when kicking do you keep your hands up or throw your one down?

Tor33r said:
there is also the whole balance thing. Stand there and just bring your leg straight out with your hands up by your face. Now do it and put an arm out for balance. Much easier. That is why most people will get alot more power when they throw an arm down. It helps their balance.
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i think your picturing the hands up scenerio wrong.. they dont stay stagnant in place.. your actually switching your guard, which in turn switches your shoulders and adds the extra torque in the upper reason.. also the guard is out, it doesnt come up to the face.. the only difference in this variation is that the arm isn't thrown completly back to the body, but it does actually move.
 
when kicking do you keep your hands up or throw your one down?
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When throwing a right kick I throw my right arm down.
When throwing a left kick I throw my left arm down.

I cover my chin with the other hand when possible.
As for what other people do:

I couldn't give a fuck.
 
theres a right way and a wrong way.... which way you wanna do it?
 
Out of total paranoia I keep both up, got sparko'd early last week :(
 
Pinoy Badboy said:
Don't forget the destructive force and off-balancing power of a hard kick. Punch counter? Pfft. Maybe if it's a half ass kick, or if it is caught which is a different story all together.
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Punch counter, pfft? Ramon Dekkers says otherwise.

Anyways, throwing arm back is not really significant. You use your hips for power, take away the hips and throw your arm back all day and you will kick like a retard. Mostly you use arm back to regain balance, there is 0.1% chance you need to regain balance when you right there with your opponent as the chop will work pretty much all the time. Chop away and move, repeat.

And it seems most of posters lack basic education when I say close range, I mean.. 'close' range when you already inside your opponents range you can do 1+2 then cover and chop their leg down as you get out of range (or mix it with pushing them back, and throwing full ', OMG POWAR MT RULES THAI KICK WITH ARM BACK LOLZ' kick).
 
Wow..

Do you even know who Dekkers is and who he's fought?

I'm not even gonna continue this idiotic argument about him. Nevermind.
 
Brooklyn BJJ said:
Punch counter, pfft? Ramon Dekkers says otherwise.

Anyways, throwing arm back is not really significant. You use your hips for power, take away the hips and throw your arm back all day and you will kick like a retard. Mostly you use arm back to regain balance, there is 0.1% chance you need to regain balance when you right there with your opponent as the chop will work pretty much all the time. Chop away and move, repeat.

And it seems most of posters lack basic education when I say close range, I mean.. 'close' range when you already inside your opponents range you can do 1+2 then cover and chop their leg down as you get out of range (or mix it with pushing them back, and throwing full ', OMG POWAR MT RULES THAI KICK WITH ARM BACK LOLZ' kick).
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You seem to be quite sure of yourself.

Please post some videos of yourself demonstrating these techniques.
 
im surprised this thread is still sticking around, ive been reading a couple times and it seems it was answered several times...

dont you throw your hands down for more power while giving up some defense, and for those who keep their right hand up in front of their face(right kick), they give up power for more defense?
 
Capt.Canuck said:
You seem to be quite sure of yourself.

Please post some videos of yourself demonstrating these techniques.
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Yawn, I'm giving my point of view. Not my fault some people think I'm telling them to not drop their hand back when there is low chance of you getting ktfo with a cross/hook/jab.

Statements like *omg if you don't drop your hands its not thai kick!!!* clearly show what kind of pre-teen morons post here.
 
Brooklyn BJJ said:
And it seems most of posters lack basic education when I say close range, I mean.. 'close' range when you already inside your opponents range you can do 1+2 then cover and chop their leg down as you get out of range (or mix it with pushing them back, and throwing full ', OMG POWAR MT RULES THAI KICK WITH ARM BACK LOLZ' kick).
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So why are you putting your hand up if he's out of range?

