Opinion Why do so many non Americans like Trump?

[Hollywood Jack]

I think you underestimate the level of difference between states such as NY/NJ/CA/WA/OR and say, MS/AK/AL, etc.

The greater the disparity in political execution, the more important the EC is for continuity.

Just like countries can leave the EU, without the EC, states would and could leave the Union, if politics stayed as is.

They're less populated and have different ideologies, histories and needs than states like CA/NY/NJ/IL etc.

Not having a say in politics is a sure way of causing civil disengagement

I'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous reasoning. Your argument is basically that it's necessary to give the conservative MINORITY an advantage over the liberal MAJORITY because if the liberal majority had their votes count, that would somehow be tyranny or something. And you claim if we count the majority of votes instead of the EC, the union ceases to exist, but somehow it works out in every other country that counts popular vote.

By the way, you're from California and appear to be conservative. If anything, your vote counts for nothing in our current system which counts EVERY vote from California as blue. If we did it by popular vote, then your vote would count for whoever you voted for, along with EVERY other vote nationwide. But under our current system, blue votes in red states don't count, and vice versa. That's bullshit and should change. It's a shame that it won't.

 

[Ichibanner]

Not that it's any better (well better for your body, but still embarrassing), but Biden actually fell UP stairs, LOL.

Haha, you're right. He fell going up the stairs which he should be thankful for.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I think you underestimate the level of difference between states such as NY/NJ/CA/WA/OR and say, MS/AK/AL, etc.

The greater the disparity in political execution, the more important the EC is for continuity.

Just like countries can leave the EU, without the EC, states would and could leave the Union, if politics stayed as is.

They're less populated and have different ideologies, histories and needs than states like CA/NY/NJ/IL etc.

Not having a say in politics is a sure way of causing civil disengagement

In addition to the problems Jackie pointed out, I really don't know what you think the EC does. It's not like the Senate, where every state gets two votes, regardless of size. It's kind of random whether a party is helped or hurt by the EC relative to a popular vote.

 

[ferrisjso]

Hes seen as part of a global fascist wave. So supporters of fascists in other countries are going to support him. In many cases he endorsed their candidates. I've always considered Trumps support of Bolsanaro to be likely the worst thing he did in office(that got no media coverage) and while not every fascist has a rainforest to destroy and the fate of humanity in their hands Trump consistantly endorsed these types globally.

 

[koquerelle]

In addition to the problems Jackie pointed out, I really don't know what you think the EC does. It's not like the Senate, where every state gets two votes, regardless of size. It's kind of random whether a party is helped or hurt by the EC relative to a popular vote.

Do we have studies to look at?

 

[Lord Coke]

THey had a rally for him in Tijuana with make Tijuana great again hats

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/20/trump-immigration-rhetoric-1008218

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Do we have studies to look at?

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2013581117

Pretty unbiased research on its effect in the last 10 elections. 2016 was the most biased election in the last 10 elections. Trump won neither the popular vote or even a plurality of the vote, but got a clear cut Electoral College victory. It also correctly predicted that it'd be less of a factor in 2020 than in 2016.

 

[ExitLUPin]

I mean isn't it obvious lmaoooo he is funny as hell, charismatic, doesn't fit into the typical sleazy PC politician mold despite his own faults

 

[Source]

Speaking just statically most of the people on this planet are non Americans. If even just 1 percent of those people like trump that’s 10s of millions of people.

 

[deise69]

If there wasn't an EC, the U.S. would cease to exist as a union.

The middle red's cannot go on forever with NY/CA's super liberal majorities dictating life in the land.

Same issue going on in Europe. Eastern block countries, Ireland, Scotland, etc. don't want laws for Brit's and French dictating their lives.

It's very difficult having a civil union of such diverse areas, especially in a 50/50 population.

This makes no sense because Scotland is part of Britain and therefore Brit's themselves and the UK/Brits have left the EU and are not dictating anything. Not that they ever did or do you not understand how the EU works ?

