Which GOAT win was the best between these 2?

[mortal]

He would've fought like 2 ranked fighters in that streak, 1 fresh off brain surgery. Jon Fitch is one of the most overrated fighters in UFC history

Wait, is that for real? Who was it?

 

[pankrat]

Decisions is basically a stalemate in comparison to a finish, however when considering quality of opponent and it being a one sided beatdown I think objectively you have to side with GSP.

Objectively, Fitch wasnt a superior caliber of opponent than Okami, especially at the point in time they fought for the tittle, acording to rankings, odds or wins over top ranked competition so how its justified to claim a dec > finish? It wasnt a flukey finish or something, it was flawless performance that the referee had to stop.

 

[pankrat]

He would've fought like 2 ranked fighters in that streak, 1 fresh off brain surgery. Jon Fitch is one of the most overrated fighters in UFC history

He used to be way overrated as long time #2 in the division without actually proving it vs top5 opponents, but nowadays I'd say he is a bit underrated. He was so consistent, smart and durable, although PEDs put an asterisk on his career.

 

[pankrat]

The oxymoron is the one acting like Mike Pierce isn't a very solid win. Keep exposing your lack of mma knowledge.

Look up what oxymoron means, julio. Pierce was legit indeed. He lost to Mark Muñoz in his 2nd pro fight btw.

 

[Fioretti]

Okami: 4 top 10 wins
Fitch: 1 top 10 win

Fitch was finished in 100% of his losses when he faced GSP.

Okami was finished in only 20% of his losses when he faced Silva.

Finishing Okami > decisioning Fitch

Is normal.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Look up what oxymoron means, julio. Pierce was legit indeed. He lost to Mark Muñoz in his 2nd pro fight btw.

damn losing to a guy much bigger in your 2nd mma fight what a shame!

You know you've lost the argument when you resort to some sort of weird mma math while ignoring the HEAD TO HEAD WIN of Fitch vs Okami.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Okami: 4 top 10 wins
Fitch: 1 top 10 win

Fitch was finished in 100% of his losses when he faced GSP.

Okami was finished in only 20% of his losses when he faced Silva.

Finishing Okami > decisioning Fitch

Is normal.

How many times have you posted these biased stats already?

And about the so called 4 top 10 wins? What are they exactly?

And why is being finished twice in his first year as a pro relevant to a fight that took place 6 years later. And one of these losses are at LHW.

You want to use losses? How about Okami losing less than 2 years prior to his fight with Silva, while Fitch hadn't lost in MORE THAN 5 YEARS.

Yet you guys call me biased. Hypocrisy at its finest.

 

[Fioretti]

How many times have you posted these biased stats already?

And about the so called 4 top 10 wins? What are they exactly?

Who is being finished twice in his first year as a pro relevant to a fight that took place 6 years later. And one of these losses are at LHW.

Yet you guys call me biased. Hypocrisy at its finest.

We've listed his 4 top 10 wins many times. You don't remember? Are you challenging the fact that Fitch was finished in 100% of his losses before fighting GSP? Or are you making excuses and suggesting that they somehow don't count?

Hypocrisy? What about that guard passing record at WW? Lol

 

[pankrat]

damn losing to a guy much bigger in your 2nd mma fight what a shame!

You know you've lost the argument when you resort to some sort of weird mma math while ignoring the HEAD TO HEAD WIN of Fitch vs Okami.

I dont try to argue with u anymore since very long time, just educate you.
Give credit to top fighters as Muñoz, you will be double yellow for fighter bashing

 

[ThunderStruck]

I dont try to argue with u anymore since very long time, just educate you.
Give credit to top fighters as Muñoz, you will be double yellow for fighter bashing

Why the heck did i get up this morning with a notification of you quoting me? Pathelogical liar.

 

[ThunderStruck]

We've listed his 4 top 10 wins many times. You don't remember? Are you challenging the fact that Fitch was finished in 100% of his losses before fighting GSP? Or are you making excuses and suggesting that they somehow don't count?

