Who irritates you more, ultra conservatives and bleeding heart Liberals?

[ajccoming]

I gotta go with the far left because of the 3rd wave feminists that have come from the group.

 

[smellmyfarts]

GUARANTEE I make more than you, My zip is 60189 look it up haha. So now that is out of the way.
I'm not sure why it matters about district or states
/QUOTE]

So you have 4 roomates that allow you to flip burgers in a nice part of town. Good for you!


Anyways, this is probably light years over your little snowflake mind, but I'm not ready to give up on you.
http://www.dummies.com/education/ma...ution-tells-you-about-a-statistical-data-set/


And cough up that degree kid. I want to know what you wasted your/our money on.........

 

[zebby23]

@smellmyfarts

You can't even quote properly lol

Geez

This is typical of a strawman on your safe space conservative side. We are talking in generalities about who is more educated, who makes more money and you are arguing against something I'm not even arguing. Bizarre but typical

Also did you see the link about how the median income in my zip is over 85K a year since you want to make fun of my college degree? Well I'm WAAAAY over that lol...

 

[smellmyfarts]

@smellmyfarts

You can't even quote properly lol

Geez

This is typical of a strawman on your safe space conservative side. We are talking in generalities about who is more educated, who makes more money and you are arguing against something I'm not even arguing. Bizarre but typical

Also did you see the link about how the median income in my zip is over 85K a year since you want to make fun of my college degree? Well I'm WAAAAY over that lol

I ain't even conservative.......Jokes on you

 

[zebby23]

I ain't even conservative.......Jokes on you

I'd be too ashamed to admit it too

Your post
"but this is exactly why the left pisses me off more. They're so pompous and fucking delusional."

In other words too smart for a guy like you

Lemme guess, you claim to be independent?

 

[Sir Galahad]

The main difference is most of my conservative friends are Christian. And all of my atheist friends are liberal.

 

[Daverisimo]

It sounds like to me in the bold part you are describing someone with common sense and the abilitiy to see each issue on it's own merit instead of resorting to tribalism

Well, while I do think that liberalism has some pretty fundamental flaws (I might write some more on this later,or at least give you some reading recommendations), my real gripe, as I said, is with neoliberalism, which makes up the ENTIRETY of the political mainstream have contributed to since Reagan. The Democrats cover it up by trying to wed that ideology to the politics of inclusion (a spoonful of social justice to help the neoliberalism go down), but they're just as culpable as the Republicans.

Frankly, this is why, despite the fact that I think he's a complete piece of shit, I'm not out screaming at the top of my lungs about Trump. At least he acknowledged, even if in a roundabout way, the damage that neoliberal economic policy has hurt working class Americans. He represents, if only in his rhetoric, the fracturing of the neoliberal consensus that has taken hold of mainstream political discourse

I don't think he's using the term "liberal" in its classical sense.

I actually am.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Personally, since I'm not a muslim or otherwise a minority where I live, nor am I gay or trans, the far right never affected me personally.
Leftists that defend violent criminals affect me more directly as I live in a somewhat dangerous area and it's not uncommon for criminals to be freed just to commit the same crime again.

I think ban-happy extremists of any position are the ones that irritate me most on a personal level. While it's usually people on the left that want to ban things like guns or evil looking knives, there are people on the right that also happy to ban stuff like McCain and MMA and drug hating self righteous religious fanatics although I use no drugs.
An interesting fact is that in Brazil it was the right that was mostly against guns in the past. The right here was not really religious but militaristic and supportive of the military dictatorship.
They allowed the Army to regulate what guns are legal or not and the extremely right wing army made most guns extremely hard to get in order to make it harder for communists to stockpile weapons.
The last communist guerrilla in Brazil ended in 1974. I joined the army for 1 year in 2008, and they were still afraid of the commies.

Since the last decade politics have become more like the US, the right wing is filled with evangelicals and pro-gun anti-abortion nuts that claim to be liberals(liberal as in economically liberal, the former right was nationalist and protectionist) and the left is filled with homosexuals and transgenders advocates(it was formerly made up of unionized workers and rural workers with marxist sympathies).

 

[smellmyfarts]

I'd be too ashamed to admit it too

Your post
"but this is exactly why the left pisses me off more. They're so pompous and fucking delusional."

In other words too smart for a guy like you

Lemme guess, you claim to be independent?

Yeah, that was the basis of this entire thread Einstein. I talk about it in post #1.

You still haven't told us what your stupid degree is in. I REALLY want to know. Being that you're have no concept of decision science/statistics and your grammar isn't at the level of someone with a graduate or post-graduate education, I'm going to say you're either a current student (most likely) or you have some worthless BA in something like philosophy or drama.

Once again, don't lie or we will know.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

One is a hate and ignorance fueled fundamental detriment to a functioning society, the other is a group of whiny, arrogant people misguided by usually caring too much.

I'll take the lesbian who loves muslims over the pastor raping kids any day.

Both have their criminals. Weinstein was a leftist, for example. So was Anthony Weiner, the convicted molester. There is also Al Franken and that old black guy.
It's a cover, rapists and molesters cover their crimes by faking to be either religious or sjw feminists.

 

[phipps66]

That's not actually true. When the media throws their stats out there, the numbers are juiced to show a narrative by not recognizing that there is a difference between a HS graduate and a HS dropout. They also don't take 2 year degrees or technical programs into account. According to the people that create this narrative my grandma who completed a 3 year nursing school program in the 1950's before working as an RN for 40 years is no more educated than someone that dropped out in the 9th grade.