As for Trump, he was/is a clown but at least he's has shown the rest of the world that US is a clown show and cannot be relied on.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

There's a Filipina living in Canada who declared herself to be the Queen of Canada and has a large QAnon following there. She actually got 30 chuds to show up and raid a police station in Canada. The cops basically ignored them and then when some of them tried to get aggro, they fucked them up and arrested a few.

down in the states they duped a bunch of chuds into standing around in dallas thinking that JFK Jr, who faked his own death, was going to reveal himself. not just once, but twice. first he was supposed to announce himself to become trumps 2020 running mate. and the second time believing that he was going to have donald trump reinstated as president

the best thing about it is that alot of the crowd was still wearing the trump/kennedy 2020 qanon swagger that they bought the first time that jfk jr. stood them up. you would think that some of them would have clued in the first time they gotten duped, but nope. many of them still believe in these bogus conspiracies.

at least it was better to troll the maga muppets into standing around in the rain peacefully instead of trying to get violent with law enforcement.

 

[scorpiorising]

In Canada it's really a mixed view. All the retards and dumb Albertans love him.

Generally he's looked at like a clown.

In Japan, if you asked people about him they just laugh and say he's stupid.

 

[So Fresh]

Where I live his popularity was mostly on the far right and in Qanon circles. So that kinda gives you an impression of what kind of people liked him. Older people who post facebook memes about the deep state and how Q and Trump are gonna drain the swamp.

Those people have a hard time following politics here, imagine in another country. They just get sold on the populist bs he’s spewing.

 

[So Fresh]

Most reasonable people know they can’t judge the true character or intelligence of a person they never met..
Most reasonable people know that to formulate such opinions based on news and second hand stories is foolish…
Most reasonable people know that someone who attains the highest office in the world must be intelligent..

The problem here is most people have shit for brains and are only motivated by tribal thinking and narrow minds..

Yeah it’s not like he had a twitter account where he posted for 10 years or something and did multiple interviews. Really hard to get a sense of what kind of person Trump is <Lmaoo>

 

[genecop]

Yeah it’s not like he had a twitter account where he posted for 10 years or something and did multiple interviews. Really hard to get a sense of what kind of person Trump is <Lmaoo>

So Dumb….

 

[So Fresh]

So Dumb….

Good one

 

[genecop]

Good one

TY

 

[Jack V Savage]

Do we have studies to look at?

More of a logical point. Also "random" isn't the exact right term. Currently, it benefits Republicans. Benefitted Democrats during Obama's time. Who benefits changes over time in a way that isn't consistent or deliberate.

There's also a misconception that it was designed to give small states more representation than big ones (as the Senate actually was). For one thing, there was no limit on the size of the House so there was minimal disproportionate representation at the start (though it did weight slave states more heavily because slaves were partly counted for the purpose of population but not allowed to vote). But more than that, it was created because the Founders didn't think voters would know much about the candidates and did think that they'd know a lot about the electors. They also figured most of the time, the EC would function to narrow the field and not actually pick the president.

 

[Fake Doctor]

Full disclosure, I think Trump is a hilarious public figure, so keep that in mind when I say what I'm about to say.

I don't like Trump. I grew up thinking the guy was a low-level corrupt New York businessman and I still think that. I don't think he's a great person. I wouldn't trust him with my kid, and I wouldn't go in a business venture with him. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, and he's a fatass, so...

That being said, I feel like he's the sleazy used car salesman down the street that, for some reason, everyone has decided to treat like he's the next Hitler. When I see the mob gathering to string the guy up I feel compelled to say "Hey look, sure Don sold Jim a lemon at a high price and he hits on Bob's wife every time he sees her, but he's not trying to commit a genocide or something." That gets construed as really liking Don.

 

[cooks1]

I'm curious since he was never their President and you don't get to vote.

Any non US people here want to chime in? It would be interesting to hear why. Since you don't have a horse in the race and can't really be labeled an American right winger.

Unapologetic Trump fan myself

Your premise is false on its face. Trump has by far the lowest international approval rating of any US president in modern history. He simply had a small, loud, devoted group of authoritarian and fascist sympathizers making an awful lot of noise.