Why I despised Khamzat vs DDP

[Xoleth]

I believe Khamzat broke records for strikes landed and did next to no damage. No matter how you slice it being a dominant wrestler and holding someone in position and throwing a bajillion pitter patter punches is wrestling masked with weak gnp.There isn’t a soul that believed DDP a superior wrestler. It in many ways feels like Khamzat nullified a fight actually occurring until the clock ran out. What Khamzat was doing could have gone on another 10 rounds with neither man hurt so how the hell is that not nullifying a fight occurring? Imagine if Jones did the same shit instead of hellbows how much more he would be hated?
99% of the mma fanbase has no interest in watching a wrestling match or wrestling would have a much bigger fanbase. Nobody wants to hear Dick Mcdojo telling you because you don’t watch grappling sports for entertainment you are a casual when you actually grappled lol. Grappling is great to train but boring as fuck to watch. I daydreamed during wrestling meets in high school until it was my match. Perhaps after 2 minutes just take a fucking point from DDP and stand the fucking fight up. IMO that has to be implemented in Chimaev fights because he will keep that same strategy of turning potential epic fights to wrestling matches. I hated watching it with zero apologies

Oh OP, for fucks sake.
First of all, it wasn't such a boring fight. It had some action.
Usman vs Woodley was more boring, for example.

Older Jones also had boring fights against Smith, OSP and others. And the more entertaining fights were because Gus, Santos and Reyes stopped his takedowns.

I do agree that many don't wanna watch a wrestling match.
So?
What is your solution?

1. Forbid wrestling?
2. Make the fighters stand up after 20 seconds of inactivity?
3. Take a point from the one losing? Wow! Seriously? So, how does this stop Chimaev? He took him down at will.

You are acting like there aren't also boring striking fights.
Izzy vs Romero or vs Cannonier or vs Vettori 2 were just as boring.

 

[richardjohnson]

I don't agree with much that you say but this makes a lot of sense.

In every sport, when someone figured out a way to game the system and in the process, diminish the sport, the sport fought back and changed the rules for it's own survival.

• When Al Jabbar parked under the goal and swatted any shot that could go in, they outlawed 'goal tending'.

• When Dizzy Dean would start a pitch to home plate and then throw a pick-off to first, they outlawed the 'balk'.

• If a soccer player just stood by the opposite goal and waited for a pass, they outlawed 'off sides'.

• When a defender in football tackles a receiver before they can catch the ball, they outlawed 'pass interference'

If a goat fucker wins a fight by applying a body lock on an opponent for 25 minutes without doing ANY damage, it's killing the sport and the sport must fight back by changing the rules.

So what do you suggest be done? Stand them up when there isn’t much going on? That’s already a thing. Should they reward the fighter that couldn’t break out of a body lock for 25 minutes and also did very little damage with the win? That would be pretty silly.

 

[kuroro]

I believe Khamzat broke records for strikes landed and did next to no damage. No matter how you slice it being a dominant wrestler and holding someone in position and throwing a bajillion pitter patter punches is wrestling masked with weak gnp.There isn’t a soul that believed DDP a superior wrestler. It in many ways feels like Khamzat nullified a fight actually occurring until the clock ran out. What Khamzat was doing could have gone on another 10 rounds with neither man hurt so how the hell is that not nullifying a fight occurring? Imagine if Jones did the same shit instead of hellbows how much more he would be hated?
99% of the mma fanbase has no interest in watching a wrestling match or wrestling would have a much bigger fanbase. Nobody wants to hear Dick Mcdojo telling you because you don’t watch grappling sports for entertainment you are a casual when you actually grappled lol. Grappling is great to train but boring as fuck to watch. I daydreamed during wrestling meets in high school until it was my match. Perhaps after 2 minutes just take a fucking point from DDP and stand the fucking fight up. IMO that has to be implemented in Chimaev fights because he will keep that same strategy of turning potential epic fights to wrestling matches. I hated watching it with zero apologies

you don't like mma

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

You are acting like there aren't also boring striking fights.
Izzy vs Romero or vs Cannonier or vs Vettori 2 were just as boring.

