White privilege diminishes our humanity: 10 Commitments for meaningful change

[TheComebackKid]

It says "Olive-skinned" right there in the definition. Obviously it's not meant to be a synonym of 'black'.

This is an olive

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The German word for swarthy is 'schwarz'. Let's take a look...

Etymology[edit]
From Middle High German swarz, from Old High German swarz, from Proto-Germanic *swartaz, from Proto-Indo-European *swordo- (“dirty, dark, black”). Compare Dutch zwart, English swart and swarthy, West Frisian swart, Danish sort.



Adjective[edit]
schwarz (comparative schwärzer, superlative am schwärzesten)

1. black, reflecting little or no light
2. (figuratively) illegal
3. black, having a high amount of melanin in an organ, e.g. the skin
4. (politics, Germany) pertaining to the CDU or CSU (large center-right Christian Democratic parties, whose associated colour is black)
5. (of coffee) without milk

Etymology[edit]
Nominalisation of schwarz.

Noun[edit]
Schwarzer m (genitive Schwarzen, plural Schwarze, feminine Schwarze)

1. A black object or being.
   1. 
      
   2. (specifically) A black person, a person of naturally dark skin.

It is odd though that Benjamin Franklin would refer to Swedes and Germans as swarthy, and not white. I would think Italians and Greeks would be more the olive-skinned, Mediterranean types.

It is not odd when you begin to understand that these people were indeed black and brown. The people that were here to greet theCaucasion Europeans were 'swarthy' and 'tawny' people. The people that were in Europe to greet the Caucasions prior to that were black and brown people.

A swarthy person is like a Wesley Snipes. A Tawny person is someone who can range from Michael Jackson to...well, Michael Jackson.

Again, read the quote I posted above from Giovanni regarding the Carolina Indians in 1524. Is he not describing black people?

 

[TheComebackKid]

The cheese done slid off TCKs cracker. It's Afro-supremacist story time boys n girls...

Hey, if swarthy equals black, and we're playing word games, then golden equals white and King Tut was white. Crazy shit.

I've given you definitions, etymology breakdowns, books, paintings, drawings, quotes from our very own founding fathers literally saying "Europe is black". At some point you become the crazy one.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

did Comebackkid explain how Eurpeans got white after Franklin's death ( late 1700s) given Europe was not invaded or settled by a people that would have "lightened" them up from that point onward.

 

[NoDak]

It's all fun and games until you become a minority in your own country.

Stop trying to scare me, Soul Crusher.

 

[FIMN]

'Progressives' are firmly entrenched in the business of white guilt. If you aren't aware of this, you must be living under a rock.

As someone who spends far more time in progressive circles than you, I've never heard that said or even implied.

Perhaps you have fallen into a right wing news and outrage cycle due to your obsession with racial identity politics, skewing your views?

 

[FIMN]

Which part are you saying no one says? That being born white is nothing to be proud of? Or that it's something to be guilty of? Noth have been said here hundreds of times... Are you denying the existance of white guilt in liberal circles?

No, people like @goldennirvana probably say they are pride of being white (in my experience vecause they have no accomplishments or achievements of their own to be proud of). Rightly or wrongly the white pride sentiment isn't wildly fashionable.

Nobody I know on here or IRL have said feel guilty of being white. You're saying it happens hundreds of times. Could you start by quoting 4 or 5 posters who have said that? I'd be curious to read it.

 

[mixcontactsport]

Everyone should be proud of their self. I've met good and bad people of all color. Race don't really matter. I just like to call out the media and society's bullshit, and people here hate me for it.

 

[NoDak]

No, people like @goldennirvana probably say they are pride of being white (in my experience vecause they have no accomplishments or achievements of their own to be proud of). Rightly or wrongly the white pride sentiment isn't wildly fashionable.

Nobody I know on here or IRL have said feel guilty of being white. You're saying it happens hundreds of times. Could you start by quoting 4 or 5 posters who have said that? I'd be curious to read it.

To be white is to deal in nonstop oppression. Pride is wack af, such things are completely out of one's control and the subject ITT is entirely luck of the draw. Being content is another thing though - as briefly explained I'm very content, like my 'privilege', and don't feel guilty about it 'cause I'm really happy.

 

[NoDak]

Everyone should be proud of their self. I've met good and bad people of all color. Race don't really matter. I just like to call out the media and society's bullshit, and people here hate me for it.

Nah, I love you.

 

[Bald1]

I've given you definitions, etymology breakdowns, books, paintings, drawings, quotes from our very own founding fathers literally saying "Europe is black". At some point you become the crazy one.

