Which GOAT win was the best between these 2?

[pankrat]

@Fioretti fitchs losses were a fluke flying knee and a choke in his 1st mma fight, probably before he knew what bjj was

Okami's close fights with Shields and Franklin alone were already more of a credential than aything Fitch had going into his tittle fight.

In top of it, Okami had more top ranked wins than Fitch, and btw, odd for Okami vs Fitch math-up.
https://www.bestfightodds.com/events/wsof-24-fitch-vs-okami-998
Okamia favourite.

Ban is coming for you btw. And would not be the first time

 

[hodhexdee]

Prick, Okami's close fights with Shields and Franklin alone were already more of a credential than aything Fitch had going into his tittle fight.

In top of it, Okami had more top ranked wins than Fitch, and btw, odd for Okami vs Fitch math-up.
https://www.bestfightodds.com/events/wsof-24-fitch-vs-okami-998
Okamia favourite.

Ban is coming for you btw. And would not be the first time

nobody cares about top ranked wins in a weak division, we look at skills here cazzie and all okami did was jab without moving his head afterwards. what would i get banned for what r u talking about

 

[pankrat]

nobody cares about top ranked wins in a weak division, we look at skills here cazzie and all okami did was jab without moving his head afterwards. what would i get banned for what r u talking about

"All Okami did was jab" and you pretend to be taken seriously here when talking about skills? As if Fitch had good striking anyways.
First of all Okami was regarded as one of the best grapplers at the weight range and actually still holds the record for most guard passes in the division. The jab was a complement to his grappling and btw was considered one of the best jabs among grappling specialists.

Talk about weak division as much as you want, the fact is Okami beat Marquard, Lombard, Swick or took Shields to a controversial decision, and every single one of them climbed to WW rankings right after losing to Okami so I guess we should assume WW was weak as fuck as well, right?

You will get banned for talking shit about fighters with retarded statements, I mean deeply retarded. You actually got a post deleted in this same thread if im not mistaken, but hey, keep pretending you actually know what you r talking about Im just saying you won't last much

 

[Fioretti]

Do you know who holds the record for most guard passes in the WW division?

@pankrat Looooooolllllllll

Did he ever do any damage with those guard passes?

Not much. This fighter isn't known for doing damage or getting finishes, despite his record number of guard passes. Do you know who it is? Hmmmm

@ThunderStruck

You scared, homie?

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

Im having a debate with @pankrat and we would like to know sherdog's opinion.

Please mods add a poll.

Which was the best win :

1. Silva's win against Okami (tko round 2)
Okami was ranked number 2 MW in some medias at the time, stayed at that spot for about 2-3 months. He was on a 3 fights win streak at the time. He also lost his very next fight against Boetsh then went 3-1 before moving to the minor leagues.

2. GSP's win against Fitch (UD 50-43, 50-44, 50-43)
Fitch was ranked number 2 WW in all mma medias at the time and stayed at that spot for around 3 years. He was also ranked top 10 p4p in some mma medias. He was on a 16 fights winning streak at the time. After the fight, he went 5-0-1 before losing to Hendricks.

RESULTS up to page 18 :

Okami
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Pankrat
TheMessiah
bjpenngoat
killakillakilla
cade187
youguysneverfought
GIBLERTBAPTISTA
laleggenda27
Fioretti
Baba Ghanoush
Noraaq



Fitch
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ThunderStruck
IngaVovchanchyn
IloveTHIS
SaigeVanZant
PokerandMMA
Koro_11
MRT
TankAbbott4Eva
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D'z
Doctor Stoppage
acannxr
Death By Samson
AbominableJoman
bambammccoy
HHJ
sabretitan
ExitLUPin
TriangleMonkey
Jonesisinnocent
TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle
tehMoose
91 seconds
Franklin U.
SKITZADACTYL
countswagula
fortheo
MCS
Oceanmachine
Lee_
Juzie
Local Plata
Gambit MMA
ch1584
Khabib Khanate
ImLovinIt
Fesaine
knock_you_out
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ferrisjso
Muaythaibrit
The-AxeMurderer
NoBiasJustMMA
Volador
CashMoney1991
jsbx45

Didnt clearly state their opinions
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Reign009 (Seems to be on Okami's side)
capnlarge (Seems to be on Fitch side)
jojoRed (Seems to be on Fitch side)
Bouboumaster (Seems to be on Fitch side)
TankAbbott4Eva (Seems to be on Fitch side)
pick999
gono btw (Seems to be on Okami's side)
RogerD
EYEKICKFACES
Bend NvR Break (Seems to be on Okami's side)
GoofMaster93
moreorless87
Candy Routure (says its a tie)
SuperNerd
TempleoftheDog
chardog (says its a tie)
TheAmericanGazelle
Barteh (undecided)
Thepaintbucket
mjfan23
Typrune Goatley
OverhandRightKayo

Added a poll for you.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Already replied to all that in this threand and you cried about it 20 pages ago

Now you come back repeating lies like Okami gigantic,who even you admitted to be wrong 20 pages ago. Just a truly pathetic nerd.

