Who was better, Randy or Dan?

[kfighter]

Randy is the most overrated fighter. He gets H-bombed to oblivion

 

[Mammothman]

One destroyed Fedor the other didn't

 

[dcthegod]

Randy. "Decision Dan" as he used to be known has too many asterisks on his resume with bad decisions. He straight-up lost to Nogueira and he shouldn't have gotten the decision against Goes to even put him in a position to win the UFC 17 tournament, plus he could've/should've lost to Ninja, Kondo, Bustamante, and Franklin. Randy's only close victories were against Rizzo the first time, and I think he very clearly won on points anyway (and then definitively pounded Rizzo out in the rematch to prove that the first fight was only close because he punched himself out and gassed), and Brandon Vera after he'd already won and defended all of his titles and cemented his legacy, and even that fight he won by UD. Randy and it's not close IMO.

bro the vera fight was highway robbery. even randy knew he didnt win that fight.

 

[Rank Squatter]

and Randy was the first double champion in the UFC. So what?

Although true .. not as impressive as being the first Simultaneous Double Champ in the UFC

 

[Mittens]

Absolutely Hendo.

#surfing #beer #noworries

 

[Rank Squatter]

The UFC bought PRIDE while Dan was their double champ, but Dan never won the UFC belts. He lost both UFC title unification fights, to Rampage who was the LHW champ and to Anderson who was the MW champ. So no.

It's very much a YES in fact .. You can try and argue all you want .. But the fact is Dan was the very first Simultaneous Double Champ in the UFC.. it's been proven time and time again .. only for guys like yourself to doubt,deny, and not comprehend what's being said

UFC acknowledged this themselves.. you gonna say they are a liar too right

 

[EYEKICKFACES]

you believe the "natural"
in handy?

Dan was on the sauce. Deal with it, sweetheart.

 

[Bullitt68]

bro the vera fight was highway robbery. even randy knew he didnt win that fight.

I watched it live. I remember worrying that Randy'd lose, but it was a super close fight in which nothing crazy happened outside of Vera dropping Randy with the knee to the body in the second round. The first round was unquestionably Randy's, the second round was Vera fighting Randy off in the clinch for literally the entire round except the 20 seconds or so when he dropped Randy which makes it a toss-up or maybe edge to Vera since he at least had significant offense, and the third round was 50/50 with lots of control from Randy but also a surprise TD from Vera for like 15 seconds. No matter who you give it to, it was way too close to call it a robbery, highway or otherwise. Fights like that, or Penn/Serra, or Ricco/Nog, or Griffin/Edgar, or Buscape/Azeredo, either not enough happens to tilt the scales or it's so back-and-forth that it's hard to point to a clear winner. I wouldn't have been mad if they'd given it to Vera 29-28, but I'm also not up in arms that Randy won 29-28. It was super competitive bell to bell and neither one established clear supremacy. Too bad it was only a three-rounder.

It's very much a YES in fact .. You can try and argue all you want .. But the fact is Dan was the very first Simultaneous Double Champ in the UFC.. it's been proven time and time again .. only for guys like yourself to doubt,deny, and not comprehend what's being said

UFC acknowledged this themselves.. you gonna say they are a liar too right

You're either trolling or demented. Either way, you're wrong. Dan never held a UFC belt. He won a UFC tournament, two PRIDE belts, and a Strikeforce belt. No UFC belts, hence not UFC double champ.

 

[Fedorgasm]

I think Randy was better. I mean people gave him zero chance to beat Chuck that first time, and not much of a chance to beat Sylvia years later. So Randy shocked the world twice.

Plus Randy had fewer tools IMO, which forced him to fight more strategically.

Whereas Dan relied on that powerful right hand way too much, especially later in his career when he forgot that he could wrestle.

Both were tough as hell, and I'd rather meet Randy in a dark alley than Dan, but I think overall Randy was the better MMA fighter.

 

[Rank Squatter]

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You're either trolling or demented. Either way, you're wrong. Dan never held a UFC belt. He won a UFC tournament, two PRIDE belts, and a Strikeforce belt. No UFC belts, hence not UFC double champ.

I'm just stating facts.. And you keep changing what I'm saying to what you're saying.

Dan Henderson was the first Simultaneous Double Champ in the UFC... Point blank period

 

[613]

Hendo > Randy imo

And he did win the UFC title as far as I’m concerned, ping just got a hometown decision as usual.

No fighter in history has got more favorable decisions than "Decision Dan"

 

[AstralPanda]

Gotta go with hendo

Realistically the guy is smaller than a lot of modern welterweights

But he could fight and win against almost anyone.

Randy was good, but not hendo good imo.

 

[AstralPanda]

I think Randy was better. I mean people gave him zero chance to beat Chuck that first time, and not much of a chance to beat Sylvia years later. So Randy shocked the world twice.

Plus Randy had fewer tools IMO, which forced him to fight more strategically.

Whereas Dan relied on that powerful right hand way too much, especially later in his career when he forgot that he could wrestle.

Both were tough as hell, and I'd rather meet Randy in a dark alley than Dan, but I think overall Randy was the better MMA fighter.

I think people forget Dan was actually a problem everywhere during his prime and he wrestled a lot more.

His career ended with him becoming pretty one dimensional and relying on that right hand, but he was much more multi faceted during his peak.

 

[Natural Order]

My money in on Hendo all day.

Two of my all-time favs, love Randy too. But peak Hendo murks the best version of Randy imo.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Dan.

They literally called him: "Dan the Man"

Nobody ever called Randy, "Dan the Man"

 

[Bork Neslar]

Dan Quinn > Handy Coutuire.

 

[broc5k]

Randy was a better wrestler and tactician, MMA-wise.

Hendo was the better “overall” MMA fighter. I feel like he ended up being more well-rounded and durable than Randy, especially later in Hendo’s career. I kinda see Hendo as what Randy could’ve been with a better chin and better striking.

Taking absolutely nothing away from Randy though, he is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all time.

 

[Osculater]

Dan was beating that ass in the UFC, Rings, Pride, and The UFC, again

 

[Megatronlee]

Dan tbh. He was hanging and banging

But Randy beat harder guy in a harder way

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Hendo lost to shields