Why is Dana throwing a tantrum over Merab/Aljo?

[Nabs]

Vera is outside the top 5 and just lost to Sandhagen a few months ago. There's multiple contenders ahead of him, including the guy who just beat him.

I agree, but we know the UFC is not really a meritocracy. Plus Sandman just had one of the biggest snoozefest of the year. Vera's last fight wasn't the most exciting, but it def was a good fight/win. Merab def deserves the next shot, but business wise, Vera just makes the most sense.

Unless Merab wants to wait, you can do him vs Cejudo and Aljo vs Sandman 2 while Vera and Sean settle their beef.

 

[maximus__]

O'Malley still hasn't fought most of the top guys in the division. They can still book him vs guys like Sandhagen and it would be perfectly reasonable and Mareb/Aljo wouldn't slow that down at all.

That's the entire issue. Merab and Aljo are claiming to be next no matter what.The entire issue is Merab wants to sit out whilst Aljo gets a rematch. Merab should get the next shot, but it's complicated by the fact that he won't fight Aljo. If Merab wins, Aljo most likely won't fight him, he might go up or he might stay at 135 as he already said he was going up no matter what. If Aljo gets the shot and wins, Merab won't fight him and we end up with no champ if Aljo vacates.

It's going to put the division on hold in some way for most of next year. The only reason Vera got a mention is the history and that Sandhagen is also injured.

The best should fight the best, not refuse to fight each other.

 

[maximus__]

Vera is outside the top 5 and just lost to Sandhagen a few months ago. There's multiple contenders ahead of him, including the guy who just beat him.

Sandhagen ruptured his tricep. He is out for ages.

 

[maximus__]

Nope NOPE NOPE.
if they do the rematch aljo wins redeems his title then moves up in exchange to fight Volk, like originally planned.
OR pay aljo to MOVE UP and say if he gets a win he gets first crack at title....YOU SEE NOT SO HARD. but the problem is
will dana PAY aljo...... lets call it what it is suga sean is their cash cow

Aljo will not go up to 145 and fight Volk. He already made a comment on this after losing to O'malley.He doesn't stand a chance. That fight is completely gone for Aljo, if he goes up even with the belt, he can work his way through the top 5 after vacating.

If Aljo reclaims he will defend the 135lb in a rematch vs O'malley, whilst Merab languishes on the side waiting for his shot.

 

[maximus__]

I literally just posted that Merab's hand surgery was minor and he won't be out for long and that Aljo can fight either by the end of the year or early next year. Do you read the posts you reply to? There's also Vera who has a win over O'malley. Sandhagen and Cejudo are other options, there is no hold up, there's plenty of top 5 and top 10 guys O'malley hasn't fought.

Here's an article from May 31st stating that Merab will be ready to fight as early as 3 months later.

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/37767672/ufc-merab-dvalishvili-hand-surgery-3-4-months

Merab can fight this year easily, Aljo likely could fight by December or January if he wants to rest a bit.

As you said that puts us looking at someone fighting for the belt sometime next year. Either Merab gets a shot and we squeek in towards the end of the year or Aljo gets it and takes the time to recover and run a full camp and it's early next year.

That's all without taking O'malley into account who just sat out for most of a year to prep for Aljo.

 

[WokeWarrior]

Aljo will not go up to 145 and fight Volk. He already made a comment on this after losing to O'malley.He doesn't stand a chance. That fight is completely gone for Aljo, if he goes up even with the belt, he can work his way through the top 5 after vacating.

If Aljo reclaims he will defend the 135lb in a rematch vs O'malley, whilst Merab languishes on the side waiting for his shot.

NOPE NOPE NOPE aljo himself said hes going up, see you guys play these games to push narratives on people...but aljo is NOT
COLBY Sean Strickland etc etc. he will stay true to his word. Remember THE UFC RUSHED HIM and refusing to job for
dana COMES WITH CONSEQUENCES. thats why what francis did was GOATish. that action right there will FOREVER MAKE FRANCIS
A PIONEER. you might not of liked it as most of yall DID, but your grandchildren will adore francis. for that.

anyway ALJO dont have to work his way through nothing HES A DEFENDING CHAMP. you just dont want to see him win, lets call it what it is.
You see how i know Theres a target on certain fighters is NOTHING never comes out yall mouths that is ever favorable for them.
aljo just needs ONE WIN or if you really wanna make aljo happy give him an instant title shot with MONEY. that way aljo leaves teh 135.
but again this hazing of certain fighters who aint down with the good boy club has got to go.

 

[cade187]

Title: Dana throwing a tantrum.

Content: Aljo/Merab asking for title shots.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

As you said that puts us looking at someone fighting for the belt sometime next year. Either Merab gets a shot and we squeek in towards the end of the year or Aljo gets it and takes the time to recover and run a full camp and it's early next year.

That's all without taking O'malley into account who just sat out for most of a year to prep for Aljo.

