Who ever from MW or lower do you envision to outwrestle current Chimaev?

[TheNewGame]

Would have loved to see him take on Rousimar Palhares. They are basically the same person from opposite sides of the world.

Khamzat would just keep it standing and win with ease. Probably early KO.

 

[Aluminati]

People are acting like Chimaev is the greatest wrestler we've ever seen, but he's not. He's just an excellent wrestler is a division full of guys that can't defend takedowns. He had a hard time vs Usman, and Umsan likely would have won that fight if it was 5 rounds with more than a few weeks notice.

Khamzat loses to GSP, Romero, Weidman, Sonnen. I'd even say Prime Dan Henderson beats him.

As much as I hate him, Jon Jones is probably the best wrestler we've ever seen in MMA, in terms of MMA wrestling. I guarantee you he would absolutely manhandle Khamzat if they fought now, or at 205 pounds in Jon's prime.

Thank you for being a sane rational voice in a room full of nuthuggers. Prime Hendo turns Khamzat into Bambi on ice, GSP repeats the Koscheck fight, and prime Usman would be the favorite.

 

[wisdom blows]

Thank you for being a sane rational voice in a room full of nuthuggers. Prime Hendo turns Khamzat into Bambi on ice, GSP repeats the Koscheck fight, and prime Usman would be the favorite.

Jake Shields ragdolled Hendo lmao

 

[hector domino]

Khamzat's shot is slightly faster but GSP had better drive on his double leg

I have seen both and trust me its not slightly faster its way faster. not only that Khamzat is 10x more tenacious than GSP and will Chain wrestle to the very end. He is also SINIFICANTLY stronger and bigger than GSP. Trust me its not close. No opponent GSP ever faced is half the wrestler Khamzat is along with the size and strength advantage.

 

[Ares Black]

Torrez Finney

 

[Dionysian]

I love Yoel but perception of his wrestling ability solely based on his paper credentials is one of the most casual takes from MMA fans. Did you guys actually watch Yoel fights? Yeah he had freakish athleticism/amazing explosions in general but I'm talking just his MMA wrestling. Watch him vs Brunson and see grappling outside the context of a perfectly timed explosion vs a guy who was standing (Yoel's supernatural category in other words). When you zoom out and look at MMA grappling overall...

 

[Dark C3PO]

I have seen both and trust me its not slightly faster its way faster. not only that Khamzat is 10x more tenacious than GSP and will Chain wrestle to the very end. He is also SINIFICANTLY stronger and bigger than GSP. Trust me its not close. No opponent GSP ever faced is half the wrestler Khamzat is along with the size and strength advantage.

Recency bias

GSP has the best double leg ever, plus he could wrestle at the same pace in Rd 5 as he did in Rd 1, against elite wrestlers. Khamzat had 2/3 attempts stuffed by Usman in Rd 3 and didn't manage to take Aliskerov down once despite attempting like 4 takedowns.

 

[arcadeperfect]

In terms of an overall fight I think Jacare gives him the most difficult fight. He's basically a bigger version of Gilbert Burns, a BJJ world champion that has decent power in his hands.

 

[Deltron 6060]

I mean all peak versions of all fighters, who could make it 50/50 in wrestling department or even outwrestle current Chimaev?

I can see PEDs Hendricks, GSP, Weidman, Romero, maybe Jacare, Luke, Usman, Colby, Khabib, Islam

Not sure about out wrestling him but I believe prime Hendo can keep it on the feet and ko Khamzat.

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Khamzat has not faced ANY credible wrestler in the UFC for me to believe that he would have been a threat to GSP. Georges fought Fitch, Sherk, Koscheck, Hughes, Shields, Hendricks, etc. who were all very successful in MMA using wrestling and GSP still beat them at their own game.

Same goes for Khabib who faced a roster of opponents tailor made for him to look good against. GSP's record is like peer-reviewed research that has credibility and holds up under scrutiny... Khamzat and Khabib's resume is like citing Wikipedia with the sources "trust me bro" being highly questionable. In before shots fired but this applies to Fedor and MANY of the other Pride fighters as well.

Prize fighting involves a lot of marketing after all and if you were around in 2006-2010 when we actually started seeing these "dream matches" happen... you eventually learned that the excuses used for their shortcomings really didn't add up and their records were not all they were hyped up to be. At the end of the day, styles make fights for ANY fighter and if you haven't faced those kinds of match-ups before, they will forever be question marks on your resume.

