Why are flying knees more devastating than kicks?

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

Bro what do you mean it’s a knee

That’s the largest bone mass that you can strike with. Shit is like a club

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

More efficient force transfer from di knee fam

Kick yuh get more velocity cuz di ting further from di axis of rotation so more potential but di energy transfer nuh efficient like di knee

Knee is more compact and stable cuz ting closer to di hip yuh nuh lose as much energy

1/2mv^2 mek yuh tink tho fam wat if yuh jus troe a weak ass flyin' kick but yuh kinetic chain timing slick maximize energy transfer ting finna be stronger den a knee or nah iono fam mi only troe slaps so dats on u broski be sick af tho

Can you not?

 

[Here's Johnny!]

How has noone discussed placement... an uppercut is way less powerful than a hook or straight cross... what's the difference. One hits the chin directly.. the others often hit the chest the face the eye the side of the head... come on man

 

[MDoza]

Guys will often duck into a flying knee.

So you have the combined force of the knee with all of the body weight behind it, plus the opponent moving their head into the knee. Then the knee itself is very rigid compared to a foot.

With kicks, it’s hard to keep as much weight behind it, and unless you land with the heel, the foot doesn’t have as rigid of a contact point.

 

[Intermission]

Guys will often duck into a flying knee.

So you have the combined force of the knee with all of the body weight behind it, plus the opponent moving their head into the knee. Then the knee itself is very rigid compared to a foot.

With kicks, it’s hard to keep as much weight behind it, and unless you land with the heel, the foot doesn’t have as rigid of a contact point.

The heel isnt a rigid contact point either

 

[sanguinius]

Is this trolling?

 

[Hog-train]

I never seen a knee do what Uriah Halls spin kick did to that Ultimate Fighter.

Knees are just easier to land.

But that was the heel hitting which is much harder than a shin bone in a standard roundhouse.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

It s because there is typically a lot of weight transfer with a knee which is not far away from the hips (center of gravity). Also there is only one joint involved, the hip, which is a huge one so hardly any loss of power.

 

[BoomStronk]

I wonder if it relates to the solidity of the knee as opposed to the flexibility of the foot/shin. A knee strike has way less opportunity for force to ve dispersed as compared to a foot strike. With a knee, the thigh is bent in tight to the hip, making a very solid base. With a kick, the thigh is extended, so the hip joint has a bjt more motion, plus there's the flexibility of the other joints along the way: the knee, the ankle in the case of a kick with the foot. There tib/fib can compress/flex a bit more compared to the knee.

Also, considering the "flying" aspect, the flying knee is an explosive jump upwards with the knee impacting on a direct line from the ground whereas a flying kick is more indirect. In a flying knee the jump force becomes part of the impact. With a flying kick, the jump just creates altitude and then the kick comes more from the side, offline from the momentum of the jump itself. - except the crane kick, ala machida/Anderson.

 

[Slapjit]

Can you not?

mi culd but mi wont

 

[BroScienceTalkatWork]

mi culd but mi wont

Thanks to you, I’m gonna see if there’s a Jamaican MMA league after work. Shit would be fire

 

[spinup]

But less momentum behind it.

Not sure a knee is harder than a shin though

Momentum is not everything, you have to be able to transmit it. Damage comes from the rigidity, on top of the momentum.
Kbees hace more rigidity because the force only goes through one joint (the hip), while with shins ot goes through 2 joints (hip and knee)

Basically it is like hitting with nunchuk vs a bat. Nunchuk can get a lot of momentum, but it won't carry as much force as the bat.

 

[ElLunico]

Usually when you get hit with a flying knee, you don't see it coming or don't expect it. The strikes you don't see/expect Knock you out.

 

[meast]

Knees absorb more shock than heel kicks and land with less surface area than roundhouse kicks. It is like an elbow vs a punch, but you can generate a lot more force with a flying knee than an elbow. (I am not a scientist but that’s how it seems to me)

 

[OmegaRugal]

But that was the heel hitting which is much harder than a shin bone in a standard roundhouse.

Still a kick

 

[Thy]

doesn't help when someone shoots for a takedown into a knee, or ducks into it. knee's be thick