O'malley probably isn't fighting till November/December at the earliest anyways and the odds he doesn't fight again this year are pretty high regardless of who the UFC offers him. This idea that Aljo and Merab not fighting each other is holding up the division is only in your head. I don't get where you are getting this idea from.

Merab is ready to fight in November/December, his hand surgery was 3 months ago and his manager said he would be ready to fight in 3-4 months, do the math, he's ready to fight this year and O'malley likely isn't fighting again this year till November/December when Merab will be ready anyway. There is no hold up.

 

[NoSmilez]

The issue is that they aren't going to fight each other. Merab is still out. Aljo wins the belt again then they have to find another challenger. I don't think the promotion likes him that much.

 

[krelianx]

Already addressed. If Aljo wins he's moving up to featherweight. If Merab wins Aljo is moving up.

Why in the living fuck would the UFC give a shot to someone who will relinquish the title upon victory?

 

[maximus__]

NOPE NOPE NOPE aljo himself said hes going up, see you guys play these games to push narratives on people...but aljo is NOT
COLBY Sean Strickland etc etc. he will stay true to his word. Remember THE UFC RUSHED HIM and refusing to job for
dana COMES WITH CONSEQUENCES. thats why what francis did was GOATish. that action right there will FOREVER MAKE FRANCIS
A PIONEER. you might not of liked it as most of yall DID, but your grandchildren will adore francis. for that.

anyway ALJO dont have to work his way through nothing HES A DEFENDING CHAMP. you just dont want to see him win, lets call it what it is.
You see how i know Theres a target on certain fighters is NOTHING never comes out yall mouths that is ever favorable for them.
aljo just needs ONE WIN or if you really wanna make aljo happy give him an instant title shot with MONEY. that way aljo leaves teh 135.
but again this hazing of certain fighters who aint down with the good boy club has got to go.

I see why you have double yellows. It hurts my eyes to read what you type.

Aljo was moving up after CCC but stayed again because he thought O'malley was an easy fight. Now he lost and destroyed his own legacy. He knows he won't be successful at 145 now and won't go anywhere near them. The Volk fight is dead for him.

The thread is about Merab and Aljo not fighting. Talking about it is the entire topic.It's not throwing shade, it's an opinion on this thread.

 

[maximus__]

Why in the living fuck would the UFC give a shot to someone who will relinquish the title upon victory?

This. At best we get a trilogy with O;'malley. Whilst Merab just sits on the sidelines and expects to walk into a title shot 12 months from now.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

That's the entire issue. Merab and Aljo are claiming to be next no matter what.The entire issue is Merab wants to sit out whilst Aljo gets a rematch. Merab should get the next shot, but it's complicated by the fact that he won't fight Aljo. If Merab wins, Aljo most likely won't fight him, he might go up or he might stay at 135 as he already said he was going up no matter what. If Aljo gets the shot and wins, Merab won't fight him and we end up with no champ if Aljo vacates.

It's going to put the division on hold in some way for most of next year. The only reason Vera got a mention is the history and that Sandhagen is also injured.

The best should fight the best, not refuse to fight each other.

That doesn't really stall anything though.

For one, just because they claim next doesn't mean they get next. The UFC decides ultimately.

Next, if Aljo gets his rematch then Dana can still tell Merab to fight or he will get dropped down in his ranking. They can easily justify him fighting Cejudo or Corey. It's still money for him to fight.

If Aljo wins he will likely vacate regardless (or maybe they will have a rubber match). If he loses, then O'Malley would just fight Merab or anyone who has beaten him (or could just bypass him, it's not like the UFC hasn't done that before).

Bantamweight is a pretty open division. I don't think Sterling and Merab really lock the division out. It isn't anything like WW because other than Aljo/Merab BW is incredibly open with fighters fighting each other. Guys from different ranks and name values consistently fight each other.

 

[maximus__]

O'malley probably isn't fighting till November/December at the earliest anyways and the odds he doesn't fight again this year are pretty high regardless of who the UFC offers him. This idea that Aljo and Merab not fighting each other is holding up the division is only in your head. I don't get where you are getting this idea from.

Merab is ready to fight in November/December, his hand surgery was 3 months ago and his manager said he would be ready to fight in 3-4 months, do the math, he's ready to fight this year and O'malley likely isn't fighting again this year till November/December when Merab will be ready anyway. There is no hold up.

Because we have a triangle of champion and title challengers with 2 of those people refusing to fight each other. I don't get what is hard to understand about it.

It means we end up with someone like Vera actually having a legit claim to a shot because of everyone elses position and injuries etc. The refusal of 2 top 5 guys fighting is a major issue in any division. It's not an issue today, but what happens when Aljo wins the belt again? We end up with no champion if he vacates or Merab just sits there doing nothing.

