Why is Oliveira getting a pass?

[Dana's Moonface]

He'd beat the shit out of Khabib as well imo

 

[HHJ]

i think charles can do it, maybe 2 out of 10 times. but i do believe his chances drop significantly in abu dhabi.

Meh

I mean like I said Volk would fight Islam in Dagestan. He wouldnt give two fucks.

 

[Aurelian]

It's his career and he says he's not ready and is willing to wait if he has too. It's not really a big deal why. Islam will fight the winner of Gaethje/Poirier or probably Michael Chandler and life keeps going.

 

[pv3Hpv3p]

Honestly, Oliveira always gets the velvet glove treatment from fans, quite impressive.

Doesn't he have the most finishes in UFC history?

That might have something to do with it?

Not everyone cheers for fighters solely because of where they're from or who they pray to.

 

[moosaev]

Doesn't he have the most finishes in UFC history?

That might have something to do with it?

Not everyone cheers for fighters solely because of where they're from or who they pray to.

Here we go, pulling out the religion card lol. Typical. We call that projection in psychology.

 

[Barteh]

Honestly, Oliveira always gets the velvet glove treatment from fans, quite impressive.

Having the most sub wins in UFC history and being an all around entertaining fighter whether he wins or loses goes a long way in accomplishing that.

 

[Ladder Master]

Same reason he gets a pass for missing weight several times and being finished 8 times in his career.

Missed weight several times?

He is the record holder for most weight misses in the UFC.

 

[moosaev]

Having the most sub wins in UFC history and being an all around entertaining fighter whether he wins or loses goes a long way in accomplishing that.

True, but that’s an explanation not an excuse. He should be held to the same standards as other champs/ex-champs/contenders.

 

[fortheo]

Ah, oh no, Charles is a legend and so likeable but it's clear he's exposing the double standards by all his toxic nut riders. Dare Islam behave in such a manner, they would be shouting from the rooftops calling for him to get stripped. His nationality and religion would probably get dragged into it too.

In what manner?

 

[don't ask]

Oliveira fought a total of 3 minutes this year and took no damage, but he's saying Oct is not enough time to fight Islam?

Meanwhile Volk is injured and is getting surgery and he says he's ready to fight Islam in Oct.

Can we stop with the "champ has a name" bullshit now?

I'm not going to shit on Oliveira for taking the time to develop and train a gameplan to beat Islam instead of rushing back into another loss.

What kind of idiot would fault him for that?

 

[Psychojoe86]

Oliveira already fought Islam and lost. He has to be careful taking this rematch, it’s gonna be the most important fight of his life.

I don’t see why you gotta hate on him, but I guess that’s yer opinion

 

[moosaev]

I'm not going to shit on Oliveira for taking the time to develop and train a gameplan to beat Islam instead of rushing back into another loss.

What kind of idiot would fault him for that?

That’s exactly the point, EVERYBODY would fault islam for this it the shoe we’re on the other foot. Oliveira is always given maximium deference, which other fighter gets this?

 

[don't ask]

That’s exactly the point, EVERYBODY would fault islam for this it the shoe we’re on the other foot. Oliveira is always given maximium deference, which other fighter gets this?

Islam isn't in a situation where he has to find a way to win, is he?

Either way, I can only speak for me and I only shit on fighters for not fighting when they rank squat, like Colby.

 

[old school 2]

Oliveira fought a total of 3 minutes this year and took no damage, but he's saying Oct is not enough time to fight Islam?

Meanwhile Volk is injured and is getting surgery and he says he's ready to fight Islam in Oct.

Can we stop with the "champ has a name" bullshit now?

Champ does have a name and it’s Islam.

 

[old school 2]

Islam has only fought 1 top 5 , he has 4 more options before fighting the same guy again.

 

[stacrafty]

Sounds like you need a hug lol

sorry shouldn't have asked you to back up what you say, just stick to "luke thomas said" like a good red belt shertard

 

[PulsingJones]

Islam and Khabib are muslims

Charles, Dariush are christians

Make no mistake, it's about religion and ethnicity, even if they try to disguise it under "they're boring!", "pull out merchants!" or "weight bullies!"

If you're casual and read Sherdog you'd think Islam missed weight multiple times, when in fact he hasn't missed weight once. Meanwhile Oliveira missed like 5 times.

It's a reminder that Sherdog (and other English MMA communities) are predominantly Christian... Their views on Muslim fighters shouldn't be taken too seriously as it's obviously mired in bias and prejudice, even if they try to pretend otherwise.

 

[tritestill]

Fair point but it is not like Islam or dagis are known to take unfavorable fights.
After yesterday would rather see Islam Volk 2 but Charles cleared out the division it is hard to deny him a shot and Islam fights every 6 months or so. I just hope we can see the rematch even though Islam takes it probably.

Islam wants to get booked more, not his fault UFC wants him on certain card in certain place.

 

[balkanbomber85]

Islam and Khabib are muslims

Charles, Dariush are christians

Make no mistake, it's about religion and ethnicity, even if they try to disguise

Religion was never a topic or issue in martial arts because it was always about fighting and violence UNTIL we got the Kabib troll brigade which only came here because of the one thing you mention. It was never about who is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jew or whatever but who is the most entertaining, most brutal, most technical. It was the Kabib troll brigade which added the new criteria for liking or disliking someone, Religion.

 

[par6597]

Islam and Khabib are muslims

Charles, Dariush are christians

Make no mistake, it's about religion and ethnicity, even if they try to disguise it under "they're boring!", "pull out merchants!" or "weight bullies!"

If you're casual and read Sherdog you'd think Islam missed weight multiple times, when in fact he hasn't missed weight once. Meanwhile Oliveira missed like 5 times.

It's a reminder that Sherdog (and other English MMA communities) are predominantly Christian... Their views on Muslim fighters shouldn't be taken too seriously as it's obviously mired in bias and prejudice, even if they try to pretend otherwise.

this is maybe true for very few guys here but I honestly think that it's mainly conor and tony (where are they now?) fans still being sour

and people who do find their style boring, which i don't understand why they even watch MMA because there are Kick, Thai, and regular Boxing Events where the striking is so much better than MMA, the striking in MMA is quite embarrassing compared to them and you have to quite inexperienced with these other sports to solely want that in the UFC

Religion was never a topic or issue in martial arts because it was always about fighting and violence UNTIL we got the Kabib troll brigade which only came here because of the one thing you mention. It was never about who is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jew or whatever but who is the most entertaining, most brutal, most technical. It was the Kabib troll brigade which added the new criteria for liking or disliking someone, Religion.

I actually agree with this, the sport is worse off for bringing in the religious tards, since we already had the dumb nationalist losers whose whole identity is based on something they had zero choice in (like many Brazilian fans)