White liberals are the only SELF HATING group

[Islam Imamate]

Leftists view POCS as lab rats of sorts, something to be studied and viewed from above and nudged around. The idea that a POC might be doing just fine is alien to them, in fact it saddens and annoys them because they see their 'help' as necessary.

And when a POC tells them "No" that's when the insults start flying, uncle tom, Banana etc...

The idea that a person can't be authentic unless some white leftest puts their seal of approval on them first, almost like a branding of sorts. The whole premise is demented and sick.

this is a great way of putting it...and then even challenging the blackness of certain POCs. these people are sick. I'm going to try and find that clip of that WPEM female protestor getting in the face of the black police officer.

There's an old feminist saying that goes something like; "In the game of patriarchy women aren't the opposing team, they're the ball"

I think that applies to identity politics and minorities; the minorities aren't the other team but just the ball that both sides use to score points against the other. Left-liberals will point to the plight of minorities to score against right wingers and the right will point to minority criminality to score against the left liberals.

And on that note this was a good line from the aforementioned review of White Fragility

Corporate America doubtless views the current protest movement as something that can be addressed as an H.R. matter, among other things by hiring thousands of DiAngelos to institute codes for the proper mode of Black-white workplace interaction.

If you’re wondering what that might look like, here’s DiAngelo explaining how she handled the fallout from making a bad joke while she was “facilitating antiracism training” at the office of one of her clients.

When one employee responds negatively to the training, DiAngelo quips the person must have been put off by one of her Black female team members: “The white people,” she says, “were scared by Deborah’s hair.” (White priests of antiracism like DiAngelo seem universally to be more awkward and clueless around minorities than your average Trump-supporting construction worker).

And speaking of construction workers it reminds me of a critique of political correctness that Zizek, a leftist but not a liberal, makes. Basically while political correctness is ostensibly supposed to protect minorities its in fact a discourse that is overwhelmingly associated with white upper class liberals. Working class folks tend to use vulgar language so the rise of political correctness among the liberal left has actually alienated one of its traditional voting blocs.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I'm also not a fan of this kind of HR anti-racism, I think its based on pseudo-science and is counter-productive. But my point is that its actually left-liberals who are more likely to focus on BS like this while more radical leftists seek deeper change. Think about it, DiAngelo is perfectly comfortable working within the corporate system, she just wants her specific PC worldview to influence what is seen as acceptable corporate behavior and ethics. Someone more to the left like Sanders would be more critical of the underlying corporate system himself, hence his proposal to give workers a partial ownership of the corporation itself and some influence over its governance.

I'm not saying you have to agree with Sanders on that specific policy or in general but I'm simply making the point that a lot of what you rail agaisnt actually comes from left-liberals while its leftists that condemn this virtue signaling in lieu of deeper, meaningful changes.

This times a hundred. Also due to my inherent dislike of capitalism I'll never trust corporate liberalism.

Haha we probably would’ve! I like punk (Misfits, Clash, Pistols) but was more into industrial music and that whole scene as a teenager. I had a lot of punk and ska loving friends though.

Ha! I have a Clash tattoo and I'm wearing a Clash shirt. My life literally changed when I listened to London Calling. Got real involved in the punk, ska, skinhead scenes and really involved in Anti Fascist Action. Kept bouncing between being an anarchist and a Marxist like an idiot and then I've settled on libertarian socialism (anarcho-marxism lol)

I never got into industrial, more that old electronia indie stuff. What do you think about this? Intro5pect was hands down the best electro-anarcho punk maybe ever.

To live without a heart
Another migrant family is torn apart
The xenophobia's here
But life inside a bubble that is full of fear
Will crush your soul inside
Another empty shell full of national pride
To live inside a cage
Cutting grass or washing dishes for a slavery

If you're into death metal all (I actually can't stand metal) leftover crack combines the fucked aspects of death metal with political Anarcho punk and ska. Check out One Dead Cop and Gang Control. Goood shit.

 

[jrams]

The graph from the OP is about a gap in warmth that white liberals (easily identified in the data) feel about other white liberals...even though the warmth towards white liberals or white conservatives is never asked. Only warmth towards "whites" is asked, not whites based on political ideology.

That's exactly what the chart says. "Mean In-Group Bias by Race/Ethnicity". Why do you think they are asking for preference of other white liberals?

 

[A Lurker]

Are incels a political group?

They are a self hating group, which is the title of the thread.

 

[jrams]

This times a hundred. Also due to my inherent dislike of capitalism I'll never trust corporate liberalism.

Politics and capitalism only align when the $$$ aligns. And if you don't have the popular opinion, you are forced to just shut up and take it.

 

[BIKES!]

"To anger a conservative, lie to them. To anger a liberal, tell them the truth." ~Teddy Roosevelt

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Politics and capitalism only align when the $$$ aligns. And if you don't have the popular opinion, you are forced to just shut up and take it.

You don't have to. You could work at a welcome center helping tourists, tour the country as a comedian, and be a French Quarter tour guide and really only answer to yourself... OH WAIT THANKS COVID. Jokes aside I've known plenty of actual anarchists who live in squats and hop trains around the country. You can live the life you want. Just have to find out where you belong and what you want to do.

I'm thinking about settling down somewhere like the PNW and get a small little farm for myself. Sit around growing weed and food with like ten dogs and a three legged goat, write a few books, shitpost on Sherdog into my old age.

 

[Halifax]

Lots a racism against white liberals on this forum from righties imho

Yet a lot less than the amount of racism flowing from BLM towards you, so you should be used to it

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Yet a lot less than the amount of racism flowing from BLM towards you, so you should be used to it

I've been to a shitload of BLM protests and I'm attending a violin vigil for Elijah McClain Sunday. Experienced no anti white racism, just calls for racial unity. Y'all are fucking silly you know that? You can literally attend a rally. Have you noticed in the news they rarely ever show the organizers and speakers of the movement when they're on a stage as opposed to interviewing random weirdos in the crowd? Why you think that is?

