Which GOAT win was the best between these 2?

Whos win was better?

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I chose GSP's win but both were excellent. GSP was absolutely dominant bell to bell. Silva, on the other hand, made Okami look like he'd never been in a striking scenario before. Both great wins from great champions.
 
pankrat said:
Yeah, some of these new mods are surely well intentioned but care too much about mild trolling and not enough about bullshitting on great fighters.

I trust that this new move of sherdog which seems to be imply some of their most sensible customers will be for the better though
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The lot of ya are yellow. Lol
 
Fioretti said:
The lot of ya are yellow. Lol
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I should have taken it way before lol. Poor TS and some of his fellow uber fanboys got flammed. New times though, got have to put more wit on the slapping
 
Taric said:
Include Alves for all I care, he wasn't ranked either. He was 2-1 in the UFC and an absolute nobody at the time.

Fitch defeated Alves when Alves was considered good once and that was in 2010. You don't get to include him the first time.
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The second Alves fight was still close to the GSP fight. Whine about who he beat all you want, he was still top 10 p4p at the time he fought GSP. 8 straight wins in the ufc. Not my problem if you don't know the fighters he beat.
 
Silvas Goat win should be sonnen and GSP probably Bisping or Hendricks...Big rigg was like the hardest hitting 170 pounder.
 
pankrat said:
He used to be way overrated as long time #2 in the division without actually proving it vs top5 opponents, but nowadays I'd say he is a bit underrated. He was so consistent, smart and durable, although PEDs put an asterisk on his career.
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I don't care about now. That "stacked" WW was so overrated and Fitch was a big part of that.

How can almost every fighter in a division be on a 5 fight win streak? They can't unless they're fighting unranked fighters, which is what was happening.
 
ThunderStruck said:
The second Alves fight was still close to the GSP fight. Whine about who he beat all you want, he was still top 10 p4p at the time he fought GSP. 8 straight wins in the ufc. Not my problem if you don't know the fighters he beat.
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The second Alves fight was exactly 2 days shy of 2 years AFTER the GSP fight. The fuck are you talking about? Do you ever actually research anything, man? Fuck.

Who exactly did Fitch beat to get on the top 10 p4p list before fighting GSP? He had ONE ranked win in Diego Sanchez....
 
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Easily Fitch over Okami... but silvas best wins were Franklin Henderson and Vitor based on the timeline.... I think they all three are better than a win over Fitch.
 
jko1355 said:
Easily Fitch over Okami... but silvas best wins were Franklin Henderson and Vitor based on the timeline.... I think they all three are better than a win over Fitch.
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Why do you think decisioning Fitch is "easily" better than finishing Okami? Any insight?
 
ThunderStruck said:
The second Alves fight was still close to the GSP fight. Whine about who he beat all you want, he was still top 10 p4p at the time he fought GSP. 8 straight wins in the ufc. Not my problem if you don't know the fighters he beat.
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Alves in 2006 and Alves in 2010 are worlds apart, what are you talking about?

Alves was 10-4 the first time he fought Fitch, with 0 ranked victories and his best win was Jason Chambers.
Alves was 7-1 the second time he fought Fitch, with 3 ranked victories and his best win was Matt Hughes 1 year removed from being UFC champion.

If you're so clueless that you can't see the difference I can't help you.
 
Fioretti said:
Why do you think decisioning Fitch is "easily" better than finishing Okami? Any insight?
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I just think Fitch was a better fighter than Okami... p.s. I'm a much bigger Silva fan than GSP.... like I said I think silvas three best wins I mentioned were better than any GSP ever had other than his wins over Hughes and I guess undersized Penn.
 
Taric said:
Alves in 2006 and Alves in 2010 are worlds apart, what are you talking about?

Alves was 10-4 the first time he fought Fitch, with 0 ranked victories and his best win was Jason Chambers.
Alves was 7-1 the second time he fought Fitch, with 3 ranked victories and his best win was Matt Hughes 1 year removed from being UFC champion.

If you're so clueless that you can't see the difference I can't help you.
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He also fought Alves, the second time, almost exactly 2 years after fighting GSP. Dude said it was "still close" to the GSP fight. He's all over the place and clearly doesn't know wtf he's talking about. I've always said that the GSP fanatics here are the worst fan base. They will literally try to change math, reality, history, and even word definitions while trying to white knight for GSP being the GOAT. It's fucking crazy, I tell you.
 
Fioretti said:
He also fought Alves, the second time, almost exactly 2 years after fighting GSP. Dude said it was "still close" to the GSP fight. He's all over the place and clearly doesn't know wtf he's talking about. I've always said that the GSP fanatics here are the worst fan base. They will literally try to change math, reality, history, and even word definitions while trying to white knight for GSP being the GOAT. It's fucking crazy, I tell you.
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I have no problem if he believes GSP is the GOAT, I have no stake in that conversation. I do take issue with Fitch being talked about as a great fighter though. Dude did absolutely nothing in his career.
 
jko1355 said:
I just think Fitch was a better fighter than Okami... p.s. I'm a much bigger Silva fan than GSP.... like I said I think silvas three best wins I mentioned were better than any GSP ever had other than his wins over Hughes and I guess undersized Penn.
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Who's a fan of who is irrelevant to me, I'm more interested in knowing why you think Fitch was a better fighter? So much so that decisioning Fitch is "easily" better than KO'ing Okami in 7 minutes. Is it just your perception of where each fighter was, or is there something to back it up? If you analyze each fighters' career and accomplishments at the time of their title fight, Okami edges Fitch in overall quality. The issue here is one guy saying Fitch was "so much better" that decisioning him is somehow more significant than KO'ing Okami. I've listed tons of facts, numbers, insight, debunked false claims, and there is literally nothing that suggests Fitch was even remotely better, let alone so many leagues ahead that it overshadows a flawless 7 minute KO of Okami. They're very comparable fighters, but a slight edge to Okami in overall "quality of opposition". Factor in finish vs decision, and there's no case for Fitch being the better victory or performance.

That's why I asked if you could provide any insight. I'm at a loss for anybody trying to make a case for Fitch. All they can attribute to this is his win streak in which he only acquired 1 top 10 win. Nothing else.
 
Taric said:
I have no problem if he believes GSP is the GOAT, I have no stake in that conversation. I do take issue with Fitch being talked about as a great fighter though. Dude did absolutely nothing in his career.
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That's just what they do, though. They exaggerate the shit out of anything GSP did, anyone he beat, and they downplay every other fighter and division for any opposing GOAT candidate. Again...they literally try to change math, reality, history, and language in order to do so. It's bizarre as fuck, and they always ignore the real shit while spewing their nonsense.
 
Striker Fox said:
That's one writer's opinion tho. imo he was top 10.

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That's Sherdog's official P4P rankings. What did he do, and who did he beat, in your opinion, to earn a top 10 P4P rank? How can you make a case for Fitch to be ranked above any of those guys listed? Especially when he had only 1 top 10 win over Diego Sanchez? Please elaborate.
 
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