev]

Just to help you understand.
IVlam has 14 UFC fights, half of them in russia or UAE.

Since this a Charles mocking thread, I will take him for comparison.

He has 32 UFC fights and only 7 of them in Brazil.

You’re so full of shit loool.

Islam has had 14 UFC fights, here’s the location breakdown:

USA - 8
Canada - 1
Australia- 1
Abu Dhabi - 2
Russia - 2

70% of his fights were on the road. Again, this is proof of how Islam gets held to double standards. How many fights has Jon Jones fought outside America? Or Poirier?

 

[Conan the K-9]

You’re so full of shit loool.

How many fights has Jon Jones fought outside America? Or Poirier?

No you are.
Why are you comparing him to the american fighters, when it is an american organization and most of the fights are held there?

Comparison to Volkanovski;
He has the same amount of UFC fights (14) and five of them in Australia or New Zealand (I counted that as home too). And he is a champ with 5 title defences, 7 of his fights are title fights.
There should be levels to that, who gets to fight at home and who not.

 

[Rektkid]

He has 25 profights, 14 fights in the UFC and from all these 7 fights outside of russia or UAE.
Andvantage or not, but let’s stick to the facts. Majority of his fights were not in the US or ”enemy territory”

You and facts? Don't make me laugh! How many UFC fights has he had in AD? You can't even conceal your dislike for Islam and for most muslim fighters for that matter. Try being objective for a change instead of patently coming across as a sore loser.

 

[Rektkid]

No you are.
Why are you comparing him to the american fighters, when it is an american organization and most of the fights are held there?

Comparison to Volkanovski;
He has the same amount of UFC fights (14) and five of them in Australia or New Zealand (I counted that as home too). And he is a champ with 5 title defences, 7 of his fights are title fights.
There should be levels to that, who gets to fight at home and who not.

You don't even make any sense. All you do is make up narratives that suit your bias as you go along. Dude...get laid or something.

 

[moosaev]

No you are.
Why are you comparing him to the american fighters, when it is an american organization and most of the fights are held there?

Comparison to Volkanovski;
He has the same amount of UFC fights (14) and five of them in Australia or New Zealand (I counted that as home too). And he is a champ with 5 title defences, 7 of his fights are title fights.
There should be levels to that, who gets to fight at home and who not.

You blatantly lied about Islam's record just to discredit him, there's no use discussing this further with you. Islam could knockout Jon Jones and you'd find a way to diminish the accomplishment lol.

 

[pv3Hpv3p]

Here we go, pulling out the religion card lol. Typical. We call that projection in psychology.

Ok... the proof is in the pudding

 

[tritestill]

He could have taken the second Volk fight, everyone who knows anything about MMA was able to see Volk can actually compete and wasn't getting murked in the first 2-3 rounds like most other guys but fanboys gonna fanboy and claim that Volk had nothing for Islam which is laughable.

They literally had the interim title fight the same night for Volk to defend next fight.

 

[Conan the K-9]

You blatantly lied about Islam's record just to discredit him, there's no use discussing this further with you. Islam could knockout Jon Jones and you'd find a way to diminish the accomplishment lol.

Sorry, I apologize for that, I have zero problems doing so.
I did not count the Bobby Green fight, as it was not LW and I remembered wrong/ mixed the Moises and Ramos fights, thought they were both in Abu Dhabi.

I have hard time believing that you can’t see the same thing what everyone else sees. You have said your self that, they need to have a muslim star headlining in Abu Dhabi, yearly. Why don’t they have the same thing everywhere else?

edit: Honestly, I feel bad for the Champ, if he sincerely wanted to be active and fight in the summer and they denied him that. They really are not making it easy for him, no change to build a great legacy. A fighter in his prime, should be hungry and active like Volks and he is shelved for sheiks entertainment. Sad.

 

[electricfuneral]

they don't make them like volk anymore

 

[Deleted member 513083]

They literally had the interim title fight the same night for Volk to defend next fight.

Yeah but if Oliveira is undeserving of the titleshot who else should Islam fight?
Dariush coming of a crushing loss?
Poirier/Gaethje winner?
I mean who really is more deserving of a titleshot than Volk or Olives?

 

[fortheo]

Yes, let’s just take Volk’s salty ass team at their word.

You said it, not me. All I did was share the video and say that I'd rather Volk take his time to recover. Islam is too big of a challenge to rush back to after surgery.

 

[fortheo]

At this point, is there any reason for Islam to accept the Volk rematch? If he beats him again people will refer to this FUD from Volk's team and claim he only won because corrupt Arabs paying evil Dana to overlook IVs... He gains nothing... He certainly gained nothing from the first fight , just people criticising him for defending his belt against a FW

I like how people conveniently forget that Islam fought the majority of his career in the US (enemy territory btw) and claim he only makes weight in Abu Dhabi

Insanity or trolling?

I think the only reason is because Islam seems to need an opponent. As I said, Personally, I prefer Volk take his time to recover and fights Topuria. I'd rather see islam fight his division's contenders at the moment.

