Who is tougher competition? Old man Stipe or Ferrira?

[koa pomaikai]

Jon Jones and Ngannou is both fighting/have fought lesser competition.

Who do you think is worse? Stipe or Ferrira?

If Stipe was going to fight Ferrira, who do you favor?

 

[VinceArch]

When did Stipe fight again?

 

[omawho402]

Old man Stipe. Ferreira is an absolute bum.

 

[TJH Exitium]

Stipe > Ferreira

How is that even a question?

 

[13Seconds]

I never use the word "fraudchecked" but in the case of Renan Ferriera... Dude looked like James Toney in MMA

 

[b00tysweat]

you realize Stipe has a W against Francis

GOAT UFC HW vs some random big boy with no grappling skills lol

 

[Domitian]

easily Stipe

 

[PeterGriffin]

Even if you count Fereira's 3 NC's as losses, he'd still be 7-5 over 12 fights, since Miocic last fought and got KTFO.

4 years younger, reach advantage, taller, heavier... if they walked into the cage tomorrow, I would not be surprised to see Renan beat Stipe at all. Prime Stipe would smoke him easily, but I don't know what version of Stipe we're going to see in a few more weeks.

Jones has literally every advantage stacked in his favour in this sham other than the experience of being repeatedly punched in the face by HW's. Stipe must think he's Rocky, just not sure which installment.

This fight is a perfect fight for two legends who really don't give a fuck right now except for money. There is zero value in beating a retired firefighter, and the HW title being attached to that fight makes it garbage and meaningless.

I'm not saying Renan is a better fighter than Miocic, he's not. But I think between Francis and Jon, I think Francis faced the more dangerous recent opponent. I like Miocic, but this fight with Jones is a fucking joke. If he upset Jones, it would be bigger than Serra vs. GSP. I just don't see how that happens.

 

[Spiderbite]

It's weird because Stipe being trotted back for a symbolic fight gives him this air of agedness, but the reality is, he was (and probably still is) a fucking killer.

 

[TheMoa]

Ferreira is a can, but do we know in what shape Stipe is?
Last time I saw him talking he said he was a full time firefighter, that it was his focus so he could get a full pension. That was 2 years ago, he was already an old man.

Obviously Stipe forgot more about fighting than Ferreira will ever know, but he's ancient, hasn't been fighting and probably hasn't been keeping up in the gym given his full time job

 

[MarioLemieux]

Even in his old age I'll go with Stipe because he can wrestle.

 

[jko1355]

Old man Stipe would take Renan down and best him up... shit older man Werdum was

 

[tymikeson]

Stipe is going to be ready. He's a smart guy , crafty, and well rounded. Bigger challenge than ferret was.

The only fighter Stipe hasn't beaten is struve from back in 2012.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Jon Jones and Ngannou is both fighting/have fought lesser competition.

Who do you think is worse? Stipe or Ferrira?

If Stipe was going to fight Ferrira, who do you favor?

Stipe is clearly superior in his career. Even if you do the MMAth Stipe in his 2nd fight with Frank lasted longer then Ferreira. He went to the 2nd and actually landed some punches. Ferreira got taken down almost instantly and then it was over.

I think if Stipe and Ferreira fought today it goes one of two ways. Ferreira catches Stipe immediately like he did with Bader or Stipe gets one TD and pounds him out. Stipe lasted 6 + rounds standing with Francis so I would lean heavily towards him pounding Renan out.

 

[orca]

Jon Jones and Ngannou is both fighting/have fought lesser competition.

Who do you think is worse? Stipe or Ferrira?

If Stipe was going to fight Ferrira, who do you favor?

oldman stipe is 2-1 in his last 3 fights
all championship caliber fights

 

[TadDunbar]

Renan kinda sucks. I honestly believe Stipe could beat him immediately after a shift of firefighting

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Not an easy call imho.

Stipe WAS a vastly superior fighter, but he hasnt fought in over 3 years and hasnt won in over 4. Renan has a serious weakness to wrestling but he'd have a massive weight, height and reach advantage, is almost a decade younger and is one of the biggest hitters at HW today.

Basically, it would depend on just how much Stipe has declined while sitting at home into his 40s.

 

[moreorless87]

Stipe at his best is obviously better but his current level is VERY uncertain.

If the situation were reversed and we had an ex UFC champ who hadnt won a fight in 4 years fighting in another org and a new name coming up with some good short term results in the UFC you can bet the new name would be WAY more hyped.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Stipe hasn't fought in years, so I don't know what the state of his abilities are as of today.

He could be clearly pass his prime and be a complete has been, we will see.

 

[J'Ghasta]

Even if you count Fereira's 3 NC's as losses, he'd still be 7-5 over 12 fights, since Miocic last fought and got KTFO.

4 years younger, reach advantage, taller, heavier... if they walked into the cage tomorrow, I would not be surprised to see Renan beat Stipe at all. Prime Stipe would smoke him easily, but I don't know what version of Stipe we're going to see in a few more weeks.

Jones has literally every advantage stacked in his favour in this sham other than the experience of being repeatedly punched in the face by HW's. Stipe must think he's Rocky, just not sure which installment.

This fight is a perfect fight for two legends who really don't give a fuck right now except for money. There is zero value in beating a retired firefighter, and the HW title being attached to that fight makes it garbage and meaningless.

I'm not saying Renan is a better fighter than Miocic, he's not. But I think between Francis and Jon, I think Francis faced the more dangerous recent opponent. I like Miocic, but this fight with Jones is a fucking joke. If he upset Jones, it would be bigger than Serra vs. GSP. I just don't see how that happens.

Um actually Fereira is 8 years younger lol and Stipe would still smash him.