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Which GOAT win was the best between these 2?

Whos win was better?


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Oh so now its just one year after "losing to okami" by split decision.

SD vs a top5 caliber opponent. SD as Fitch only ranked win vs Sánchez leading up to his tittle shot in the allegedly "more stacked WW"...
 
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But the poll was about Fitch vs Okami prime vs prime in your own words! :eek::eek::eek:

Holly shit what an embarrassing coward nerd

What the fuck are you talking about. The poll is about which is the best win. What a pathetic sore ass loser.

One day you will mature, re-read this thread and realize how much of a piece of shit you were.
 
SD vs a top5 caliber opponent. SD like Fitch vs the very undersized Sanchez, only ranked win in Fitch's career leading up to his tittle shot in the allegedly "more stacked WW"...

keep going lower. your case is cringe even.

Demographics my friend. 47-11.

Not my problem if you weren't there at the time when MW was being laughed at for being so thin. There was no hype around Okami fighting Silva.

You weren't there obviously. You're just a lil mma virgin drooling over asian fighters.

Admit defeat. You asked me to make a poll. I did. you lost badly. now man up and admit you coward.
 
What the fuck are you talking about. The poll is about which is the best win. What a pathetic sore ass loser.

Dude, have a bit of respect for yourself:

How about you make a poll. Prime fitch vs prime Okami at WW. Let's see if all your dellusionnal assumptions are real.

:eek:

One day you will mature, re-read this thread and realize how much of a piece of shit you were.

projecting hard. is normal
 
You are not in a position to talk about brain, a perenially yellow-carded simpleton who just parrots what he reads on sherdog.
"Okami was defeated before the fight" yeah not moron. Sherdog memes, that's all you know about.

Poeple with a brain including pundits widely regarded Silva as the #1 p4p over GSP, dont forget it Mr Simpleton
hahahaha you good bud? some major butthurt crying from you in here lmao.

GSP GOAT
 
Another popularity poll? These counts are useless and prove nothing?

Silva > GSP top to bottom. It doesn't matter which fight in their prime we compare.
 
Im having a debate with @pankrat and we would like to know sherdog's opinion.

Please mods add a poll.

Which was the best win :

1. Silva's win against Okami (tko round 2)
Okami was ranked number 2 MW in some medias at the time, stayed at that spot for about 2-3 months. He was on a 3 fights win streak at the time. He also lost his very next fight against Boetsh then went 3-1 before moving to the minor leagues.

2. GSP's win against Fitch (UD 50-43, 50-44, 50-43)
Fitch was ranked number 2 WW in all mma medias at the time and stayed at that spot for around 3 years. He was also ranked top 10 p4p in some mma medias. He was on a 16 fights winning streak at the time. After the fight, he went 5-0-1 before losing to Hendricks.

RESULTS up to page 18 :

Okami
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Fioretti
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Noraaq



Fitch
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ThunderStruck
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Volador
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jsbx45

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Reign009 (Seems to be on Okami's side)
capnlarge (Seems to be on Fitch side)
jojoRed (Seems to be on Fitch side)
Bouboumaster (Seems to be on Fitch side)
TankAbbott4Eva (Seems to be on Fitch side)
pick999
gono btw (Seems to be on Okami's side)
RogerD
EYEKICKFACES
Bend NvR Break (Seems to be on Okami's side)
GoofMaster93
moreorless87
Candy Routure (says its a tie)
SuperNerd
TempleoftheDog
chardog (says its a tie)
TheAmericanGazelle
Barteh (undecided)
Thepaintbucket
mjfan23
Typrune Goatley
OverhandRightKayo
It's very clearly Fitch.
 
Did you even read my post you stupid fuck?
Helax, lil Disciple, you´re losin´your nerves...

Your previous attempt was only an admission that you´ve never watched that fight... that´s why you shamelessly tried to deflect with that 'different opinions' "rebuttal"

Now, swallow your pride, grow some balls, & correct your OP jus´like you corrected that 'minor leagues' shit.

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Ahhh..good memories... Lil Disciple Thundersuck at his first MMA event...
 
Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and learn why the stat everyone fucking uses is better than the dumb idea you came up with as a way of lowering Fitch's win percentage for the sake of one argument in one Sherdog thread. You want a fighter's record to be about wins and losses only, but it isn't binary. Fitch has four distinct kinds of outcomes on his record. Your primitive stat doesn't account for that, but the stat that every major sport has used for several generations now does.

