Which GOAT win was the best between these 2?

Whos win was better?

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Fioretti said:
How did he get to #2 before losing to GSP? Beating unranked Chris Wilson?
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Unbeaten in the ufc with a 8 fights win streak with wins over Alves, Sanchez, Pierce, Larson, Burkman and Fioravanti. Not my problem if you don't know these guys.

How did Okami get number 2 before facing Silva when he had lost to Sonnen and Sonnen's only loss was his 24 mins domination of Silva himself?
 
ThunderStruck said:
Unbeaten in the ufc with a 8 fights win streak with wins over Alves, Sanchez, Pierce, Larson, Burkman and Fioravanti. Not my problem if you don't know these guys.

How did Okami get number 2 before facing Silva when he had lost to Sonnen and Sonnen's only loss was his 24 mins domination of Silva himself?
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Okami had beat Marquardt, Muñoz, Swick, Belcher, Tanner, Lister or JMac. A row of opponents that certainly don't pale in comparison with the ones you just mentioned

He also had taken Shields and Franklin to flip coin decs.
Not my problem you don't know them and you don't watch fights, you read W/Ls on Fight Finder and play videogames and Warhammers
 
pankrat said:
Okami had beat Marquardt, Muñoz, Swick, Belcher, Tanner, Lister or JMac. A row of opponents that certainly don't pale in comparison with the ones you just mentioned

He also had taken Shields and Franklin to flip coin decs.
Not my problem you don't know them and you don't watch fights, you read W/Ls on Fight Finder and play videogames and Warhammers
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1st. The Shields fight was at WW and 5 years prior to the Silva fight.
2nd. You still don't address the fact that Okami should have never taken the #2 spot just because Sonnen lost to Silva (and was 1 min away from embarassing the champ).
3rd. The Franklin fight was NOT a flip coin decision. I've had enough of your blind fanboyism.
3rd. You are the fight finder warrior and already exposed you for having no idea who Pierce is.
 
ThunderStruck said:
Unbeaten in the ufc with a 8 fights win streak with wins over Alves, Sanchez, Pierce, Larson, Burkman and Fioravanti. Not my problem if you don't know these guys.

How did Okami get number 2 before facing Silva when he had lost to Sonnen and Sonnen's only loss was his 24 mins domination of Silva himself?
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Were any if those guys ranked #2, 3, or 4? Nope! Only Sanchez was ranked. How did Fitch skip ahead of 3 people in the ranks without beating them? Okami won two title eliminators, over two different top 5 guys. Fitch beat unranked UFC newcomer Chris Wilson.

The answer to the question I asked you is that Fitch got a favorable ranking by beating 7 unranked fighters and 1 top 10 fighter, who received a favorable ranking himself due to a tv show. He never worked his way through the ranks. Okami did though. Weird.
 
ThunderStruck said:
1st. The Shields fight was at WW and 5 years prior to the Silva fight.
2nd. You still don't address the fact that Okami should have never taken the #2 spot just because Sonnen lost to Silva (and was 1 min away from embarassing the champ).
3rd. The Franklin fight was NOT a flip coin decision. I've had enough of your blind fanboyism.
3rd. You are the fight finder warrior and already exposed you for having no idea who Pierce is.
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Okami shouldn't have been #2, but somehow Fitch should've been? Okami had 4 top 10 wins. Fitch had 1. Fitch held his #2 for 3.5 years while only acquiring 3 top 10 wins. Okami had 4 before his title shot, and 6 during his UFC career. Twice as many as Fitch, but Fitch is so much more deserving of his rank by beating half as many top opponents in a "more stacked" division?

Spin this one, sweet girl. I'll wait.
 
Hey, nerds, what about this? Fitch was finished in both of his losses prior to the GSP fight. Okami had been finished only once in five losses prior to Silva KO'ing him. Still more impressive to decision Fitch than KO Okami?

Where's the logic? Make a case!
 
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Fioretti said:
Hey, nerds, what about this? Fitch was finished in both of his losses prior to the GSP fight. Okami had been finished only once in five losses prior to Silva KO'ing him. Still more impressive to decision Fitch than KO Okami?

Where's the logic? Make a case!
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Stop exposing yourself. Fitch was finished in his first fight and then at LHW. And it was a gazillion years ago when he was like 23 years old.

How about the fact Okami never barely ever had dominant win at MW. Always close, lackluster decisions consisting of wall and stall and lay and pray. Fitch was dominating guys in the UFC.
 
Fioretti said:
Okami shouldn't have been #2, but somehow Fitch should've been? Okami had 4 top 10 wins. Fitch had 1. Fitch held his #2 for 3.5 years while only acquiring 3 top 10 wins. Okami had 4 before his title shot, and 6 during his UFC career. Twice as many as Fitch, but Fitch is so much more deserving of his rank by beating half as many top opponents in a "more stacked" division?

Spin this one, sweet girl. I'll wait.
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Who would you have ranked ahead of GSP for the number 2 spot at that time? Enlighten me.

You need to put rankings into context relative to the division strenght. MW was thin as a sheet of paper. Being in the ufc alone would make you top 15.

Stop ignoring the demographics of the divisions.

Even today the WW division has about 30% more fighters than MWs worldwide. Back in the days it was 66% more.
 