 

[KO Shotz]

I think Rockhold could keep up with his wrestling & grappling. Jacare would be able to match the grappling & strength as well & could pull off a sub from the ground.

GSP vs Khamzat at 170 or 185 would be very interesting.

 

[Fight Professor]

Younger Usman

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

People are acting like Chimaev is the greatest wrestler we've ever seen, but he's not. He's just an excellent wrestler is a division full of guys that can't defend takedowns. He had a hard time vs Usman, and Umsan likely would have won that fight if it was 5 rounds with more than a few weeks notice.

Khamzat loses to GSP, Romero, Weidman, Sonnen. I'd even say Prime Dan Henderson beats him.

As much as I hate him, Jon Jones is probably the best wrestler we've ever seen in MMA, in terms of MMA wrestling. I guarantee you he would absolutely manhandle Khamzat if they fought now, or at 205 pounds in Jon's prime.

"hard time with Usman" when he 10-8'd him in the 1st with grapplefucking then broke his hand lol get real hard time with Usman

Who btw is one of the best wresters in UFC history himself. absolutely fucking handled when they were both fresh

 

[fortheo]

Nobody. Everyone who just won their first title fight and has beat one wrestler in the UFC is obviously the best mma wrestler of all time.




Never change sherdog

 

[Alpha_T83]

"hard time with Usman" when he 10-8'd him in the 1st with grapplefucking then broke his hand lol get real hard time with Usman

Who btw is one of the best wresters in UFC history himself. absolutely fucking handled when they were both fresh

Yes... and I said in my post, Usman didn't have a full camp to prepare for that fight, and he won the 3rd round on two of the scorecards. With a full fight camp I believe he wins that fight.

 

[DiazSlap]

and Kevin Lee was training with Gordon Ryan, doesn't mean he can grapple like him.

Every single ounce of footage from that day shows Abdulrashid ragdolling Khamzat like a child.

The Bores hype is unreal….people need to chill TFO.

 

[srxon]

Only someone from the Caucasus region can beat them in wrestling.. Those guys have wrestling at a higher level and it's part of their tradition. Well, you saw what he did to DDP or how he destroyed Usman. Prime GSP don't have a chance at all ....

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

I mean all peak versions of all fighters, who could make it 50/50 in wrestling department or even outwrestle current Chimaev?

I can see PEDs Hendricks, GSP, Weidman, Romero, maybe Jacare, Luke, Usman, Colby, Khabib, Islam

I thought you were just talking about today. If he gets back to ww: Brady (I've said for years be a tough fight for Khamzat), Islam, maybe Shavkat if he comes back 100%.

MW Fluffy and RDR.

All time is harder to guess at Wiedman, Dan Henderson and back at ww Hughes and Fitch.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Khamzat is a bit a better wrestler than Khabib, Khabib on the other hand has depth in Judo, and a better BJJ/MMA ground game.

The better grappler is Khabib, Khamzat is the better wrestler. Khabib is the goat lightweight, Khamzat the goat middleweight, at least skillwise if not accomplishment wise.

The Skillwise GOAT, that's a new one

 

[Ara tech]

The Skillwise GOAT, that's a new one

You can rate a fighter based on his achivements, or based on his skills.

Which are too different things. Casual. You cannot compare fighters from different eras, because the sport is evolving and did not peak yet, 2025 is more competitive than 2020, 2020 is a lot more competitive than 2015.

Khamzat is the goat skillwise, not achievement wise. He do not even have one single title defence, but he is skillwise the best MW ever. That's a fact. He could beat all MW of all times, at least would be the huge favorite. Anderson Silva, even with his title defense, would get mauled by Khamzat as he was mauled by Chal Sonen, bringing only a puncher chance.

Also, Khamzat's career is not finished, Anderson Silva career is. Khamzat era is a lot more competitive than Anderson Silva era. Facts, facts.
You cannot rate fighters based on achivements, since they are from different eras, and some era are simply more competitive tougher than others, but you can do that with skills.

As Khamzat would destroy all MW of the past easily, probably, so does Topuria, he would destroy all FW of the past, easily.

Casual.