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Opinion Who are US allies?

Well I don't disagree with any of that, I think you can be the most powerful guy without taking advantage of the weak.

So yeah I'm certainly against America being a bully, but I thought this was mostly a thread about illegal immigration and US sending the illegals back to their own countries, which I'm all for.
My point within the thread was about how we have to be careful about punking the leaders of other countries. We can punk the President of Colombia into doing what we want. He can't afford to fuck with us. But after he takes back those illegals, you know that China is on the phone telling him that they would never publicly humiliate him like that.

So, get him to take back the illegals. But don't punk him where the rest of us can see it.

Because now he looks like a bitch and bitches are always looking for a way to get even.
 
My point within the thread was about how we have to be careful about punking the leaders of other countries. We can punk the President of Colombia into doing what we want. He can't afford to fuck with us. But after he takes back those illegals, you know that China is on the phone telling him that they would never publicly humiliate him like that.

So, get him to take back the illegals. But don't punk him where the rest of us can see it.
Petro handled that poorly himself but Trump seems to think he's Don Corleone making offers people can't refuse instead of acting like a polished statesman that uses diplomacy.
 
Petro handled that poorly himself but Trump seems to think he's Don Corleone making offers people can't refuse instead of acting like a polished statesman that uses diplomacy.
Oh he definitely shouldn't have tried to play media games with Trump. It's why I don't think the Colombia situation is a huge red flag by itself. It's a link in a chain, it remains to be seen if the next links resemble it.
 
My point within the thread was about how we have to be careful about punking the leaders of other countries. We can punk the President of Colombia into doing what we want. He can't afford to fuck with us. But after he takes back those illegals, you know that China is on the phone telling him that they would never publicly humiliate him like that.

So, get him to take back the illegals. But don't punk him where the rest of us can see it.

Because now he looks like a bitch and bitches are always looking for a way to get even.
In this case I think he punked himself.

From what I understand the whole issue was around him turning the US plane back because his ILLEGALS were being transported back in a military plane or some nonsense like that... demanding "dignified treatment" for these illegal criminals.

It seems to me that Trump could have just made them all walk back across the Mexican border and find their own way back the same way they found their way in, but instead he was generous enough to transport them back to their own country at his own countries expense.

And then this doofus decides to flex the muscles he doesn't have trying to set the terms of their deportation, that's just asking to get punked.

I mean how did you want Trump to respond to that? I think in this case he handled it perfectly.
 
Who is there left on the world stage that you can rely on?

All gloves are off, and US oligarchy obviously only cares about making its pockets deeper.
If it means bleeding your allies dry, so be it according to them + fuck the environent I guess (" drill baby drill" despite US being the largest producer&exporter of oil on the planet already..)

US isnt competetive anymore with its goods\industry (tnx to all the billionaires moving production from US to China 9ver the past 2 decades lmao) - SpaceX and nvidia (and couple of other companies) are whats still keeping you relevant.

Since US isnt a reliable partner anymore, because Trump wants to tariff everyone (dumbass doesnt even know what tariffs are) + wants to take EU land away (Greenland), its time for MEGA.
Make Europe Great Again - cut ties with US, strenghten its own armies and establish China as our main trading partner while working with south & central america, canada, and Africa (everyone who US pissed off lately).

China is technologicaly more advanced (or is soon to be anyway) + China only threatens it's neighbors and doesn't topple governments across the world like US agencies do.
Dudes are playing the long game and US sanctions are speeding things up.
Yes, Europe should try to make Europe great again, if at all possible, instead of getting cucked and raped by random invaders.
 
Let me ask a much simpler question -- do you think the US should be the dominant power in the world, geopolitically and economically?

Economically and military we need to be far above any other country. That includes being able to provide all of our needs domestically. Only "wants" should require importation.
 
Well, I would say England is probably the only one that would go to war for us. Aussie’s have become total bitches and Canada is a joke militarily.
 
None...although Donnie would really like to be besties with Russia , China and N. Korea.

I don't blame the rest of the world, either. I certainly wouldn't piss on Shitler if he were on fire.
 
So now you've jumped from Communist countries to Chile and Brazil.

Are you too dense to separate immigration from ILLEGAL immigration? Seriously, lets stay on this point for a minute, do you think a country is obligated to let whoever wants to just walk across their border? I myself am an immigrant, I was still young when I arrived, but my parents had to go through a 2 year process to migrate to Canada. My wife is also an immigrant, from Cuba of all places, and she had to wait FIVE YEARS. So not only am I not against immigration, I owe most of what I have to immigration, but LEGAL immigration. Are you too dense to separate legal from illegal?