While others here are acting like exciting grappling doesn’t exist

 

[Captain Herb]

So what do you suggest be done? Stand them up when there isn’t much going on? That’s already a thing. Should they reward the fighter that couldn’t break out of a body lock for 25 minutes and also did very little damage with the win? That would be pretty silly.

I've identified the problem (along with many others). I'll leave it to those much smarter than me to find a solution

 

[richardjohnson]

I've identified the problem (along with many others). I'll leave it to those much smarter than me to find a solution

Well that’s just it, no one seems to have a great solution. Uneventful fights with dominant grappling and not much damage aren’t anything new. I guess they could use something like the yellow cards in Pride but in the case of Khamzat vs Dricus how are you going to punish the guy actually doing something? After like two rounds Dricus was basically just accepting the positions and made very little effort to get out of them. You can’t award a fighter for that.

 

[Lycandroid]

I believe Khamzat broke records for strikes landed and did next to no damage. No matter how you slice it being a dominant wrestler and holding someone in position and throwing a bajillion pitter patter punches is wrestling masked with weak gnp.There isn’t a soul that believed DDP a superior wrestler. It in many ways feels like Khamzat nullified a fight actually occurring until the clock ran out. What Khamzat was doing could have gone on another 10 rounds with neither man hurt so how the hell is that not nullifying a fight occurring? Imagine if Jones did the same shit instead of hellbows how much more he would be hated?
99% of the mma fanbase has no interest in watching a wrestling match or wrestling would have a much bigger fanbase. Nobody wants to hear Dick Mcdojo telling you because you don’t watch grappling sports for entertainment you are a casual when you actually grappled lol. Grappling is great to train but boring as fuck to watch. I daydreamed during wrestling meets in high school until it was my match. Perhaps after 2 minutes just take a fucking point from DDP and stand the fucking fight up. IMO that has to be implemented in Chimaev fights because he will keep that same strategy of turning potential epic fights to wrestling matches. I hated watching it with zero apologies

Just because you are simpleton it doesn't mean everyone else is

 

[Mind Mine]

you don't like mma

No lil boy I have watched a sport for over 20 years and I’ll tell you what I like and don’t. Go tell your gay ass self you think a man holding another down til the ends of time isn’t exciting you sexually

 

[Mind Mine]

Oh OP, for fucks sake.
First of all, it wasn't such a boring fight. It had some action.
Usman vs Woodley was more boring, for example.

Older Jones also had boring fights against Smith, OSP and others. And the more entertaining fights were because Gus, Santos and Reyes stopped his takedowns.

I do agree that many don't wanna watch a wrestling match.
So?
What is your solution?

1. Forbid wrestling?
2. Make the fighters stand up after 20 seconds of inactivity?
3. Take a point from the one losing? Wow! Seriously? So, how does this stop Chimaev? He took him down at will.

You are acting like there aren't also boring striking fights.
Izzy vs Romero or vs Cannonier or vs Vettori 2 were just as boring.

My solution is standup and dock a point to DDP dor being in the inescapable position under the bosom of Khamzat. He can get more TD points but holding cuddling no you will not burn out 25 minutes

 

[kuroro]

No lil boy I have watched a sport for over 20 years and I’ll tell you what I like and don’t. Go tell your gay ass self you think a man holding another down til the ends of time isn’t exciting you sexually

yeah, you watched it for 20 years and men grappling for too long is still giving you anxiety about your sexuality lmfao

 

[Mind Mine]

yeah, you watched it for 20 years and men grappling for too long is still giving you anxiety about your sexuality lmfao

In my 20 year experience I have never seen a fight of such potential turned to a wrestling match since GSP (who I couldn’t stand watching) who at least used a jab heavy approach. I assume the only people that enjoy this are so deeply into grappling this excites them wtaching the subtleties or people like yourself that have no problem watching one man lay on another man and hold him down all night with love smacks. I need a word for people like you other than gay help me out

 

[blunttruth]

I agree that Kmat did as much (or more), to prevent an entertaining and violent fight from happening, as he did to ensure we saw one, and DDP deserves even less credit and more scorn. Holding someone down in a body lock so they simply can not fight you for 25 minutes is not far removed from runnung away from someone for 25 minutes so they simply can not fight you. It is a shame that Khamzat has sunk so far from where he once was. There was a time when we thought Kmat would fight regularly, not monthly, but often. We thought he would produce 1st round knock out or submissions. Since his first two fights we have seen one pre existing injury fight stoppage, and 3 decisions, the most recent being widely panned as Borzing.