I didnt have to admit shit.

 

[pankrat]

I didnt have to admit shit.

Yes you did, nerdy boy. Okami was an average sized MW. Actuallly below average by today standards.
Slapped right and left in this your own thread, go play your videogames nerd.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Yes you did, nerdy boy. Okami was an average sized MW. Actuallly below average by today standards.
Slapped right and left in this your own thread, go play your videogames nerd.

You are 100% delusionnal.

 

[Deadwing88]

Fitch

 

[Fioretti]

I didnt have to admit shit.

Who holds the record for guard passes in the UFC WW division?

 

[ThunderStruck]

Who holds the record for guard passes in the UFC WW division?

Probably GSP. He used to at least.

But unlike Okami, when he won via grappling it was some huge lopsided scores 50-43 or 50-44.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Like Fitch over Sánchez or Pierce...

Oh wait. Prick.

Any referee no named MARIO Yamasaki would have stopped the Swick fight btw. You didn't watched it is OK. Go back to you video games, nerdy boy

Any good referee should have stopped the GSP vs Fitch fight.

And there you bragging about how MW Okami should have gotten a stoppage against a WW.

 

[1BadMF]

I am usually more impressed with a finish, especially by KO or TKO.

 

[hodhexdee]

"All Okami did was jab" and you pretend to be taken seriously here when talking about skills? As if Fitch had good striking anyways.
First of all Okami was regarded as one of the best grapplers at the weight range and actually still holds the record for most guard passes in the division. The jab was a complement to his grappling and btw was considered one of the best jabs among grappling specialists.

Talk about weak division as much as you want, the fact is Okami beat Marquard, Lombard, Swick or took Shields to a controversial decision, and every single one of them climbed to WW rankings right after losing to Okami so I guess we should assume WW was weak as fuck as well, right?

You will get banned for talking shit about fighters with retarded statements, I mean deeply retarded. You actually got a post deleted in this same thread if im not mistaken, but hey, keep pretending you actually know what you r talking about Im just saying you won't last much

have you seen how terrible and slow his takedown attempts are, no set up, just a lazy ass slow shot

 

[pankrat]

Who holds the record for guard passes in the UFC WW division?

Maybe, but the fact is he didn't manage to pull off the finishing technique, unlike Anderson Silva, that's why he was #1 p4p, don't forget that Mr. Nerd.

But we are comparing Fitch vs Okami here coward.

 

[pankrat]

have you seen how terrible and slow his takedown attempts are, no set up, just a lazy ass slow shot

He was a clinch specialist and his TDs mostly came from there.
Still, he put a TD clinic on Lombard with single legs as nobody had ever done to the Olimpic judoka in the grappling department.

Dude, you are not fooling anyone. An uneducated white belt whose ban is coming

 

[ThunderStruck]

Hey guys, a mod was kind enough to create an actual poll, so I invite you all to cast your votes!

Thanks all and sorry for the notification!

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[ThunderStruck]

Added a poll for you.

Tyvm!

 

[Fioretti]

Probably GSP. He used to at least.

But unlike Okami, when he won via grappling it was some huge lopsided scores 50-43 or 50-44.

Was he doing damage and getting finishes? Are you going to retract your previous statements on having thr record number of guard passes, or just going to pretend it doesn't apply to GSP?

The man shares a divisional record with GSP, yet you want to trash him for it while you praise your man crush. This makes you a fucking hypocrite, friend. Like, by definition. Epitome of hypocrisy.

Your example of lopsided scores are due to control in grappling that comes with takedowns and guard passing. It's shit when Okami does it, but GOAT lopsided amazing decision victories that eclipse 7 minute knockouts when GSP does it. Classic PeeWee Thunderdamus shit right there, friends! Classic!

 

[Fioretti]

Hey guys, a mod was kind enough to create an actual poll, so I invite you all to cast your votes!

Thanks all and sorry for the notification!

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Desperation is a stinky cologne. You're begging for these guys to vote in your poll on your behalf. Shameless desperation.

Hey, what about when that guy called you out for not counting the 20+ members who liked the first reply saying Silva's victory was better? Those people likely didn't post, but the likes don't lie. Clearly they need to be counted towards Silva, no?