You visiting a poorer country as a tourist and spending your gringo dollars there is a lot different than you coming into that country illegally and trying to leech of the system and committing crimes in said country.

I don't work 60 hours a week, I have a small business, I work outside and I live in Canada so I basically don't work at all for about 3 months of the year due to the cold. I make a solid living basically working 5-6 hours per day, and only about 200 days of the year... and that's despite Justin Turdo doing all he can to destroy the country, so really I could be doing even better if the place was LESS socialist.

You're a grown man, and you're thinking like a clueless college kid in a Che Guevara t shirt.

oh man
Subject is US, not you working in Canada - aint no one gives a fuck about you or your parents in Canada
Yes, you make a solid living in Canada working just 200 days of the year - thats Canada for you
In US you would be working your ass off cause US doesnt have any social nets like Canada does
 
In this case I think he punked himself.

From what I understand the whole issue was around him turning the US plane back because his ILLEGALS were being transported back in a military plane or some nonsense like that... demanding "dignified treatment" for these illegal criminals.

It seems to me that Trump could have just made them all walk back across the Mexican border and find their own way back the same way they found their way in, but instead he was generous enough to transport them back to their own country at his own countries expense.

And then this doofus decides to flex the muscles he doesn't have trying to set the terms of their deportation, that's just asking to get punked.

I mean how did you want Trump to respond to that? I think in this case he handled it perfectly.
This is an immature post. I think the problem some countries have had is that their citizens are showing up shackled and complaining of abusive treatment. Yes, those people are here illegally, that doesn't mean they're all criminals in the strict sense of the word. Unless they're people that have been caught committing crimes here there's no need to treat them like criminals.
 
This is an immature post. I think the problem some countries have had is that their citizens are showing up shackled and complaining of abusive treatment. Yes, those people are here illegally, that doesn't mean they're all criminals in the strict sense of the word. Unless they're people that have been caught committing crimes here there's no need to treat them like criminals.
Are you too dense to grasp that if you're somewhere illegally you are breaking the law and therefore are a criminal by default?

Like if I was to break into your house, you would definitely consider me a criminal, why is this any different?
 
Are you too dense to grasp that if you're somewhere illegally you are breaking the law and therefore are a criminal by default?

Like if I was to break into your house, you would definitely consider me a criminal, why is this any different?
There's no need to treat people who are productive members of society like criminals. Yes, if they're here illegally then send them back, but keep the shackles for people that have demonstrated criminal behavior not the ones who are just looking for a better life.
 
- At Trump pace. You guys will lose even Hogan and Kid Rock as allies by the end of year.
 
Who is there left on the world stage that you can rely on?

All gloves are off, and US oligarchy obviously only cares about making its pockets deeper.
If it means bleeding your allies dry, so be it according to them + fuck the environent I guess (" drill baby drill" despite US being the largest producer&exporter of oil on the planet already..)

US isnt competetive anymore with its goods\industry (tnx to all the billionaires moving production from US to China 9ver the past 2 decades lmao) - SpaceX and nvidia (and couple of other companies) are whats still keeping you relevant.

Since US isnt a reliable partner anymore, because Trump wants to tariff everyone (dumbass doesnt even know what tariffs are) + wants to take EU land away (Greenland), its time for MEGA.
Make Europe Great Again - cut ties with US, strenghten its own armies and establish China as our main trading partner while working with south & central america, canada, and Africa (everyone who US pissed off lately).

China is technologicaly more advanced (or is soon to be anyway) + China only threatens it's neighbors and doesn't topple governments across the world like US agencies do.
Dudes are playing the long game and US sanctions are speeding things up.
I suspect that soon will be 0 if new stuff will continue.
For example the same Canada during last 130 years in row had been most trustable and valueable commodities and not only this supplier for U.S.
Trump had told that they are " subsidised ". You will see 2 years till next house ....and Trump's yelling after 4 years will end.
 
There's no need to treat people who are productive members of society like criminals. Yes, if they're here illegally then send them back, but keep the shackles for people that have demonstrated criminal behavior not the ones who are just looking for a better life.
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THEY BROKE THE LAW, THEY ARE CRIMINALS BY THAT METRIC ARE THEY NOT.

The guy who does a home invasion and ties up a family, or the guy who robs a bank, they're also just looking for a better life, most are not doing it for the sake of doing it.
 
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