Why is legitimate Existential Crisis confused with depression ?

[Guestx]

Cuz op is utterly pathetic and if he's truly bored at life it really is his fault.

Don't like trivialties? Then go do something that you think is worthwhile, you crybabies.

Damn.

I don't know that I've ever used the phrase "miserable human" until right now. But that's what you strike me as.

 

[Flemmy Stardust]

I actually understand what the OP is saying. Those who don't just don't get it. Being amused by trivialities doesn't mean you aren't exactly that . . . amused by trivialities.

His questions are legitimate: Why are we here? What's the purpose? What's the meaning?

I ask them, too.

I stopped asking. It's not important unless it becomes important. What's invaluable is that you get to experience THE ONLY thing in this universe that matters for sure, and that's consciousness. It could have gone the other way.

It's nothing short of narcissism to expect that all of this boils down to what you do in your life. What offering is going to eradicate one's nihilism short of "you will be acknowledged and cherished. " It is the very catalyst for religion. 'Your thirst can be quenched.'

 

[Leklok]

Damn.

I don't know that I've ever used the phrase "miserable human" until right now. But that's what you strike me as.

I'll take misery over self pity any day

 

[Guestx]

I stopped asking. It's not important unless it becomes important. What's invaluable is that you get to experience THE ONLY thing in this universe that matters for sure, and that's consciousness. It could have gone the other way.

It's nothing short of narcissism to expect that all of this boils down to what you do in your life. What offering is going to eradicate one's nihilism short of "you will be acknowledged and cherished. " It is the very catalyst for religion. 'Your thirst can be quenched.'

So you're so enamored with experiencing consciousness that you don't despair that your existence means nothing and once you die it's just ashes to ashes, dust to dust?

 

[Guestx]

I'll take misery over self pity any day

If someone gets shot should they be concerned or should they just walk it off?

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Don't like trivialties? Then go do something that you think is worthwhile, you crybabies.

Nothings worth while... nothing

 

[BigInJapan]

Nothings worth while... nothing

And this is what you have to accept as a human

 

[M3t4tr0n]

And this is what you have to accept as a human

Yes, embrace the void.

 

[Guestx]

And this is what you have to accept as a human

There are plenty of people who don't accept this. Religious people don't.

 

[thoughtsone]

So you're so enamored with experiencing consciousness that you don't despair that your existence means nothing and once you die it's just ashes to ashes, dust to dust?

Why would it matter? When you are dead you are dead. In the end its likely the mark we leave on humanity that may or may not matter, but in the very end, nothing matters, it all ends and thats that. Being upset with that is fine, but refusing to enjoy consciousness because maybe your existence means nothing is silly to me. Your existence is YOUR existence, and when its over, its over...why would you let that take away from what you are experiancing now? Since this is likely all that you will ever know (this current consciousness and thats it), anything afterword literally WONT EXIST, you wont be.

 

[thoughtsone]

There are plenty of people who don't accept this. Religious people don't.

Because again they can't accept being a good person without a reward system, or a higher purpose is just as noble as doing it for a god. Again its all a human construct to try and make abstract sense of something that just is pretty self explanatory.

 

[BigInJapan]

There are plenty of people who don't accept this. Religious people don't.

That's why religious people are dumb.

 

[Guestx]

Why would it matter? When you are dead you are dead. In the end its likely the mark we leave on humanity that may or may not matter, but in the very end, nothing matters, it all ends and thats that. Being upset with that is fine, but refusing to enjoy consciousness because maybe your existence means nothing is silly to me. Your existence is YOUR existence, and when its over, its over...why would you let that take away from what you are experiancing now? Since this is likely all that you will ever know (this current consciousness and thats it), anything afterword literally WONT EXIST, you wont be.

I think this is one of those things that if you don't think along those wavelengths, you just don't understand the feeling. You say "why would it matter?" The only way to describe why it would matter would be to have you experience why. Trying to put it into words just doesn't work, but I can tell you that I have personally felt like: What does any accomplishment mean if I don't continue on? Even if I reach the heights of power, prestige, charity and artistry, what does any of that matter if I am simply snuffed out in a handful of years?

 

[Guestx]

Because again they can't accept being a good person without a reward system, or a higher purpose is just as noble as doing it for a god. Again its all a human construct to try and make abstract sense of something that just is pretty self explanatory.

That's why religious people are dumb.

There are logical, coherent reasons for believing in a god.

To be clear, I personally am an agnostic. But the reason I am agnostic instead of atheistic is because I think belief in god can be rationally justified.

 

[Flemmy Stardust]

So you're so enamored with experiencing consciousness that you don't despair that your existence means nothing and once you die it's just ashes to ashes, dust to dust?

You were blessed with life and consciousness to begin with.

What's the alternative?

No. I don't despair that life is meaningless because i find meaning in it every day. My nieces and nephews, every smile i put on their faces is meaning enough. Making memories with friends. Hearing great music. Being in love. All of it. It's pretty fucking cool that you get to do any of it, mang.

 

[Guestx]

You were blessed with life and consciousness to begin with.

What's the alternative?

No. I don't despair that life is meaningless because i find meaning in it every day. My nieces and nephews, every smile i put on their faces is meaning enough. Making memories with friends. Hearing great music. Being in love. All of it. It's pretty fucking cool that you get to do any of it, mang.

I feel like your viewpoint is legitimate and justified. I just also think that the alternative viewpoint--that of despair at the meaningless of it all--is equally valid.

 

[thoughtsone]

I think this is one of those things that if you don't think along those wavelengths, you just don't understand the feeling. You say "why would it matter?" The only way to describe why it would matter would be to have you experience why. Trying to put it into words just doesn't work, but I can tell you that I have personally felt like: What does any accomplishment mean if I don't continue on? Even if I reach the heights of power, prestige, charity and artistry, what does any of that matter if I am simply snuffed out in a handful of years?

No I do get what you are saying, I have thought that way, but felt truly at peace when I realized there is no external to this, it simply is, and when I am gone I will not exist, this made me appreciate the now. The now is all that is, so it is best for me, to live as such and work towards things I can accomplish or pass forward to others that I believe in. It matters not if I can be snuffed out or am wiped away as sand, because I am now, and that alone is the reason to exist and enjoy or create purpose, simply because we have the chance to exist.

The search will never satisfy you, but I am not saying to stop looking. Accepting this is all there is, and marveling at the greatness of this, and how truly extraordinary simply living is, compared to not existing, that alone should be eye opening. The ego in you drives your questions, but again, the mundane things like breathing, seeing, feeling, being, should be cherished because the alternative to this is not existing and then well you wouldnt have those questions at all because...you wouldnt be.


To despair at the meaninglessness of it all is to miss the point.

 

[Curly Peibce]

We're all fleas on a mudball it's pretentious for you to contemplate the meaning of life, and you most likely need to jerk off more to alevate the tension headaches you mentioned.

 

[thoughtsone]

There are logical, coherent reasons for believing in a god.

To be clear, I personally am an agnostic. But the reason I am agnostic instead of atheistic is because I think belief in god can be rationally justified.

A God, as in a being of greater power than yourself? Sure. A more advanced intelligence? Sure. God = Universe as we are all part of the same experience and materials? Sure. A god that gives moral guidelines and a reward/punishment system, that you will only see when you are dead? Absolutely not.

 

[Flemmy Stardust]

Because again they can't accept being a good person without a reward system, or a higher purpose is just as noble as doing it for a god. Again its all a human construct to try and make abstract sense of something that just is pretty self explanatory.

It's the dirty secret of the religious. They are not moral to be moral. There's a pot of gold at the end for them. It defeats it's own purpose.