Who Won? Robert Whittaker or Yoel Romero?

Who won?

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rjmbrd said:
I feel like there is a very strong argument for a draw, I'll need to watch the fight again but I had it 3-2 for Whittaker with Romero scoring a 10-8 in the final round.

Anyone saying it was a clear cut 'robbery' is exaggerating. That fight was tricky to score.

In a practical sense I'm always relieved if the guy who missed weight loses in the event of a very close decision.
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Exactly. Even if Romero had gotten his hand raised it makes things far more complicated. Because he still would not have the belt. The right guy got his hand raised.
 
It was a win for Romero however you look at it.

The third and fifth should have been 10-8, and the 4th could have gone to either guy.

Only in UFC can a guy get his ass kicked and win a point decision, it's a disgrace. Whittaker knew he lost too.
 
The fact that the majority vote is for Romero winning shows how stupid the posters are here.

Whittaker won 3 rounds, unquestionably..... Romero won 2.... At most, 1 could be argued 10-8 which would make it a draw.

All you Romero voters should be embarrassed. You're worse than any judge you've made fun of.

Grats on that.
 
Koro_11 said:
It was a win for Romero however you look at it.

The third and fifth should have been 10-8, and the 4th could have gone to either guy.

Only in UFC can a guy get his ass kicked and win a point decision, it's a disgrace. Whittaker knew he lost too.
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Embarrassing... Truly embarrassing if you believe this.
 
Koro_11 said:
No, what's embarrassing is muppets who pretend round 4 and round 5 should be given the same score.
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At best, he gets a 10-8 round for round 5, which makes it a draw. He clearly only won 2 rounds and it's complete lunacy to score round 3 a 10-8 round.

Blame the flawed scoring system.
 
Jim said:
I just saw the fight and would say Whit 48-47. Only real swing round is 4 and Whit given the fact he's the champ and Yoel missed weight should always get the nod in a close round.

I don't believe there were any 10-8 rounds to make up a draw.

What's the consensus here?
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Under the old scoring system it's a 47-47 draw.

This was fought with the new scoring system where you do not need to dominate the entire round for a 10-8. With that in mind it's either 47-46 or 47-45 Romero. One of the top 5 worst scored title fights of all time.
 
spannered said:
There's never been a 10-7 round in the UFC.

Judges don't even like giving out 10-8's.

I scored the fight a draw, giving Yoel the 10-8 for the 5th round. All the other rounds were pretty clear 10-9's, and Rob won 3 rounds to two.
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That's because the scoring system used to be different and most AC's still use the old system. The new system is supposed to be more liberal with 10-8.
 
UJustGotChaeld said:
It's been changed. This fight uses the NEW scoring system, where round 3 was a pretty clear 10-8 and round 5 was likely a 10-7.
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So a knockdown = automatic 10-8 now? If so, that's so stupid, there are no words to explain how stupid it is.

Round 5, sure. I can understand that. I don't understand how round 3 is 10-8. 10-7 is lunacy.
 
Dbreiden83080 said:
Exactly. Even if Romero had gotten his hand raised it makes things far more complicated. Because he still would not have the belt. The right guy got his hand raised.
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Honestly that's the AC's fault. 1 hour and only 2 ounces to go, he was making weight until they stepped in.
 
chinarice said:
So a knockdown = automatic 10-8 now? If so, that's so stupid, there are no words to explain how stupid it is.

Round 5, sure. I can understand that. I don't understand how round 3 is 10-8. 10-7 is lunacy.
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No, not a knockdown, Bobby was severely hurt and almost finished. Romero also dominated a large portion of the round doubling Bobby in sig. strikes. Those 2 combined make 10-8 under the NEW rules an unquestionable 10-8 .. round 3 could have been a 10-8 in the old rules, close .. but probably better as a 10-9.
 
People keep forgetting this fight was under the NEW scoring which is designed to make 10-8 much more common. There are really only 1 question about scoring the rounds.

Round 1: 10-9 BK
Round 2: 10-9 BK
Round 3: 10-8 YR
Round 4: 10-9 BK
Round 5: 10-8 or 10-7 YR

If you have a difference of opinion I would please like you to look at the NEW scoring rules and explain why 3 and 5 are not 10-8 for YR.

At the very least you have to admit round 5 is a 10-8 Romero, making the fight a Draw at BEST.
 
Swarthy said:
It really wasn’t 10-8 is utter domination with zero resistance if r5 was a 10-8 then so was round 1.

Neither of them was a 10-8
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Finnally someon who thinks the same
No 10-8 to me in the fight, Robert won rounds 1, 2 and 4
 
fermaPY said:
Finnally someon who thinks the same
No 10-8 to me in the fight, Robert won rounds 1, 2 and 4
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Swarthy said:
It really wasn’t 10-8 is utter domination with zero resistance if r5 was a 10-8 then so was round 1.

Neither of them was a 10-8
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False. That is the OLD scoring method. This fight uses the new scoring rules. YR was never hurt in the first round.
 
The definition of a 10-8 round is also more liberal with the changes, asking judges to look at dominance, duration and impact (or damage). If a round has two of those characteristics, a 10-8 should be considered. If a round has all three of those characteristics, it must be a 10-8 round
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https://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/...-changes-to-mma-scoring-criteria-new-rules-in

Yoel almost finished BK in rounds 3 and 5, that means YR checks all 3 boxes in both rounds and by definition they MUST be 10-8 rounds.
 
I had it 47-46 Romero but a 47-47 draw is also fine.

Whittaker 1,2,4 10-9
Romero 3,5 10-8

For me, there were 2 rounds which required some thought to score.

Round 4: Do you score it a 10-9 for Whittaker based on volume and control or 10-9 for Romero for rocking Whittaker during the last minute? I scored it for Whittaker

Round 3: Do you score it a 10-9 or a 10-8 for Romero? The case is definitely there for both. One can argue that Whittaker recovered quickly and delivered some output of his own, which warrants a 10-9, but I saw Romero almost finishing him in this round and that, in my humble opinion, warranted a 10-8

The other 3 rounds were pretty clear.

Round 1 and 2: Clear 10-9s for Whittaker.

Round 5: Clear 10-8 for Romero. This was a textbook 10-8. Whittaker was trying to survive the round. Sure, he reversed positions towards the end of the round, but that doesn't change the fact that this was the most lopsided round of the fight, where a stoppage would have been justifiable during the first half of the round.

In sum,

Pride Rules: Romero and its not even close
Unified (UFC) Rules: Romero 47-46 or a 47-47 Draw
 
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