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Why is Aldo often considered as one of the five best all time fighters and Cruz not?

Dom is always underrated. The TJ fight was Cruz coming off a long injury, by then he was not the same fighter as he was before that. His streak from the Faber loss up untill the TJ fight is actually really good, beating top guys from that time in Faber, Benevidez and Mighty Mouse.

Although Aldo is also clearly one of the best ever, Cruz should be included in the conversation but I'm not sure if I'd rank him above Aldo. I mean his streak was pretty special too.
 
Imagine passing off a metric like this as something that is not crucial to the legacy of a championship-caliber fighter.
Haha imagine ignoring something like title defences, when the best recent title defence record at 145 is 5.

Name a modern champion that has racked up more than 5 defences.
That's ignoring the fact that Aldo went on to have major success at 135 and likely would have beaten both TJ and Cruz in their primes, if he fought them both in his prime and currently.
He is a nightmare for Cruz in particular.
 
I honestly can't see any arguments to put Aldo as a superior fighter than Cruz unless you resort to the simplistic criterion of amount of title defenses

We can agree Aldo has a better striking for a by a small margin but Cruz has a better wrestling for a big margin

Aldo is a little bit better striker. Cruz is a much better grappler
Maybe Aldo has better punch but how many victories he has by KO punch?

Unpopular opinion: Both Cruz and TJ were better fighters than Aldo
I think it should be more along the lines of “Cruz had skills equal to or better than Aldo’s in my opinion”. An argument could possibly be made there, if that’s your take.

But to be top 5, you have to have a champion mindset (longevity), numbers (of title defenses for ex.) that dwarf anyone else, quality of competition AND of course the skills without which none of this is possible anyway.

Charisma, highlight reels, overcoming hurdles, etc. also add to the top 5 potential.

For all those reasons, there are other fighters ahead of Dom (including Aldo) in most people’s all-time top 5.
 
Aldo's main skill was his devastating leg kicks
Cruz's was his footwork
Fight fans prefer fight skills
 
Because injuries

Cruz lost a good time of his career because of that

Also, there’s still a small chance of them facing each other
 
aldo's a fighter and had so many sick fights along with a wicked run. cruz coulda been good if he wasn't always injured or being a commentator. though he's a good commentator maybe,
 
It's because at the time we all thought that TJ beat Cruz and was the better fighter, where as Aldo didn't have a close 2nd during his prime

Aldo was remembered as the more invincible fighter during his peak/prime with no one close, where as Cruz had closer fights and definitely wasn't better than TJ
Weird to say he definitely wasn’t better than TJ; he definitely was and beat TJ after injuries and arguably out of prime.
 
Because Cruz is the most overrated fighter out there. He has a GREAT win over Silly Dilly in a controversial decision. The rest of his resume is not that deep other than beating Faber.

Aldo was much more dominant and he would beat the shit out of Cruz if the UFC put that fight together. His longevity also sets him apart from Cruz.

Also Cruz is the worst commentarist.. nothing to do with anything but I'm glad I get to see UFC with latinamerican commentary team.. Cruz fucking sucks and DC sucks too.
 
Because Cruz is the most overrated fighter out there. He has a GREAT win over Silly Dilly in a controversial decision. The rest of his resume is not that deep other than beating Faber.

Aldo was much more dominant and he would beat the shit out of Cruz if the UFC put that fight together. His longevity also sets him apart from Cruz.

Also Cruz is the worst commentarist.. nothing to do with anything but I'm glad I get to see UFC with latinamerican commentary team.. Cruz fucking sucks and DC sucks too.
he's also beating joe b x2, faber x2, Bowles, DJ, Ian mccall, jorgenson, all good wins with context applied.

TJ was the cherry on top he started his career at 22-1 with his only loss being to faber which he avenged. I 100% think Cruz should be ranked a head of khabib or something who I dont have as a top 15. Cruz is somewhere like 8-12
 
Cruz was one of those fighters who became elite seemingly more for style than skill.

At a basic level, fighting can be skill vs skill, but there are approaches fighters take to limit their opponents ability to use their skills. The most common is wrestling, and that's often why we see arguments about "better fighters losing." Dom was pretty unique in that, although he was good at wrestling, that wasn't how he shut down his opponents skills.

The problem with this approach is that when you meet an opponent where your approach  doesn't shut then down, that's often where we see the argument come up that they got "exposed." Like when someone we know is a really good wrestler suddenly can't take an opponent down, they look truly like a fish out of water, so opinion on their skill level tanks. This happened to Dom against Cody, a guy no one really thinks has elite skills, but wasn't at all biting on Dom's unorthodox punch angles or his erratic head movement. So all of a sudden, Cruz's dancing not only doesn't look effective, it looks straight up silly. "If it works, it works" only works when it works, and when it doesn't..

That isn't to say he doesn't have skills, just that I think it was nearly secondary to his success compared to his style. And a lot of people have a bit of bias towards judging skills in p4p arguments than style, so that's usually going to have people think of Aldo over Cruz. Aldo just seems "better," and even if they were to have fought and Aldo lost, the relative term to describe Dom might not become "better," but instead something like "more effective."

But personally, I don't think that happens. I think Aldo is just all around better, and have said since Aldo dropped that I don't care about them ever fighting cuz Cruz had nothing for him
 
Weird to say he definitely wasn’t better than TJ; he definitely was and beat TJ after injuries and arguably out of prime.
Cruz "won" that fight alright.

The only reason why this fight isn't controversial is 100% because of the universal hatred TJ has. Anyone acting like this fight was a clear win for Cruz is just biased. Nothing more. Nothing less

The fight was about as close as a MMA fight gets

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he's also beating joe b x2, faber x2, Bowles, DJ, Ian mccall, jorgenson, all good wins with context applied.

TJ was the cherry on top he started his career at 22-1 with his only loss being to faber which he avenged. I 100% think Cruz should be ranked a head of khabib or something who I dont have as a top 15. Cruz is somewhere like 8-12
I disagree. He beat a bunch of FLWs that fought up because there was no division for them.

To each its own I guess.
 
Because Cruz is the most overrated fighter out there. He has a GREAT win over Silly Dilly in a controversial decision. The rest of his resume is not that deep other than beating Faber.

Aldo was much more dominant and he would beat the shit out of Cruz if the UFC put that fight together. His longevity also sets him apart from Cruz.

Also Cruz is the worst commentarist.. nothing to do with anything but I'm glad I get to see UFC with latinamerican commentary team.. Cruz fucking sucks and DC sucks too.
Dillashaw isn't the only impressive name on his resume. He beat Mighty Mouse right before MM went on his big run. Granted that's a division lower but still a GOAT that he beat.
 
Aldo wasn't in his prime when he lost to Conor, you can go back to his earlier fights and visually see a better fighter when he was younger and not gone through injuries. Similar to Shogun in a way. Aldo started early and had many mma miles on his body by 2015.
The fighter prime always last till one fight before he has his ass kicked lol

Ok, prime Aldo was invencible. You convinced me
 
Cruz "won" that fight alright.

The only reason why this fight isn't controversial is 100% because of the universal hatred TJ has. Anyone acting like this fight was a clear win for Cruz is just biased. Nothing more. Nothing less

The fight was about as close as a MMA fight gets

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I think you’re forgetting how many times Cruz made TJ whiff and fucking haymaker air that night; also he got some nice takedowns off momentum if I recall. I remember watching it thinking it was vintage Cruz and that he made TJ look silly but to each their own.
 
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