ThunderStruck said:
Stop exposing yourself. Fitch was finished in his first fight and then at LHW. And it was a gazillion years ago when he was like 23 years old.

How about the fact Okami never barely ever had dominant win at MW. Always close, lackluster decisions consisting of wall and stall and lay and pray. Fitch was dominating guys in the UFC.
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Okami still holds the record for most guard passes in MW division history, despite he won half of his fights at MW via striking.

Way to expose yourself as typical shertard. You spend your days on a mma forum while its painfully obvious you dont watch fights nor understand the sport. Genuinely embarrasing nerd you are lol
 
pankrat said:
Okami still holds the record for most guard passes in MW division history, despite he won half of his fights at MW via striking.

Way to expose yourself as typical shertard. You spend your days on a mma forum while its painfully obvious you dont watch fights nor understand the sport. Genuinely embarrasing nerd you are lol
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Okami was never seen as dominating at MW. Fitch was. FACTS.

Oh and where did you get that statistic from? And who cares, at MW the only good grapplers were Jacare and Maia who don't need a million guard passes to land a finish.
 
ThunderStruck said:
Who would you have ranked ahead of GSP for the number 2 spot at that time? Enlighten me.

You need to put rankings into context relative to the division strenght. MW was thin as a sheet of paper. Being in the ufc alone would make you top 15.

Stop ignoring the demographics of the divisions.

Even today the WW division has about 30% more fighters than MWs worldwide. Back in the days it was 66% more.
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Shields, Lombard, Swick and Marquardt climbed to WW rankings just after losing to Okami. Which absolutely destroys your stament, moron.
Muñoz, another guy who got dominated by Okami, also sent Maia to WW, where he stayed at the top for years
 
ThunderStruck said:
Stop exposing yourself. Fitch was finished in his first fight and then at LHW. And it was a gazillion years ago when he was like 23 years old.

How about the fact Okami never barely ever had dominant win at MW. Always close, lackluster decisions consisting of wall and stall and lay and pray. Fitch was dominating guys in the UFC.
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Fitch was finished in 100% of his losses at the time. Okami was finished in 20% of his losses. Who is more likely to get finished? Your last statement shows you never watched fights, fella.

ThunderStruck said:
Who would you have ranked ahead of GSP for the number 2 spot at that time? Enlighten me.

You need to put rankings into context relative to the division strenght. MW was thin as a sheet of paper. Being in the ufc alone would make you top 15.

Stop ignoring the demographics of the divisions.

Even today the WW division has about 30% more fighters than MWs worldwide. Back in the days it was 66% more.
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Why would #2 be ranked ahead of GSP? You mean Fitch? Not a good way to start out a shit argument, is it? Alves, Hughes, and Koscheck all had more ranked wins than Fitch. The "demographic" means shit if you're not beating the guys at the top. Fitch "earned" #5 by beating Sanchez, who was given a favorable ranking for push purposes. He could be #5 at best, prior to his title shot, based on accomplishments. Okami beat #3 Marquardt to earn his, after previously beating #2 Tanner. Okami earned #3, Fitched earned #5. Get good, girl.
 
ThunderStruck said:
Okami was never seen as dominating at MW. Fitch was. FACTS.

Oh and where did you get that statistic from? And who cares, at MW the only good grapplers were Jacare and Maia who don't need a million guard passes to land a finish.
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Do you know who holds the record for most guard passes in the WW division?

@pankrat Looooooolllllllll
 
pankrat said:
Shields, Lombard, Swick and Marquardt climbed to WW rankings just after losing to Okami. Which absolutely destroys your stament, moron.
Muñoz, another guy who got dominated by Okami, also sent Maia to WW, where he stayed at the top for years
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1. Lombard "climbed the ww rankings" with a single win over shields. He then lost all his fights until retirement. Hardly a succesful WW.
2. Mike Swick is a WW. losing to Okami against a gigantic MW is normal. Oh and he didn't really climb the rankings at WW.
3. MArquardt didnt win a single WW fight in the ufc. He didnt climb any ranking.
4. If by "dominated by Okami" you mean losing a split then yeah. Maia should have been a WW from the beginning. Another case for MW being weak as hell. "Kicked Shields ass" LOL you're a complete moron.
5. Stop spewing lies
 
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@Fioretti fitchs losses were a fluke flying knee and a choke in his 1st mma fight, probably before he knew what bjj was
 
ThunderStruck said:
1. Lombard "climbed the ww rankings" with a single win over shields. He then lost all his fights until retirement. Hardly a succesful WW.
2. Mike Swick is a WW. losing to Okami against a gigantic MW is normal. Oh and he didn't really climb the rankings at WW.
3. MArquardt didnt win a single WW fight in the ufc. He didnt climb any ranking.
4. If by "dominated by Okami" you mean losing a split then yeah. Maia should have been a WW from the beginning. Another case for MW being weak as hell. "Kicked Shields ass" LOL you're a complete moron.
5. Stop spewing lies
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Already replied to all that in this threand and you cried about it 20 pages ago

Now you come back repeating lies like Okami gigantic,who even you admitted to be wrong 20 pages ago. Just a truly pathetic nerd.
 
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