Who Won? Robert Whittaker or Yoel Romero?

[UJustGotChaeld]

Honestly I find it so very disappointing that after all the talk about this we seem to be back to the dodgy old situation where 10-8 rounds being given or not has a whiff of favouritism to them.

Colby a guy the UFC wants to push gets them for doing very little to Kim for example, Romero a guy who's missed weight and can't become champ doesn't get them for nearly finishing his opponent.

Colby got them and earned them. He met 2 of the 3 criteria, so it was entirely reasonable. But you highlight a good point, how did the same judges give them to Colby and not Romero, how can anyone say Colby was more dominant than Romero in 3 and 5 .. you can't.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

By both the circumstances surrounding the fight, and objective use of the 10-point must system, this is one of the clearest cases for a draw you’ll ever see.

47-47

Any argument is clearly biased.

I would agree under the old system. Under the new system the Judges actually do not have a choice but to give Romero a 10-8 in rounds 3 and 5 .. unless they decide to ignore the actual scoring criteria and make up their own.

 

[TheHNICuLuv2Hate]

I thought it should have been a draw, but part of the reason is I want to see a 3rd fight so I'm biased in that aspect.

 

[chinarice]

I would agree under the old system. Under the new system the Judges actually do not have a choice but to give Romero a 10-8 in rounds 3 and 5 .. unless they decide to ignore the actual scoring criteria and make up their own.

The fact that anyone thinks round 3 is 10-8 means they made the rules even shittier than before. That isn't a 10-8. I'm sorry. That's just nonsense.

What would Blaydes/Overeem had been at the end of the round, had Blaydes not finished? 10-6? 10-5? I mean, Overeem's brains exploded on the canvas. That is more than Yoel did to Whittaker. 10-1 round for Blaydes?

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

The fact that anyone thinks round 3 is 10-8 means they made the rules even shittier than before. That isn't a 10-8. I'm sorry. That's just nonsense.

What would Blaydes/Overeem had been at the end of the round, had Blaydes not finished? 10-6? 10-5? I mean, Overeem's brains exploded on the canvas. That is more than Yoel did to Whittaker. 10-1 round for Blaydes?

Yoel controlled the whole round. He outstruck him 2-1. He almost finished the fight. That is 10-8. Look at the Colby fight .. what rounds in that fight did you think were 10-8 and if any why were they more 10-8 worthy than Yoel's?

You are welcome to say you do not like the rules, but the rules are the rules.

 

[chinarice]

Yoel controlled the whole round. He outstruck him 2-1. He almost finished the fight. That is 10-8. Look at the Colby fight .. what rounds in that fight did you think were 10-8 and if any why were they more 10-8 worthy than Yoel's?

You are welcome to say you do not like the rules, but the rules are the rules.

0 of Colby's were 10-8. At best, round 5 of Whittaker/Romero was 10-8.

At what point exactly was Whittaker close to being finished in round 3? I don't think that happened. Getting dropped does not equal 10-8, unless they're even more boxing-oriented than before, which is complete lunacy. He got dropped and defended very well and got back up and continued fighting.

Round 5, he was badly hurt, had troubles defending but eventually did and got back up..... I can understand an argument for that one being 10-8....not round 3.

If you soundly outstrike a guy, the guy losing the round does not seemingly get hurt but then gets taken down and almost gets subbed, is that a 10-8? I bet that never happens ever under new scoring because they can't tell what is a close sub versus a close finish due to strikes. The system is so flawed, it's unfixable.

 

[george14]

Romero was never in danger in round 1, wasn't dropped, wasn't put on rubber legs, didn't absorb significant damage, fight was never close to being stopped. There's no argument to claim that round 1 was 10-8.

I posted the actual scoring criteria, it clearly shows why round 1 is not a 10-8 and round 3 is, impact.

The impact was not sustained. Round 5 has a good argument for being a 10-8, not Round 3.

I don't think Round 1 was a 10-8, I was using that as an example as to why people need to chill on the 10-8 stuff. Romero was dominated that round, but never hurt, therefore no 10-8. Round 3 Whittaker was not dominated, but he was hurt. Romero had a big moment but I don't think it was sustained long enough to be a 10-8 round.