If Merab and Aljo won't fight, someone has to lose their shot to keep the division moving. If Merab wants to wait for Aljo, he can fight someone else. Give him Nurmagomedov and I have no issue with him sitting because then we create another contender by that name on Merab's resume or Merab loses and someone willing to fight jumps into the top 5.

 

[maximus__]

That doesn't really stall anything though.

For one, just because they claim next doesn't mean they get next. The UFC decides ultimately.

Next, if Aljo gets his rematch then Dana can still tell Merab to fight or he will get dropped down in his ranking. They can easily justify him fighting Cejudo or Corey. It's still money for him to fight.

If Aljo wins he will likely vacate regardless (or maybe they will have a rubber match). If he loses, then O'Malley would just fight Merab or anyone who has beaten him (or could just bypass him, it's not like the UFC hasn't done that before).

Bantamweight is a pretty open division. I don't think Sterling and Merab really lock the division out. It isn't anything like WW because other than Aljo/Merab BW is incredibly open with fighters fighting each other. Guys from different ranks and name values consistently fight each other.

So why do we reward these two refusing to fight with top spots, but everyone else has to fight each other? All these fighters train together at various points in their careers.

Everything you just said puts everybody elses career on hold so these guys don't have to ever fight.

I think Merab should get a title shot, but if he says no and waits for Aljo, he can fight someone outside the top 5 for his spot.

If either Merab or Sterling win against O'malley, then we have the next contender not willing to fight the champ. Sterling won't move up IMO.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Because we have a triangle of champion and title challengers with 2 of those people refusing to fight each other. I don't get what is hard to understand about it.

It means we end up with someone like Vera actually having a legit claim to a shot because of everyone elses position and injuries etc. The refusal of 2 top 5 guys fighting is a major issue in any division. It's not an issue today, but what happens when Aljo wins the belt again? We end up with no champion if he vacates or Merab just sits there doing nothing.

If Merab and Aljo won't fight, someone has to lose their shot to keep the division moving. If Merab wants to wait for Aljo, he can fight someone else. Give him Nurmagomedov and I have no issue with him sitting because then we create another contender by that name on Merab's resume or Merab loses and someone willing to fight jumps into the top 5.

Dude, your hopeless. They have both been in the top 10 for a while now and it hasn't been an issue and I don't see it being an issue in the next 1-2 years either. Give Merab the title shot if O'malley plans on fighting this year, if not and they want to do the rematch then do that and whoever doesn't get the title shot will risk someone else fighting again and winning and getting the next shot after that. Either way there is no hold up in terms of the champion having to wait for a contender.

 

[ChimRichalds]

I just don't understand why Aljo is in the conversation for a rematch. He's going to end up moving up anyways, what's the point of it? If he wins he probably vacates, so just give the fight to Merab. Sandhagen can fight the winner, and do Cejudo/Vera in the meantime.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

That doesn't really stall anything though.

For one, just because they claim next doesn't mean they get next. The UFC decides ultimately.

Next, if Aljo gets his rematch then Dana can still tell Merab to fight or he will get dropped down in his ranking. They can easily justify him fighting Cejudo or Corey. It's still money for him to fight.

If Aljo wins he will likely vacate regardless (or maybe they will have a rubber match). If he loses, then O'Malley would just fight Merab or anyone who has beaten him (or could just bypass him, it's not like the UFC hasn't done that before).

Bantamweight is a pretty open division. I don't think Sterling and Merab really lock the division out. It isn't anything like WW because other than Aljo/Merab BW is incredibly open with fighters fighting each other. Guys from different ranks and name values consistently fight each other.

Exactly, he hasn't said anything that makes sense in relation to his claim that they are holding up the division. All the best BWs are constantly fighting each other.

 

[WokeWarrior]

I just don't understand why Aljo is in the conversation for a rematch. He's going to end up moving up anyways, what's the point of it? If he wins he probably vacates, so just give the fight to Merab. Sandhagen can fight the winner, and do Cejudo/Vera in the meantime.

Its for legacy plus hes aware how hateful and trollish you guys are. its bad enough you guys thought he was a fluke champion,
Now he has to prove to you all what he can really do. Its yall fault actually. maybe had yall treated him with more respect he'd be
satisfied in moving up BUT NOPE. he suffered from a low self esteem growing up and yall made it worse.

but like i said PAY ALJO and i bet my savings he will move up. he dont even gotta get a title shot just pay him like what they just
paid to go up. thats the cost of doing business. Yall cant have it both ways you cant discredit a person then get irritated when they
want a rematch. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO ONE, and you all know it. he beat former double champ Olympian wrestler, TJ DILLASHAW and Yan =
title shot rematch.

 

[WokeWarrior]

Why in the living fuck would the UFC give a shot to someone who will relinquish the title upon victory?

Cause smarty pants that would allow suga sean to challenge for it ONCE MORE even if he loses the rematch.

yall are purposely making this harder than what it needs to be...