And you think this is my preferred stat? You donkey. Here's wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winning_percentage

Here's the very first thing it says: "In sports, a winning percentage is the fraction of games or matches a team or individual has won. The statistic is commonly used in standings or rankings to compare teams or individuals. It is defined as wins divided by the total number of matches played (i.e. wins plus draws plus losses). A draw counts as a 1⁄2 win.

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In the first sentence it discounts your repeated, baseless idea that only team sports count win percentage in the standard way. Then it proceeds to define this very standard way of calculating wins in exactly the way I've defined for you.

You might not be an idiot, but nothing in the way you've handled yourself in this thread is a particularly good argument otherwise. And you may not be a generally ignorant person, but you sure as hell don't know much about sports.

I already linked you to a fucking calculator that also defined the word and gave the formula as: wins/attempts = winning percentage. I'm not reinventing the wheel, I'm just choosing one of two methods that more accurately depicts reality in the case of MMA. It has nothing to do with Fitch or Okami, I would calculate Okami's actual winning percentage the same exact way if he had any draws or NCs on his record. You're just upset that you have no argument other than you disagree with the method I choose. You use fucking Wiki to try and prove your point, but are too dense to see that it proves me right. "Commonly used". Weird, huh? Commonly used doesn't mean "only used" or "standard". It means it's common. It's more common in team sports than combat sports. It's not the only way, and it isn't the most accurate way to do it for MMA as I've tried to explain to you countless fucking times already. A man with a record of 0-0-10 has a winning percentage of 0. He has never actually won a fight. 2-0-1 is not a 100% win rate, as this fighter has only won 66% of his fights. Taking away partial credit for not winning makes for higher accuracy. Anything other than a win is not a win. Plain and simple. Both draws and NCs are attempts without winning.

Why did you ignore my question earlier? I'll ask again: if I used your preferred method of calculating win percentage, does it add top 10 wins to Fitch's resume or no? A simple yes or no answer will suffice. Thanks, friend.
 
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Helax, lil Disciple, you´re losin´your nerves...

Your previous attempt was only an admission that you´ve never watched that fight... that´s why you shamelessly tried to deflect with that 'different opinions' "rebuttal"

Now, swallow your pride, grow some balls, & correct your OP jus´like you corrected that 'minor leagues' shit.



Ahhh..good memories... Lil Disciple Thundersuck at his first MMA event...

Maybe you should read my post again. You are just as retarded as before i ignored you. And you're on the verge of being ignored again.
 
Obviously Silva's win was better.

GSP's record is overrated. It's great, but his fans will have you believe that he beat nothing but all time greats. But really, People like Fitch, Koscheck, Alves, HARDY? are hardly anything to write home about. especially when GSP could not finish a single one of these opponents.
 
The Fitch win and it's not even remotely close. Fitch beat Okami ffs lol.
 
GSP beating Fitch
GSP, easily, silly question and not even debate really.

Your fanboyism won't change the fact that rankings, odds and resume over top competition make it certainly debatable. Actually Okami had more ranked wins coming into the fight.

And stoppage > decision in the eyes of any fight fan who isn't a blind fanboy

The Fitch win and it's not even remotely close. Fitch beat Okami ffs lol.

Way removed from his prime. He also beat Shields the fight next so your "ffs lol" doesnt make it any less of a simpleton argument.
And Fitch got caught by PEDs around that time, the guy was as ripped as ever in his 40. Educate urself Mr. ffs lol
 
GSP beating Fitch

GSP, easily, silly question and not even debate really.

The Fitch win and it's not even remotely close. Fitch beat Okami ffs lol.

Could you all elaborate? Why do you have this perception? Is it only because of Fitch's win streak? Are you aware that Fitch only had 1 top 10 win to Okami's 4 at the times in question? What makes it "not even debatable" or "not even remotely close", and how do you personally feel Fitch was such a higher quality opponent that a flawless 7 minute KO is somehow undeniably inferior to a 5 round decision victory?
 
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@pankrat

Notice the pattern here? The GSP fanatics come in with "omg Fitch was so much better, no contest!", yet give zero insight, and they don't even attempt to actually analyze or assess the situations. They don't even want to try.
 
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