Which GOAT win was the best between these 2?

[ThunderStruck]

That's not how it works. You can't dismiss his draws and NC. Winning percentage is the number of wins divided by attempts. Attempts in MMA = total number of fights. You're wrong....again.

LOL you are reaching badly. Lets calculate loss % then if you're just going to nitpick the ways to compute stats to suit your agenda.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Okami beat Swick, Marquardt and Lombard at their best, all of them went to make a run to the top5 in the allegedly much more stacked WW division right after losing to Okami.
You already saw what Okami himself did to Shields at WW.

Talk me about demograhics and aritmethics, I talk about fights in a fight forum.

None of those guys made it to the top of WW what are you smoking?

And funny that this very fight forum you are referring to agrees with me 47 to 11. No wonder why you were that scared to start the poll

Just admit your defeat.

 

[ThunderStruck]

There´s no different 'opinions': in the middle of the 3rd Rd, Fitch called (!) for a time-out out of nowhere & granted himself some 2 mns to recover. There´s a name for this shit: pro-wrasslin´.
In real conditions, that´s an automatic TKO.

Even if you dismiss this shit, the fight should have been scored 30-27 for Joslin since the KD Fitch got at the end of the first round was due to a headbutt.

Do you have a rebuttal for this or are you gonna use this 16 Wins Streak argument ad nauseam?

Did you even read my post you stupid fuck?

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I'm calculating WIN percentage. Draws, ties, and NCs are not wins. The only relevant numbers are wins and attempts.

Wins/attempts = winning percentage.

A fighter who is 1-1-1 has won only 1 out of 3 fights. He has not won 1.5 fights.

The way you want me to calculate it isn't the law. It's more commonly used in team sports for seeding purposes, and doesn't translate well to individual combat sports. Even if I used your preferred method, the slight increases Fitch would get aren't significant enough to make a different determination in the overall analysis. They're still very comparable fighters, and he still has less top 10 wins. You're clinging to this because you have nothing else to cling onto.

Way to double down on stupid.

Your using a stat that everyone else calculates differently, but using the same name for it everyone else uses. It may not be your intention, but that is deceptive. When shown how you were wrong and why teh standard way is better, you refused to learn and just stubbornly dug your heels in on your own unique and inferior stat. Congratulations, you are a terrible statistician.

 

[pankrat]

Damn it took a while but...

I finished compiling the results!!

See the OP for them!

There´s no different 'opinions': in the middle of the 3rd Rd, Fitch called (!) for a time-out out of nowhere & granted himself some 2 mns to recover. There´s a name for this shit: pro-wrasslin´.
In real conditions, that´s an automatic TKO.

Even if you dismiss this shit, the fight should have been scored 30-27 for Joslin since the KD Fitch got at the end of the first round was due to a headbutt.

Do you have a rebuttal for this or are you gonna use this 16 Wins Streak argument ad nauseam?

 

[HHJ]

Way to double down on stupid.

Your using a stat that everyone else calculates differently, but using the same name for it everyone else uses. It may not be your intention, but that is deceptive. When shown how you were wrong and why teh standard way is better, you refused to learn and just stubbornly dug your heels in on your own unique and inferior stat. Congratulations, you are a terrible statistician.

I havent seen such a beating since Cain JDS II = III

 

[pankrat]

None of those guys made it to the top of WW what are you smoking?

And funny that this very fight forum you are referring to agrees with me 47 to 11. No wonder why you were that scared to start the poll

Just admit your defeat.

- Swick literally made a run to a UFC tittle eliminator at WW righ after losing to Okami

- Marquardt went to became WW champion KTFO all-time great WW Woodley after losing to Okami

- Lombard's standing at WW righ after losing to Okami in 2013 according to official Sherdog rankings:
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/5/Sherdogs-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-67199
2014 - Lombard #5 WW.

#5 was the rank of the highest ranked win of Fitch leading up to the GSP fight.

Doesnt matter how many hypocrites, fanboys, ignorants and monumental nerds of you caliber split bias, it won't change the facts and you have been slapped with facts left and right in this thread this post is just the last one

 

[Fioretti]

Way to double down on stupid.

Your using a stat that everyone else calculates differently, but using the same name for it everyone else uses. It may not be your intention, but that is deceptive. When shown how you were wrong and why teh standard way is better, you refused to learn and just stubbornly dug your heels in on your own unique and inferior stat. Congratulations, you are a terrible statistician.

Says the guy who will give a winning percentage of 50% to a fighter with 0 wins and 10 draws. I literally linked you to a winning percentage calculator that defined the phrase and gave the formula, but you just dug your heels in and swear by the ONE way you personally prefer to calculate winning percentage. Wins divided by attempts. That's it, bud.

Answer this question, please: If we used your preferred method, does it give Fitch more top 10 wins?

 

[OmegaRugal]

Fitch > Okami but i do think Okami is being grossly underrated by some.

 

[Scorpz]

Anderson's win >> GSP's

Finishes > decisions

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Says the guy who will give a winning percentage of 50% to a fighter with 0 wins and 10 draws. I literally linked you to a winning percentage calculator that defined the phrase and gave the formula, but you just dug your heels in swear by the ONE way you personally prefer to calculate winning percentage. Wins divided by attempts. That's it, bud.

Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and learn why the stat everyone fucking uses is better than the dumb idea you came up with as a way of lowering Fitch's win percentage for the sake of one argument in one Sherdog thread. You want a fighter's record to be about wins and losses only, but it isn't binary. Fitch has four distinct kinds of outcomes on his record. Your primitive stat doesn't account for that, but the stat that every major sport has used for several generations now does.

And you think this is my preferred stat? You donkey. Here's wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winning_percentage

Here's the very first thing it says: "In sports, a winning percentage is the fraction of games or matches a team or individual has won. The statistic is commonly used in standings or rankings to compare teams or individuals. It is defined as wins divided by the total number of matches played (i.e. wins plus draws plus losses). A draw counts as a 1⁄2 win.

In the first sentence it discounts your repeated, baseless idea that only team sports count win percentage in the standard way. Then it proceeds to define this very standard way of calculating wins in exactly the way I've defined for you.

You might not be an idiot, but nothing in the way you've handled yourself in this thread is a particularly good argument otherwise. And you may not be a generally ignorant person, but you sure as hell don't know much about sports.

 

[pankrat]

Says the guy who will give a winning percentage of 50% to a fighter with 0 wins and 10 draws. I literally linked you to a winning percentage calculator that defined the phrase and gave the formula, but you just dug your heels in and swear by the ONE way you personally prefer to calculate winning percentage. Wins divided by attempts. That's it, bud.

Answer this question, please: If we used your preferred method, does it give Fitch more top 10 wins?

How is that Ingrid counts aound 40 posts in this thread and still defflects that, contrary to what he/she claimed, Okami had more ranked wins than Fitch in the leading up to their tittle fight and in their whole UFC stints

Isn't hypocrite that someone like that is at the same time so avid on asking people to apologize and correct?

 

[ThunderStruck]

- Swick literally made a run to a UFC tittle eliminator at WW righ after losing to Okami

- Marquardt went to became WW champion KTFO all-time great WW Woodley after losing to Okami

- Lombard's standing at WW righ after losing to Okami in 2013 according to official Sherdog rankings:
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/5/Sherdogs-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-67199
2014 - Lombard #5 WW.

#5 was the rank of the highest ranked win of Fitch leading up to the GSP fight.

Doesnt matter how many hypocrites, fanboys, ignorants and monumental nerds of you caliber split bias, it won't change the facts and you have been slapped with facts left and right in this thread this post is just the last one

Marquardt didnt win a single ww fight in the ufc, shut the fuck up.

Lombard didnt get that ranking right after losing to okami. He beat Shields for it.

As far as i recall Okami didnt beat Lombard at WW. Why does it matter. He is a tiny MW.

Oh and do you like the result of the poll?

 

[ThunderStruck]

I invite you to do the poll, and let's see if someone agrees with your "much superior opponent" bullshit

 

[pankrat]

Marquardt didnt win a single ww fight in the ufc, shut the fuck up.

Lombard didnt get that ranking right after losing to okami. He beat Shields for it.

As far as i recall Okami didnt beat Lombard at WW. Why does it matter. He is a tiny WW.

Oh and do you like the result of the poll?

So as stated, Swick, Lombard and Marquardt went to became top ranked WWs just after losing to Okami. Fact.

None of those guys made it to the top of WW what are you smoking?.

Yes they did. Stop lying u r embarrasing.
Lombard was #5 WW just one year after losing to Okami
#5 was the spot of the highest ranked win of Fitch to earn a tittle shot in the allegedly "much stacked" division.

Such a ridiculous narrative that only nerd dishonest fanboys of the Canadian in sherdog swallow.

 

[ThunderStruck]

I invite you to do the poll, and let's see if someone agrees with your "much superior opponent" bullshit

 

[ThunderStruck]

So as stated, Swick, Lombard and Marquardt went to became top ranked WWs just after losing to Okami. Fact.



So yes they did.
Lombard was #5 WW just one year after losing to Okami
#5 was the spot of the highest ranked win of Fitch to earn a tittle shot in the allegedly "much stacked" division.

Such a ridiculous narrative that only nerd dishonest fanboys of the Canadian in sherdog swallow.

I invite you to do the poll, and let's see if someone agrees with your "much superior opponent" bullshit

 

[ThunderStruck]

Its rather pathetic when a grown man can't admit defeat.

 

[pankrat]

Somebody give the videogames nerd his pills

 

[ThunderStruck]

So as stated, Swick, Lombard and Marquardt went to became top ranked WWs just after losing to Okami. Fact.



Yes they did. Stop lying u r embarrasing.
Lombard was #5 WW just one year after losing to Okami
#5 was the spot of the highest ranked win of Fitch to earn a tittle shot in the allegedly "much stacked" division.

Such a ridiculous narrative that only nerd dishonest fanboys of the Canadian in sherdog swallow.

Oh so now its just one year after "losing to okami" by split decision, in a different division. You are such a liar. What rank was Marquardt? What rank was Swick?

you are one sore loser.