Hypocrisy? What about that guard passing record at WW? Lol

How about you list them again.

Im not challenging Fitch's losses, im challenging their relevancy to this thread topic. 100% UNRELEVANT.

 

[pankrat]

Why the heck did i get up this morning with a notification of you quoting me? Pathelogical liar.

stop name calling, darling.
I just was educating u about Muñoz, no need of arguing

 

[Taric]

Fitch's run to become the #2 WW was by defeating Kuniyoshi Hironaka, Luigi Fioravanti, Roan Carneiro, Diego Sanchez, and Chris Wilson. One of those fighters was a ranked fighter at the time (Diego).

That is not hyperbole. That is Fitch's five fights before fighting for the title.

Fitch is easily one of the least accomplished fighters to become a #2 ranked fighter in the history of MMA.

 

[ThunderStruck]

stop name calling, darling.
I just was educating u about Muñoz, no need of arguing

Thats not name calling. If you want to know what name calling is, just look at your post history in this very thread.

I don't need any education from you. I would call that alienation.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Fitch's run to become the #2 WW was by defeating Kuniyoshi Hironaka, Luigi Fioravanti, Roan Carneiro, Diego Sanchez, and Chris Wilson. One of those fighters was a ranked fighter at the time (Diego).

That is not hyperbole. That is Fitch's five fights before fighting for the title.

Fitch is easily one of the least accomplished fighters to become a #2 ranked fighter in the history of MMA.

Funny that you conveniently stopped at 5 fights to make sure you leave Alves out.

 

[Fioretti]

How about you list them again.

Im not challenging Fitch's losses, im challenging their relevancy to this thread topic. 100% UNRELEVANT.

You can go back and review. I've posted it numerous times. If you're not aware of his top 10 wins, maybe you should've done a little research before making such outlandish claims? Hmmmmmm

"Unrelevant", eh? How is it irrelevant that Fitch was finished in 100% of losses when you're trying to compare the losses here? Okami had 5 losses, and was finished once. Fitch had 2 losses and was finished both times. It's very relevant when you're discussing which win was "better". Finishing Okami was less likely than finishing Fitch, and GSP couldn't even finish him, yet Silva finished Okami. This is aside from the fact that Okami had 10 more professional fights, 3 more top 10 wins, and experience in 3 weight classes prior to their fights.

You're really bad at this, aren't ya, fella? What about that guard passing record at WW? Still trying to avoid that one, aren't ya? I suppose you're just conceding that you, once again, didn't really know what you were talking about, and were unaware of how biased and hypocritical those statements were. Is normal.

 

[Taric]

Funny that you conveniently stopped at 5 fights to make sure you leave Alves out.

Include Alves for all I care, he wasn't ranked either. He was 2-1 in the UFC and an absolute nobody at the time.

Fitch defeated Alves when Alves was considered good once and that was in 2010. You don't get to include him the first time.

 

[Fioretti]

Funny that you conveniently stopped at 5 fights to make sure you leave Alves out.

Alves wasn't ranked the first time he fought Fitch. The loss brought him to 2-2 in the UFC, being finished twice, and only having wins over Noble and Chalangov, neither were ranked. His first win against Alves wasn't anything special, but it aged well, as Alves went on a tear after losing to Fitch.

 

[pankrat]

Thats not name calling. If you want to know what name calling is, just look at your post history in this very thread.

I don't need any education from you. I would call that alienation.

Still in the 29th page of your own thread getting slapped by different posters. Finish > Dec and Okami = Fitch at the moment on their fight if not actually superior. It's what it is fanboy

 

[Hatorade]

GSP shutting out Fitch was very predictable but also very impressive.

Anderson actually finish Okami though.

I don't know. I would say they're pretty equal. Fitch was better than Okami, but GSP was so conservative in that fight that it was almost as boring as watching Fitch beat someone up.

Also, this was the perfect time for Anderson to fight GSP at a catch weight. It would have been a 50/50 fight IMO.