Who was closer to being wobbled and rocked: Jones or Khabib?

[El Diego]

Jones was rocked worse by OSP than he was by Machida.

 

[AstralPanda]

Your hero is one of the few who was dumb enough to get caught; says a lot about his intelligence (or lack thereof).

I'm not at a point in life where I have anyone on a pedestal

I show the same respect to everyone

Anything I've said about Jones is something you'd hear from anyone close to the sport as well.

Mindless hate simply doesn't dictate my thinking.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

My memory of times they got hit hard and clean:

Jones got hit clean by a Rashad head kick, boxed up repeatedly by Gus, clipped once by Machida and OSP, tagged a few times by Santos, and dropped with a body shot by Reyes.

Khabib ate a clean straight left from MJ, a big overhand from DP, and a massive left hook from Gaethje.

Neither ever truly got rocked or wobbled where they were on shaky legs looking like another big shot would finish them.

Jones probably took more damage overall and had to use his length/clinch to negate the pressure and gradually get fights back in his control, Khabib would take a few step backs for 5 seconds then immediately return to pressuring.

Two of the GOAT chins - Jones more tested, Khabib better overall response but with more limited sample size. Khabib never dropped, cut, bloodied up though.

 

[pick999]

Gud beat the living sh** out of Jones. Jones couldnt even walk anymore after the fight and was bleeding all over the place.

No one even came close to hurt Khabib.

Jon made gus bleed in the 4th and was so close to finishing him in the 5th.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

This punch was loud AF in real time. Jon took it well though.

He rolled with it pretty well. You can see him anticipate it and start moving just before it lands

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Jon made gus bleed in the 4th and was so close to finishing him in the 5th.

This fight came down to 1 moment. That's pinning back elbow completely changed the trajectory of the fight. Gus looked like he was on his way to winning and in control and in a split second it was taken a way from him.

 

[Bret 'The Hitman' Hart]

Jones against Gus

 

[JBJ was here]

He rolled with it pretty well. You can see him anticipate it and start moving just before it lands

Moving with the strike is something Jon does better than anyone else. People think of striking defense as being all about making your opponent miss, and Jon's good at that, but being able to take all the power out of your opponent's strikes is nearly as effective at directly avoiding damage as making them miss and significantly expands your options for controlling range,

 

[TerraRayzing]

Jones actually said Rashad rocked him.
Major props to Jones for composing himself after that overhand from hell.

 

[Daniel Henry]

In Khahib fight vs Gleison Tibau he went for a double leg and Tibau caught his ass. Only fight he lost in many eyes

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Moving with the strike is something Jon does better than anyone else. People think of striking defense as being all about making your opponent miss, and Jon's good at that, but being able to take all the power out of your opponent's strikes is nearly as effective at directly avoiding damage as making them miss and significantly expands your options for controlling range,

I agree. Also 1 thing with Jones when he does get hit solid, he exists range real quik. Even running to regain a safe distance.

 

[Vehap1]

4 bitcoin AND steroids? Champ in 6 months tbh

Had 11 btc few months ago, so im not super happy
Probably 10x more than you tho, 25k post on a forum, you seems to have a good life, or what life xD

Guess your from Mexico, so I apologize.
I shouldnt talk bad like this to people from such miserable places, Im sorry bro, keep grinding

 

[Vehap1]

Not only are you a badass, but you also know more than the best fighters and analysts on the planet.

Tremendous

I dont buy into hype like you sucker

I only buy into real things that matters, like bitcoins

If Dana say believe this you listen,
Hitler say this you listen
etc

 

[Vehap1]

Not only are you a badass, but you also know more than the best fighters and analysts on the planet.

Tremendous

Did you believe in Covid-19 and took 6x vaccine dosage? ofc you did
haha loser come suck my dick, i pay your flight in crypto

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Id imagine Khabib has a lot more fight time on the ground over Jon Jones. Jon is willing to sit on the outside and trade with others which increase the odds to be rocked over Khabib

 

[Superzorro]

You seem to think Jon's career trajectory was vastly different then Khabib's.
Jon at LHW vacated and retired in Feb 2020 at age 32 with 28 career fights.
Khabib vacated and retired in Oct 2020 at age 32 with 29 career fights.

Jon was 26-1-1 and Khabib was 29-0. Khabib was undefeated...something Jon and no other fighter has ever done. Khabib never had to cheat to get a win like Jon so its actually pretty delusional to think Jon is unparalleled. Funny again how you claim a clear 30-27 decision on all 3 judges scorecards is your evidence Khabib would lose. Truly deluded.

Khabib only fought 3-4 elite fighters and became champion in 2018. Jones fought 16 and became champion in 2011. Jones has moved up. Khabib stayed at lightweight. Jones has more title fights than Khabib has total fights in the UFC. It's not close.

 

[13Seconds]

Moving with the strike is something Jon does better than anyone else. People think of striking defense as being all about making your opponent miss, and Jon's good at that, but being able to take all the power out of your opponent's strikes is nearly as effective at directly avoiding damage as making them miss and significantly expands your options for controlling range,

It is a matter of the quality of your chin though. As good as Jon is on the defensive side, he seems to have a helluva chin too.

Alot of fighters that used to move with the strikes of their opponents ended up not being able to do that anymore.

 

[AstralPanda]

Did you believe in Covid-19 and took 6x vaccine dosage? ofc you did
haha loser come suck my dick, i pay your flight in crypto

I dont buy into hype like you sucker

I only buy into real things that matters, like bitcoins

If Dana say believe this you listen,
Hitler say this you listen
etc

So, you're saying that the greatest fighting minds and athletes on the planet are buying into the hype.

But you can see the truth.

Incredible.

You must be the greatest fighter that has ever lived.

Must have all those secret techniques that are too deadly to compete with as well.

Thank you for blessing us with your presence my lord.

 

[AstralPanda]

Had 11 btc few months ago, so im not super happy
Probably 10x more than you tho, 25k post on a forum, you seems to have a good life, or what life xD

Guess your from Mexico, so I apologize.
I shouldnt talk bad like this to people from such miserable places, Im sorry bro, keep grinding

So, not only are you the greatest fighter that has ever lived, master of deadly techniques that cannot be trained

But you are a rich, future mogul.

Damn, you bless us with your presence king. One day, we all hope to attain your level of power and humility.

 

[AfroBanana]

Jon spent way more time having the balls to fight to his opponents strengths.

When Jon fights like Khabib Gabe happens. Islam at least spends time intentionally on the feet and isn’t just fishing for the takedown like Khabib.

Put it this way, if Khabib intentionally spent an entire fight striking like Jon or Islam say against Justin, Dustin, MJ, Conor etc I don’t like his chances.

Khabib’s dip and chuck arm punching style isn’t very nuanced but it works with what he’s trying to do. Clearly he’s not an Islam or Usman who can beat guys relying solely on striking the way Jon also has.

Fun fact Khabib officially lost rounds in his first and third title defenses when the round was on the feet (despite not taking visable damage). Jon was like in his 5th or 6th title fight? When he dropped a round to Gus.

Jon has willingly gone into deep waters striking and Khabib outside of his title fight avoids doing so at all costs.