 

[Jon Stark]

It's been changed. This fight uses the NEW scoring system, where round 3 was a pretty clear 10-8 and round 5 was likely a 10-7.

The first ever 10-7 in UFC history?

 

[Jon Stark]

By both the circumstances surrounding the fight, and objective use of the 10-point must system, this is one of the clearest cases for a draw you’ll ever see.

47-47

Any argument is clearly biased.

I think I could accept at 47-47 or 48-47 Whit. Romero didn’t win 3 rounds.

 

[Ruhler]

Yoel for me, but it wasn't clear and def debatable.

 

[ExitLUPin]

clear 47-47 draw

i dont understand the problem scoring this. Very easy fight to score

10-9 Whittaker
10-9 Whittaker
10-9 Yoel
10-9 Whittaker
10-8 Yoel

 

[NationWideNinja]

From the ten point perspective I’d say it was a draw. From a common sense perspective I’d say that the guy that gave the other guy a concussion should be the winner.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Honestly that's the AC's fault. 1 hour and only 2 ounces to go, he was making weight until they stepped in.

He routinely has issues. And he did not make it when he first stepped on the scale. That is the time to make it. You should never need 2 more hours.

 

[Docrob2354]

I just saw the fight and would say Whit 48-47. Only real swing round is 4 and Whit given the fact he's the champ and Yoel missed weight should always get the nod in a close round.

I don't believe there were any 10-8 rounds to make up a draw.

What's the consensus here?

Any round where you dominate and nearly finish your opponent should be 10-8. I saw one, probably 2 of them.
I am sick of fights where a.fighter is dominent in a round, then his opponents wins a.round that is very close and they count the same (10-9)

 

[chinarice]

clear 47-47 draw

i dont understand the problem scoring this. Very easy fight to score

10-9 Whittaker
10-9 Whittaker
10-9 Yoel
10-9 Whittaker
10-8 Yoel

That is a fair score... I honestly can't see how people can seriously argue a 10-8 for round 3. Clear 10-9 to me.

 

[chinarice]

Any round where you dominate and nearly finish your opponent should be 10-8. I saw one, probably 2 of them.
I am sick of fights where a.fighter is dominent in a round, then his opponents wins a.round that is very close and they count the same (10-9)

That is a problem with the scoring... I don't think round 3 was a 10-8 but yeah, a 10-8 round 5 is acceptable. The problem is the scoring system is clearly flawed.

 

[chinarice]

From the ten point perspective I’d say it was a draw. From a common sense perspective I’d say that the guy that gave the other guy a concussion should be the winner.

Id say the guy that was half blind due to strikes of the champ is equal to a concussion.

 

[Kertol]

I’d give it a draw.
Whittaker clearly won rounds 1,2 and 4.
Romero got rounds 3 and 5. I wouldn’t score the 3rd round a 10-8 because Whittaker bounced back after the knockdown and landed some good shots of his own. The 5th round I guess you can score it a 10-8 but I’d have to watch it again, which would make it 47-47.
So it’s very clearly 3 rounds to 2 in favour of Whittaker. Which either means he won or it’s a draw depending on how you scored the 5th. So the outcome isn’t a robbery, but I think it should have been a draw.
Keep in mind Romero didn’t make weight and Whittaker fought for at least 2 rounds with a broken hand.

I just re-watched the fight and scored it exactly how you described it^^^. When I initially watched it I thought Romero should of won and picked him in the poll but now I say either draw or Whittaker.

Excellent fight of the year candidate nonetheless.

 

[ROIDZ]

Easy win for Whittaker. First round, Yoel did nothing and was dominated. 10-8, 10-9, 9-10, 10-9, 8-10. Bobby was robbed of a 10-8 if anything. Rogan goes from saying a minute out that Yoel needs a finish to throwing Knuckles under the bus. Yoel fans say its a robbery because the 5th should be a 10-8. Um ok then, that would make it a draw you inbreds. Then they say oh but round 3 was a 10-8. So which is it? If the 3rd and 5th is a 10-8, so is 1 and 2 for RW. Imagine Rob did the same as Yoel and throw nothing, it would of been worse than Francis/Lewis.

 

[Blue_Lou]

I can see how it could go either way but I’m glad they gave it to Whittaker. Just because Yoel missed weight