 

[Wingslaught]

PS, for the conservatives and other free thinkers here, if you want to know how the enemy thinks, read their new bible, "White Fragility."

This book is lauded and held in high regard by WPEM, liberal cucks and leftist scum.


it is by far the most ridiculous, poorly thought out, contradictory and of course, racist piece of trash I've ever seen.

but again, it's good research to understand our enemy.

Certain factions of the left want white people to hate themselves.

 

[Rocco Siffredi]

People reference this all of the time and I have not yet found the actual data behind it.

I've read the 2018 Pilot Questionnaire and I can't figure out which questions are the basis for that first graph.
https://electionstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/anes_pilot_2018_questionnaire.pdf

They've been doing this study for a while now and I haven't found a similar reference to the prior studies, only the 2018 one. If someone has a solid source where I can see the data, I'd appreciate it.

Edit: The paragraph from the OP's link says:


I'm not sure if that's where the self-hate allegation is coming from?

The data is from the polls listed in the pics. That is all I got. Now, do you think this is wrong? If so, what is wrong about it?

"I'm not sure if that's where the self-hate allegation is coming from"
um, did you not see this???

THEY HAVE A BIAS AGAINST THEIR OWN GROUP. Pretty sure this is fair to say self hatred...as they don't like their own group as much as every other group.


Seriously, who the fuck doesn't like their own in group the most???? ONLY WHITE LIBERALS. ONLY. No one of any other race and political leaning. NONE.

Why are whites the only race that gets to be made up of two groups based on race and political affiliation?

because if any gay people vote republican the demcrats say they are not gay. Same goes for black or latino or etc

I've been to a shitload of BLM protests and I'm attending a violin vigil for Elijah McClain Sunday. Experienced no anti white racism, just calls for racial unity. Y'all are fucking silly you know that? You can literally attend a rally. Have you noticed in the news they rarely ever show the organizers and speakers of the movement when they're on a stage as opposed to interviewing random weirdos in the crowd? Why you think that is?

video vs your anecdotal and possibly bullshit story


As long as you are kissing ass and not having a different opinion you will be just fine I am sure.

 

[A Lurker]

To anger a conservative, lie to them

Given the current President, no wonder you guys are really angry.

 

[Milan]

Given the current President, no wonder you guys are really angry.

As someone who's not an American, I'm really happy the conservative president in the U.S. is not an imperialistic neo-con.
Refreshing divergence from the warmongering of the Bush and Clinton eras.

 

[A Lurker]

As someone who's not an American, I'm really happy the conservative president in the U.S. is not an imperialistic neo-con.
Refreshing divergence from the warmongering of the Bush and Clinton eras.

I have consistently said, say what you want about Trump; he is no Warmonger. I hope the history books are fair to him, because technically he deserved that peace prize more than Obama.

 

[BIKES!]

Given the current President, no wonder you guys are really angry.

If you don’t take someone seriously you can’t be lied to. Trump’s biggest plus has been how he exposed the swamp: Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler, Schiff, the MSM. Career politicians enriching themselves under the mask of liberalism for years (Pelosi) are the crux of the issues today. These career politicians on the left would rather watch the Country burn for more power in future elections. Mitt included.

 

[Islam Imamate]

"To anger a conservative, lie to them. To anger a liberal, tell them the truth." ~Teddy Roosevelt

The irony of you posting this is just so rich

Quick Take
Viral social media posts attribute a quotation about how “to anger” a conservative and a liberal to President Theodore Roosevelt. But there’s no evidence he ever said it.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/05/unverified-teddy-roosevelt-quotation-lives-on/

 

[BIKES!]

The irony of you posting this is just so rich

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/05/unverified-teddy-roosevelt-quotation-lives-on/

Hasn’t been confirmed either way but the quote is spot on.

 

[Deleted member 579584]

PS, for the conservatives and other free thinkers here, if you want to know how the enemy thinks, read their new bible, "White Fragility."

This book is lauded and held in high regard by WPEM, liberal cucks and leftist scum.


it is by far the most ridiculous, poorly thought out, contradictory and of course, racist piece of trash I've ever seen.

but again, it's good research to understand our enemy.

I read that book the other day and I couldn't stop laughing how arrogant it was.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Hasn’t been confirmed either way but the quote is spot on.

Its almost certainly a fake quote and not only is it fake its also misleading since Teddy was progressive by the standards of the day and even ran as a third party candidate because he didn't think the Republican nominee was progressive enough. From the link

But there is no evidence the 26th president ever made that remark, and experts on Roosevelt cast doubt on its veracity.

“I question its validity, as the terms ‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ were not used to describe opposing political views in early 20th century America,” she explained. “The term ‘progressive’ was used more readily than ‘liberal,’ and ‘conservative’ did not mean what it does today. I don’t believe Theodore Roosevelt would have used this rhetorical juxtaposition.”

Roosevelt was a Republican who rose from vice president to the presidency in 1901 following the assassination of President William McKinley. He was reelected in 1904.

But some of his policies — including his focus on income inequality, government regulation and conservationism — align with the agenda of today’s Democratic party.

“I have never seen this, and doubt very much it is authentic,” Milkis said in an email. Roosevelt “called reformers Progressives, and ran [as] a third party candidate on the Progressive Party ticket. Not until the New Deal was the dimension of conflict between liberals and conservatives.”

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I read that book the other day and I couldn't stop laughing how arrogant it was.

Its trash...

Pisses me off how many times I see It recommended on Facebook by my friends