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Gustafsson beat Cormier…

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…and the reason that opinion isn’t popular is jones hate, media scores and dc moving forward.

I think gus beat dc. In the 2nd round, in my opinion, he landed the better shots, he cut dc open, he took dc down. The scoring back was a bit different but still had effective striking as the number one criteria, but was followed by effective grappling instead of being equal.

Gus 100% won the 3rd round. there is no argument dc won the 3rd, and if you think he did you’re extremely biased or just think whoever lands more total strikes should always win the round. He was an inch from unconsciousness. No argument

The 4th wasn’t nearly as close as i see people say it was. Gus landed more strikes, and bigger strikes. A teep that folded dc, two body kick that clearly affected him, jabs snapping his head back the whole round, good 1-2s, multiple big knees, a specific 1-2 that wobbled him slightly. Maybe 1 or 2 strikes dc landed in that round stunned gus, but not nearly as many that Gus landed. Even when gus was turned around and couldn’t even see the punch coming, he took the punch without getting wobbled, only when dc illegally punched him in the lower neck did he show a sign he was hit. But becuase DC walked forward getting beat up, he wins the round?

The only reason the media scores were so lopsided are becuase DC moved forward, and because some insane people scored the 3rd for DC. But again, if you’re getting effectively outstruck, and in the 2nd also getting outgrappled, you are not winning. And relying on media scores for support is just appealing to the masses of “journalists” that themselves don’t know how to score fights

And the fact the judges gave DC the fight becuase of the 3rd round is insane to me and should be insane to you too. Talk about clinch strikes all you want, gus never went down, was never out on his feet, nothing. DC was an inch from unconsciousness

Gus did not beat jones and there’s no argument for it. He won, in my opinion, round 3 only. But because everyone hates jones and everyone loves dc (partly becuase of jones), these fights get flipped in peoples minds somehow
 
Honestly it was a damn good razor close fight. Not upset about the outcome but I also don't think I'd be upset if Gus got the nod. Very underrated title fight.
 
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I'm unsure. Remembering the fight as a whole, DC felt like the winner. Gus looked so tired towards the end.
But I know that's a thing where we often remember the beginning and end of a fight more than the middle, and we should focus on scoring rounds.
Gus 100% won the 3rd round. there is no argument dc won the 3rd, and if you think he did you’re extremely biased or just think whoever lands more total strikes should always win the round. He was an inch from unconsciousness. No argument
I agree.
Didn't feel like Gus got that badly outstruck. I think he won the striking for the first 3 minutes (before taking tons of clinch uppercuts).
Knocking down DC should make up for it though.
I think most would've given Gus the round if DC had been saved by the bell.
But just cause that didn't happen and DC was pushing forwards by the end - the knockdown is scored as less impactful, I guess.

The 4th wasn’t nearly as close as i see people say it was. Gus landed more strikes, and bigger strikes. A teep that folded dc, two body kick that clearly affected him, jabs snapping his head back the whole round, good 1-2s, multiple big knees, a specific 1-2 that wobbled him slightly. Maybe 1 or 2 strikes dc landed in that round stunned gus, but not nearly as many that Gus landed.
Yeah I agree
 
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I agre.
Doesn't even feel like Gus gets that badly outstruck. Felt like he won the striking in the first 3 minutes (before taking tons of clinch uppercuts).
Knocking down DC should make up for it though.
I think most would've given Gus the round if DC had been saved by the bell.
But just cause that didn't happen and DC was pushing forwards by the end - the knockdown is scored as less impactful, I guess.


Yeah I agree
Nothing DC did in the 3rd round should have given him that round, but obviously something did. It wasn’t some flash knockdown where dc was slightly tapped by a jab and slipped, immediately popping back up, he was clearly massively affected and couldn’t even stand when it happened. And that’s how you know some people just let their bias take over, cause 50-45 scorecards do exist out there by some people
 
Gus beat Werdum too. I don't care what people say or if they appeal to "web site" decisions to support them, it only means they are bias and insecure in their own opinions because they know they can't support it.
 
Gus beat both DC and Jones. But he didn’t
He didn’t beat jones, officially or unofficially. Even the 1st round people act like a 10 second takedown won him the round when he was soundly outstruck
 
Gus beat Werdum too. I don't care what people say or if they appeal to "web site" decisions to support them, it only means they are bias and insecure in their own opinions because they know they can't support it.
Gus beat Rumble Johnson... don't go online and show me the knockout... if you aren't biased you no 100% for a fact Gus won that fight.
I said at the start i think gus beat dc, not “if you disagree you know nothing”

I said that scoring the 3rd round for dc is biased or ignorant, becuase it is. There is no way dc won that round.
 
Both decisions could have gone either way or been draws, bad luck for poor Gus.
What 3 rounds could you give Gus in the Jones fight to say he won?

This isn’t a poor Gus thread, if you like Gus that’s fine but the point of this thread is just the fact that I believe Gus beat DC, not that he beat Jones, which I don’t think can be argued in good faith
 
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