That is what is confusing me the most about everything you and the other "hands up" people are saying. We're taught to always set up kicks to get the proper positioning and timing, first. In other words, if you throw the kick and get countered with something, you basically fucked up and shouldn't have thrown the kick to begin with (because your setup failed). I generally see a one to one correspondence with this in sparring:

  • If I set up the kick, chances of landing go way up and chances of being countered go way down.
  • If I don't set it up (or I kick after the setup failed), chances of landing go way down and chances of being countered go way up.

I fail to see how having my hand up to defend while kicking fits into that picture at all. It's either a good time to kick or a bad time to kick. Are you saying that you don't set up your kicks? I doubt that. So you must be saying you fight guys who can throw "DROP YOU LIKE A BITCH" counter punches while they are off-balance and out of position. Which would be pretty amazing, but maybe you really do fight guys who are at a Sugar Ray Robinson level of ability.

If you post fight footage of you doing this, I will watch it with an open mind and I won't diss you. You're the one claiming to train MT at a high level, so show us some high-level MT.
 
Brooklyn BJJ said:
And it seems most of posters lack basic education when I say close range, I mean.. 'close' range when you already inside your opponents range you can do 1+2 then cover and chop their leg down as you get out of range (or mix it with pushing them back, and throwing full ', OMG POWAR MT RULES THAI KICK WITH ARM BACK LOLZ' kick).
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Mainly shot selection man, if i'm in range i'll do the 1 - 2 combo instead of kicking because kicking is more high risk.

Bit like doing something stupid like throwing a wild hook when you're not even in range. Personal preference so it's not set in stone just what i like doing is i only like throwing the kick when the opponent is playing elusive and back pedalling from me or if i'm finishing off a combo.
 
vjvj said:
So why are you putting your hand up if he's out of range?

That is what is confusing me the most about everything you and the other "hands up" people are saying. We're taught to always set up kicks to get the proper positioning and timing, first. In other words, if you throw the kick and get countered with something, you basically fucked up and shouldn't have thrown the kick to begin with (because your setup failed). I generally see a one to one correspondence with this in sparring:

  • If I set up the kick, chances of landing go way up and chances of being countered go way down.
  • If I don't set it up (or I kick after the setup failed), chances of landing go way down and chances of being countered go way up.

I fail to see how having my hand up to defend while kicking fits into that picture at all. It's either a good time to kick or a bad time to kick. Are you saying that you don't set up your kicks? I doubt that. So you must be saying you fight guys who can throw "DROP YOU LIKE A BITCH" counter punches while they are off-balance and out of position. Which would be pretty amazing, but maybe you really do fight guys who are at a Sugar Ray Robinson level of ability.

If you post fight footage of you doing this, I will watch it with an open mind and I won't diss you. You're the one claiming to train MT at a high level, so show us some high-level MT.
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Another great post man.

It's a bit like being out of range and just throwing a silly haymaker and expecting to land and not get countered, your opponent has to be pretty incompetent for that to happen.

My opinion is everything comes off the jab and i never open up with a power shot. I've been stun too many times in just trying to land that one power shot.
 
Just when you think the thread is going to die, The Tard comes back in to spout more bullshit.

P.S. BrooklynBjj your "point of view" means two things: jack and shit. You're a nobody, so the way you think a MT kick should be executed means nothing, and makes your point of view irrelevant. Go away.
 
personally i throw my right hand down in a swinging motion when i throw a right body kick.

but then when i went to train in california at Kru rex's gym. he specifically told me not to throw my arm down when i am low kicking. i found it weird as hell but i can see what he is talking about.

also yodsanklai fairtex. if u look at his fight training vids. he doesn't really swing his arms. he lets them down only slightly when kicking.
 
madrobbo said:
Another great post man.

It's a bit like being out of range and just throwing a silly haymaker and expecting to land and not get countered, your opponent has to be pretty incompetent for that to happen.

My opinion is everything comes off the jab and i never open up with a power shot. I've been stun too many times in just trying to land that one power shot.
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Throwing a "silly" or "wild" haymaker is alot different than just throwing a "power shot". I lead with a "power shot" alot, throws timing off.

Haymakers are not powerful punches compared to a technical rear kick or punch etc
 
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