You are literally spewing nonsense. I was born in a country established by the last of the great migration people. This was swarthy over 1100 years ago. I've seen hundreds of paintings in European museums depicting all sorts of time periods. Are you telling me they were all fakes? Lol

Not quite white, but nowhere near black. You're propagating slavery era 1 drop rule bullshit. A minor variation does not a black man make. Regardless of what some old timey slave owner says. Your need to be prideful is leading you astray my man.

As for "black" native Americans - My nieces are half Cree. One takes after her dad and turns black in the summer. The other is light skinned/eyed/haired like I am. I know many natives and they vary tribe by tribe, but black by the usual definition none are.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Why does anyone pay attention to this shit?

 

[FIMN]

To be white is to deal in nonstop oppression. Pride is wack af, such things are completely out of one's control and the subject ITT is entirely luck of the draw. Being content is another thing though - as briefly explained I'm very content, like my 'privilege', and don't feel guilty about it 'cause I'm really happy.

Yep life is great if you're not a whiny little bitch who obsesses over trannies and other identity politics nonsense like @goldennirvana or @abiG.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

No, people like @goldennirvana probably say they are pride of being white (in my experience vecause they have no accomplishments or achievements of their own to be proud of). Rightly or wrongly the white pride sentiment isn't wildly fashionable.

Nobody I know on here or IRL have said feel guilty of being white. You're saying it happens hundreds of times. Could you start by quoting 4 or 5 posters who have said that? I'd be curious to read it.

There have been loads of threads on the topic.

 

[FIMN]

There have been loads of threads on the topic.

Post them then? I've never seen a thread about white privilege or trannies that weren't brought up by a right winger, from memory.

 

[splendica]

By being arrogant enough to claim that you're privileged... Implies that you are better than other people. Which is why minorities don't even use the term.

Only white losers who were told to feel bad and guilty about something they have no control over use the term privileged. Could you stick your fucking nose in the air any higher?

Well said. To me this same arrogance comes into play in the bigotry of lowered expectations.

 

[TeTe]

Why does anyone pay attention to this shit?

Cause it's fun mocking it. I suppose we're giving it an audience and that's probably not good. But this low hanging fruit is too easy.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Why does anyone pay attention to this shit?

You're supposed to pay attention in class.

 

[splendica]

There's this park I go to regularly where as a "visible majority" I represent about 1 percent of the attendance at any time you go there. Literally. One average day for the heck of it I counted the visible majority because it was so easy. Probably 400 to 500 people (families mostly) and there a total of 5 of us visible majority folk. I found it almost humorous.

 

[TheComebackKid]

You are literally spewing nonsense. I was born in a country established by the last of the great migration people. This was swarthy over 1100 years ago. I've seen hundreds of paintings in European museums depicting all sorts of time periods. Are you telling me they were all fakes? Lol

As far as paintings and sculptures being fake I believe that many are. I haven't fully researched this topic enough to adequately argue it but the idea of the west "whitening" up paintings and statues has been a common notion and belief for years. Are these fake?

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Do these people qualify as black?

Not quite white, but nowhere near black. You're propagating slavery era 1 drop rule bullshit. A minor variation does not a black man make. Regardless of what some old timey slave owner says. Your need to be prideful is leading you astray my man.

This is what precedes the Ben Franklin quote that posted:

Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

You see? Ben Franklin is talking about people of whom could not acquire his complexion. If swarthy and tawny simply referred to white guys with a tan then Ben Franklin would not be lamenting about not being able to acquire the same complexion.

As for "black" native Americans - My nieces are half Cree. One takes after her dad and turns black in the summer. The other is light skinned/eyed/haired like I am. I know many natives and they vary tribe by tribe, but black by the usual definition none are.

Well you are right about this. "Black" is a term denoting race(which is a made up concept my mind still falls for) when what were really talking about is nationalities. The original people who were in prior to the Angelo Saxons was referred to as "the copper colored races of America". They belonged to different nations and tribes with different looks and characteristics. They weren't simply a bunch of "black africans"(althought that is in the mix) like we think of when we say black. No, they were copper colored and ranged from "light to deep dark" with hair that ranged from "curly in the extreme to all manners of wavy"...exactly like the Black Americans of today.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Post them then? I've never seen a thread about white privilege or trannies that weren't brought up by a right winger, from memory.

You're just as capable of googling them as me. I'm not wasting my day off arguing with someone who's already convinced they are right about everything.