 

[mangokush]

Khamzat lived up to the nick name of "Borzzz" in that hugfest because it was extremely boring

Even the crowd who was on his side in the beginning was booing all that hugging

Khamzat fans who are defending that hugfest better keep up that same energy when other huggers in the UFC hug like that

 

[Mind Mine]

So what do you suggest be done? Stand them up when there isn’t much going on? That’s already a thing. Should they reward the fighter that couldn’t break out of a body lock for 25 minutes and also did very little damage with the win? That would be pretty silly.

IF YOU READ What I said Ialready gave a very intelligent solution of taking a point from tge fighter trapped longer than a few minutes and stand them up. That way he can get more TD points of that’s his angle. Allowing fights to be stalemated to a wrestling clinic is absolutely dog shit as well as lashing out like a retard at people offering intelligent solutions

 

[Mind Mine]

Just because you are simpleton it doesn't mean everyone else is

Botch you sit alone on your couch enjoying one man hold another down for 25 minutes lightly punching while screaming this is so exciting and I’m not gay. Both lies btw

 

[Lycandroid]

Botch you sit alone on your couch enjoying one man hold another down for 25 minutes lightly punching while screaming this is so exciting and I’m not gay. Both lies btw

Actually I had about 20 people over to watch and even the wifes/girlfriends who don't like any sports watched the fights.

I'm sorry you are so incredibly stupid that you find it boring when MMA starts MIXING THE MARTIAL arts.

Nobody can do what Khamzat did and nobody will be able to stop him, that is why he let this go on for 25 minutes.

He showed the entire world he is the top dog, nobody will be able to beat him and now everybody knows it. All the questions have been answered.

 

[richardjohnson]

IF YOU READ What I said Ialready gave a very intelligent solution of taking a point from tge fighter trapped longer than a few minutes and stand them up. That way he can get more TD points of that’s his angle. Allowing fights to be stalemated to a wrestling clinic is absolutely dog shit as well as lashing out like a retard at people offering intelligent solutions

My post wasn’t even replying to you big dog

 

[Mind Mine]

Actually I had about 20 people over to watch and even the wifes/girlfriends who don't like any sports watched the fights.

I'm sorry you are so incredibly stupid that you find it boring when MMA starts MIXING THE MARTIAL arts.

Nobody can do what Khamzat did and nobody will be able to stop him, that is why he let this go on for 25 minutes.

He showed the entire world he is the top dog, nobody will be able to beat him and now everybody knows it. All the questions have been answered.

A household full of weirdos is of no matter to me. The most booed championship fight in history you cry and lash out like a bitch over people on forums giving their honest take on why they didn’t enjoy it. We can play it like this. Fuck you and every person in your house that enjoyed it and stay your bitch ass off my threads? Does that work chief?

 

[Lycandroid]

Literally a family full of weirdos is of no matter to me. The most booed championship fight in history you cry and lash put like a bitch over people on forums giving their honest take on why they didn’t enjoy it. We can play it like this. Fuck you and everin your house that enjoyed it and stay your biych ass off my threads

You have every right to be a retard, nearly a dozen spelling and grammatical errors in one paragraph, of course you can't understand what you are watching when you can't even properly write down your own thoughts lol you live in a free country. At least own up to it lol.

Most boring championship fight in history ? Hardly, you obviously started watching this sport recently. There was a time when the majority of fights would be similar to what we saw in the main event.

 

[Tweak896]

Like this is how when Anderson Silva had one boring fight and people were trying to say he's a boring fighter. I think Khamzat's resume speaks enough about his entertainment volume. You kept crying about him not having cardio, now he shows he does and it's boring. When guys are such high level and he's fighting a weightclass above, it's harder to get finishes.