 

[Oz.Pride]

I’m sure that fantasy keeps you warm at night as you seethe over Khabib’s success lol.

Actually a huge Khabib fan, it's a shame we'll never know since he ran away from the sport like a scared little girl.

 

[Southpoor97]

Exciting fighter. But honestly not sure why people are pushing for Islam rematch so soon after he got blown out of the water. He's won one fight since then, looked good but there's plenty others to give a shot to. Maybe if the fight wasn't so one sided, but he needs to beat another grappler first to earn it.

Who else has earned the shot? Volk is only person I can think of

 

[maximus__]

Islam literally just fought in Australia, which is as far off and inconvenient place anyone can fight….it’s asinine to suggest he won’t ever fight outside Abu Dhabi again.

It's just my personal opinion on an internet forum. I actually believe the IV allegations, but I believe that it was used under the mistaken belief that it was as per the supposed allowable amounts. Abu dhabi is a safe space for Islam. The UFC ran the commission effectively until this year. They don't want their champ getting suspended under USADA for a little bit of IV fluid.
Islam has effectively said he is on his way out. After the trip to Australia, I think he will hold out to fight there with Russia or Dagestan not being an option.

 

[HHJ]

It's just my personal opinion on an internet forum. I actually believe the IV allegations, but I believe that it was used under the mistaken belief that it was as per the supposed allowable amounts. Abu dhabi is a safe space for Islam. The UFC ran the commission effectively until this year. They don't want their champ getting suspended under USADA for a little bit of IV fluid.
Islam has effectively said he is on his way out. After the trip to Australia, I think he will hold out to fight there with Russia or Dagestan not being an option.

I dont think he cares bro. He said he wanted to fight earlier,but its UFC that wanted him to fight in Abu Dhabi so he has to wait. Guy has alot of troubles to get fights,so I dont think hes that selective about that.

 

[Conan the K-9]

It's just my personal opinion on an internet forum. I actually believe the IV allegations, but I believe that it was used under the mistaken belief that it was as per the supposed allowable amounts. Abu dhabi is a safe space for Islam. The UFC ran the commission effectively until this year. They don't want their champ getting suspended under USADA for a little bit of IV fluid.
Islam has effectively said he is on his way out. After the trip to Australia, I think he will hold out to fight there with Russia or Dagestan not being an option.

I believe that too. I think the UFC must know how hard the weight cut for him is, and he can’t perform at his best, if he does that regularly and without cheating with IVs. Maybe, he is even silently suspended or has some medical/health issues at the moment?
Volks landed some good shots on his chest. Maybe he has some trouble with his Meldonium powered heart again?

There is no way the UFC would shelve a champ in his prime, if he really insisted to stay active and they would be sure that he can do the weight cut and stay healthy. When at the same time they are forcing other champs to take fights in much more faster scedule (Aljo), or let them do what ever they want (Volks). They don’t want him to get hospitalized like his cousin, that is a bad look.

I think he has one fight left in him at LW, max 2. But just in Abu Dhabi.
Then if he dares, he get’s an undeserved WW titleshot. Depending who the champion is at the moment. Or his mother forces him to retire. You heard it here first.

And for all dagi fangirls, this is my personal opinion in the internet too, so no need to rant if you don’t agree.

 

[fortheo]

Has gaethje commented about whether he'd be willing to fight Islam in abu dhabi if he beats dustin?

 

[Strijfy]

Actually a huge Khabib fan, it's a shame we'll never know since he ran away from the sport like a scared little girl.

no, you arent a fan if thats your take on it as you would know better

 

[moosaev]

I believe that too. I think the UFC must know how hard the weight cut for him is, and he can’t perform at his best, if he does that regularly and without cheating with IVs. Maybe, he is even silently suspended or has some medical/health issues at the moment?
Volks landed some good shots on his chest. Maybe he has some trouble with his Meldonium powered heart again?

There is no way the UFC would shelve a champ in his prime, if he really insisted to stay active and they would be sure that he can do the weight cut and stay healthy. When at the same time they are forcing other champs to take fights in much more faster scedule (Aljo), or let them do what ever they want (Volks). They don’t want him to get hospitalized like his cousin, that is a bad look.

I think he has one fight left in him at LW, max 2. But just in Abu Dhabi.
Then if he dares, he get’s an undeserved WW titleshot. Depending who the champion is at the moment. Or his mother forces him to retire. You heard it here first.

And for all dagi fangirls, this is my personal opinion in the internet too, so no need to rant if you don’t agree.

Oliveira has 2 fights this year: Two fights is normal, he needs rest.

islam has 2 fights this year: why would the ufc shelve islam? He must be suspended medically, or the UFC is saving him from weight cutting.

Lmaooo. You guys are clowns. You have a million excuses for Oliveira but for Islam everything’s a conspiracy. At this point I’m pretty sure you’re just trolling, you can’t be serious about the shit you say.