Self declared liberals and conservatives rank pretty equally in regards to education. When replacing the words liberal and conservative with Democrat and Republican, this is how they stack up.

• More HS dropouts identify as Democrats
• More Republicans have 2 year degrees, have completed technical programs, or apprenticeships.
• Traditional 4 year degrees are are pretty close. Clinton won 4 year degree holders in the last election, while Romney won them in the previous election.
• Far more advanced degree holders identify as being Democrats; however, it has been suggested that this is largely a result of degree selection. Republicans tend to gravitate more toward fields in Business or engineering where advanced degrees aren't necessarily required to earn a decent income. Democrats tend to gravitate toward fields like education or the social sciences where more education is required if one doesn't want to work at Starbucks the rest of their life. This raises an interesting question though. Is my sister who has a masters in social work really more educated than my uncle who has a 4 year degree in civil engineering? Is my former college roommate's psychology degree the equivalent of my marketing degree? I can't ever remember him struggling even once in college. There were times when he would be partying his ass off the last couple years during finals week while I was bogged down with 300 and 400 level courses like statistics, finance, and Business information systems. On paper, he is just as educated as I am despite the fact that his degree was as Micky Mouse as they come.

As far as wealth is concerned. Republicans earn more on average than Democrats, and it's not even close. Also, if you remove multimillionaires in that work in entertainment and professional sports from the equation, the gap significantly widens.

Wallethub has a nice graphic
https://wallethub.com/edu/most-educated-states/31075/



Blue states broski. And anecdotal evidence doesn't count either.

 

[Iceberg Slim]

I think they can both be irritating. Sometimes it swings more one way, then goes back to the other. It's an interesting phenomenon for sure.

 

[AFCrookie]

But who's in charge right now and fucking everything up...?

 

[Jopious Extronimous]

Both have their criminals. Weinstein was a leftist, for example. So was Anthony Weiner, the convicted molester. There is also Al Franken and that old black guy.
It's a cover, rapists and molesters cover their crimes by faking to be either religious or sjw feminists.

....so neither side has criminals? I don't agree with the faking part, Weiner can text pics of his dick to 14 year olds and still believe we should welcome muslims in the country with open arms. A priest can firmly believe in heaven and hell and still sexually assault and prey on kids.

And rather than count pervs to gauge scumminess(one side has entire institutions covering horrors, but whatever), I'd rather gauge the reaction to them;

No one on the left wants to see Weinstein and Weiner anywhere but in jail cells, and no one fought to make sure Franken stayed.

But Roy Moore was just supported by the entire right even as he said shit as dangerous as "we don't need any of the amendments after 10".

That says everything to me.

 

[smellmyfarts]

Wallethub has a nice graphic
https://wallethub.com/edu/most-educated-states/31075/



Blue states broski. And anecdotal evidence doesn't count either.

I point out why basing education levels strictly on graduate and post graduate education attainment is completely flawed, while explaining why state, district or county based data sets don't tell you anything, and this is your response.....SMH

Graphics like that are made for dumbshits that have no clue how the data sets were collected or interpreted. You can trust me on this, as I do quantitative research reports for a living.

You need to understand central tendency theory to understand why state based data sets are bogus.

 

[phipps66]

I point out why basing education levels strictly on graduate and post graduate education attainment is completely flawed, while explaining why state, district or county based data sets don't tell you anything, and this is your response.....SMH

Graphics like that are made for dumbshits that have no clue how the data sets were collected or interpreted. You can trust me on this, as I do quantitative research reports for a living.

You need to understand central tendency theory to understand why state based data sets are bogus.

I guess I didn't understand because I take graduating high school as a given. Dumbshits who don't graduate high school don't count in my book. Should be a requirement for voting, whether liberal or conservative.

So if those data sets are bogus, which data sets can be trusted and how can we determine who is richer and more educated?

 

[smellmyfarts]

I guess I didn't understand because I take graduating high school as a given. Dumbshits who don't graduate high school don't count in my book. Should be a requirement for voting, whether liberal or conservative.

So if those data sets are bogus, which data sets can be trusted and how can we determine who is richer and more educated?

The US Census is the holy grail in regards to secondary data sources in the world of decision science. While it is flawed like all major data sources, its sampling size is absolutely massive compared to private research data sources. This means one can assume far more accurate inferences toward a particular target population through its data sets.

 

[MilesAbove]

There are two types of people in this world. The rational and the irrational. I like the former.

 

[deltapapha]

what the hell is "ultra-conservative"? is that like a superhero or something?

 

[smellmyfarts]

I guess I didn't understand because I take graduating high school as a given. Dumbshits who don't graduate high school don't count in my book. Should be a requirement for voting, whether liberal or conservative.

So if those data sets are bogus, which data sets can be trusted and how can we determine who is richer and more educated?

I think what a lot of people also fail to understand is that while self identified Democrats make up the majority of the countries most educated citizens, they also make up the majority of the countries least educated citizens. Basically, Republicans are more clustered toward to middle of the education spectrum (HS graduates, associate degrees, technical programs, apprenticeships, 4 year degrees) while democrats are more likely to be at the extremes of the education spectrum (HS dropouts, doctorates, PHDs). What this creates is a mean educational level that is very similar between both groups despite being distributed differently.

As far as income goes, Republicans earn more on average. It's pretty cut and dry even when using mean income which takes outliers (Pro athletes, entertainers, bilionairs) into consideration. Utilizing the medium or the mode provides a far more accurate interpretation of income than the mean though, which is why they are the preferred forms of central tendency when measuring income distribution in any honest study.