when kicking do you keep your hands up or throw your one down?

[Pinoy Badboy**]

also yodsanklai fairtex. if u look at his fight training vids. he doesn't really swing his arms. he lets them down only slightly when kicking.

This is also very true. He has a bent arm swing type thing going on.

I don't think we are gonna get anywhere arguing in this thread guys.

 

[vjvj]

Thanks thirteen and madrobbo, I mean I'm trying to not sound like a pompous ass or anything because proper setups are still something I haven't totally dialed in yet, either... But I understand them enough to know when I fucked up and didn't do it right So the thought of ammy/pro guys ignoring this and just putting their hand up to defend has me really confused. Maybe I'm just too modest for these boards, sometimes hehe.

Throwing a "silly" or "wild" haymaker is alot different than just throwing a "power shot". I lead with a "power shot" alot, throws timing off.

Haymakers are not powerful punches compared to a technical rear kick or punch etc

Right, but I think you understood his point that if you are throwing anything that isn't a jab or a teep, it's generally a good idea to set it up.

I don't think we are gonna get anywhere arguing in this thread guys.

I know... This thread is starting to make me physically tired somehow.

 

[fumanchu451]

To everyone who says step to a 45 throw your arm down and unleash that powerful kick

What happens if as you step your oppenents coming in anyway you already have it planned that step kick its muscle memory you think time to kick so you take your step and go to kick but your oppenent was planning on coming in regardless now your not out of range at all you have that arm down your going for such a "devastating" kick and boom ktfo

You people say to step but what if your fighting an aggresive guy whos not backing off that 45 aint gonna mean shit if your oppenent is coming in at you.

Muscle Memory its something you do without having to think so once youve decided your set to kick and boom you step and your body unwinds because youve trained it for so long to do just that

You train with your hands up you kick a big hook comes in and catches your forearm or hand are you going to crumple to the floor most likely not

Everyone who kicks with their hand down says its either for balance or power if you have good balance you wont need to drop your hand and is that slight amount of extra power worth a big ko in your opponents win colum? I wouldnt think so you may always kick with your arm swinging and never get caught because your competition isnt the greatest counter-fighter but the big question to all those MT kickers is that one fight were you do get caught is it worth those thousands of times spent practicing throwing down your arm?
Please think about that if you have no problem with getting KO'd then its worth training that way but if you wanna in your entire career want to go with out getting KO'd then is all that added power youve put into your kick really worth it?

 

[fumanchu451]

*double

 

[Payak]

one arm is down but your still covered.you ever been in the ring fumanchu, just curious.

 

[thirteen]

To everyone who says step to a 45 throw your arm down and unleash that powerful kick

{raises hand} yes?...You do realize that it's only a small step don't you? It gets your weight shifting. It's not like you take a huge step and go "hey look at me I'm about to throw a kick!"lol.

What happens if as you step your oppenents coming in anyway

if someone charges in then it becomes a race of what can get to it's target first...my shin to his head or his counter attack.

 

[Payak]

if the opponent is coming in at the same time, the correct technique will leave your head fairly well out of range and covered.
however only if you are using the correct technique, some of you think its not possible, you must not be kicking correctly.

 

[mvisit1]

If someone is rushing straight at me and I step off on a 45 then they're walking into my kick or going past me. Not to mention what waikru above me said about my head being off the line if they're coming straight in with a cross.

 

[AdamL]

if the opponent is coming in at the same time, the correct technique will leave your head fairly well out of range and covered.
however only if you are using the correct technique, some of you think its not possible, you must not be kicking correctly.

Exactly. Here's a pic of how I've been taught to cover yourself up while still generating power:



I'm sure my form isn't perfect, and pardon the lack of correct clothing as I'm at work right now, but this is the general idea. Proper thai kick, hand swinging down to counterbalance and add more power, opposite hand across the jaw/face, shoulder up also to protect the jaw. There's really no openings for an opponent to counter with as long as you've set everything up properly. If you throw this with no set up, then yeah you're open for a RHK, but not much else that I can think of. Just don't throw kicks without setting them up first. *shrug*

 

[Pinoy Badboy**]

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is that....you?

 

[AdamL]

Andrew W.K.

is that....you?

Lol... Party hard party hard party hard party hard party hard!

 

[fumanchu451]

one arm is down but your still covered.you ever been in the ring fumanchu, just curious.

i used to wrestle now im boxing and from boxing i plan on moving into kickboxing after i develop solid hand skills

the kicking question just came up tho when watching ufc with kickboxers who fought in the
80's

 

[Pinoy Badboy**]

KILL this thread!!!!

 

[Double Hyphen]

Seriously.

Pinoy Badboy: I'm curious -- does that Thai writing in your signature read "Muay Thai"?

 

[Pinoy Badboy**]

No it's the name of this Thai Ladyboy that i am madly in love with. Please take me back Phun!!!!!!

lol j/k yeah, it says Thai boxing.

 

[Double Hyphen]

LOL. Thanks, man.

 

[Corey Roberts]

Throwing a "silly" or "wild" haymaker is alot different than just throwing a "power shot". I lead with a "power shot" alot, throws timing off.

Haymakers are not powerful punches compared to a technical rear kick or punch etc

Now you're just splitting hairs. Point i was making was shot selection for the given situation. If you throw a powerful kick in a stupid situation you will more than likely get countered as opposed to setting that kick up.

 

[OldVet61]

The natural path of your arm is to go down. It's gotta go down in order to get that power in the rotation when you turn your hips over.

This is true and is what I do. I use the other hand that is up though to cover my chin. I move my arm across my face so that my chin is in the bend of my elbow. Kind of like when you are trying to put someone in a rear naked choke and they have their chin tucked.

 

[mikasd]

I throw my hand down. Feels more natural

 

[dkickboxer]

if the opponent is coming in at the same time, the correct technique will leave your head fairly well out of range and covered.
however only if you are using the correct technique, some of you think its not possible, you must not be kicking correctly.

You mean like defending with one hand, your shoulder defending the other side of your chin and your head also not being straight up in the line of fire? Holy shit, that is a novel idea. I swear some people aren't even taught the proper thai kick, or at least some who post on this site.