when kicking do you keep your hands up or throw your one down?

[chino0503]

looks like us muay thai guys are wrong about swinging the arm back.
that means my trainers are wrong to and they have had about 500 fights between them.
I have also trained with abidej sit hrun, muay thai fighter of the century, looks like he was wrong to.
muay thai fighter of the century, 400+ fights, and considered to have the most powerful kicks of all time, i'm a fool for listening to him.

brooklyn bjj should expose all these so called experts. show them how to really throw a correct kick.

 

[dkickboxer]

Shut the hell up, you are not Badr Hari and you are never going to be on his level, do thai kick and drop your arm back in close range and I will DROP YOU DEAD, like a BITCH.

Why don't you go learn some real MT, you know not from K1 videos maybe you will figure out that you use your hips to chop down at close range, only complete BITCH will swing his arm back when he is within cross range.

To OP, go ask professional trainer and not some idiots on the internet.

Damn bro, you are so hard. I hope I never have to fight someone like you, I don't want to be DROPPED DEAD, like a BITCH. That would suck. :icon_cry2

 

[Kellogg's]

The part about being dropped dead excactly in the manner of a prostitute or female dog is the most motivating in terms of making me change my mind.

 

[millasur]

The part about being dropped dead excactly in the manner of a prostitute or female dog is the most motivating in terms of making me change my mind.

Having good 'online' fighting skills does not necessarily translate to having good 'real' fighting skills.:icon_conf

 

[Payak]

the heavy weight champion of keyboard warriors is in the house

 

[ssullivan80]

the heavy weight champion of keyboard warriors is in the house

LOL!!! It all just made sense: The only way to throw a low kick and make sure you hold the keyboard in front of your face to protect the counter is with both hands up, impossible to do while swinging the other arm......... i get it know!

 

[One Time]

I train Traditional Muay Thai...I was taught to drop the arm when delivering the kick. It works for me. I've seen it both ways, so I don't really think there is a right or wrong way.

I'll say this, if you drop your arm when firing a kick, you'll gain power whilst losing some defense and vice versa for the other way.

 

[chino0503]

thats right baby!! ahhaha

but i have seen a few top level fighters not drop their hands when they kick. most recently the guy from the last k1 gp. i dont know his name but he's from turkey, he got ko'd by remy with that flying body kick.

 

[chino0503]

gokhan saki is his name.

oh btw... look at remy's arms when he throws the kick.. hahahh brooklyn.... go drop remy dead... like a bitch.

 

[Shabba Ranks]

No, it means you don't train MT on high level and know nothing about counters that come in play when you inside your opponents range.

Well, I myself sometimes hold my hands up when leg kicking in boxing range, but it's mostly out of habit.
However for body and head kicks there really is no reason at all to do it since your leg will be bent, your body will be sideways so basically your shin will be blocking any attempt to move in closer.
You opponent WILL be at least slightly off balanced by the kick.
And if you turned in enough your chin will be almost completely tucked in behind your shoulder, anything else will be covered with your other hand.

Considering all of this I have a real hard time imagining anything significant landing

 

[Pinoy Badboy**]

gokhan saki is his name.

oh btw... look at remy's arms when he throws the kick.. hahahh brooklyn.... go drop remy dead... like a bitch.

Oww, that definitely fractured something, or at the very least left a disgusting shin shaped bruise.

LOL, the last thing i would EVER be thinking of is countering with a punch if one of remy's legs were flying at me full speed.

Get outta the way!!! lol

...wow look at the deep and excruciating pain in gohkan's face. ugghh.

 

[SAAMAG]

I do both, depending on the situation. There are advantages and disadvantages to both...just use what works (for you).

 

[Pinoy Badboy**]

To play the devil's advocate here..

Alot of european and japanese Kickboxers that fight in K-1 or similar rules don't always fully extend their arms down every time when they are in close range throwing leg kicks.

This is probably due to the fact that kickboxers throw alot of punches and low kicks compared to "classic" Muay Thai stylists.

They will still make an arm swinging motion, but they will try to keep their arms bent and up. It seems that they do this mostly with low kicks, but when they throw power leg kicks, they seem to go back to throwing their arms down fully extended.

So they seem to switch between them depending on the situation, the leg kicks with the arm bent up seems to pack less power but more speed, thus more points in K-1 rules.

As far as middle and high kicks though, they throw them pretty similar to Thai boxers, full arm swing and everything.

Example: Dailymotion - Andy Souwer vs. Warren Stevelmans - K-1 World MAX 2008, a video from moltisanti87. souwer, stevelmans, andy, warren, 8

 

[KAYNE]

How is this still being debated? Why swing your arm? Its the difference between kicking like a 8 year old girl or like a mule... You decide.

 

[Rocked]

I do what works best for me. I am a long leg guy and prefer to throw kicks from the outside but, will get into a closer range to throw kicks, and when they are in side its hands up on the outside I will drop my kick side hand. There is no one way of doing things. You have to do what works best for you.

 

[Pinoy Badboy**]

Whether you like it or not, if you wanna kick with power, your gonna end up swinging your arm to SOME extent. Even if both your hands are up.

Look at any martial art practicioner that throws a power kick, a Kyokushinkai Karate guy, A San shou/ sanda fighter, a Muay Thai fighter. The shoulder MOVES, thus the arm does swing, even if it's a halfway swing.

Still don't believe me? Watch these videos of various arts and try to tell me there is absolutely no shoulder/arm swing in the kicks...When it comes down to it, all arts have way more similarities than differences.

Muay Thai may exaggerate the arm swing a little more, but it is still present in other arts.

YouTube - Kyokushin karate speed kick tutorial

YouTube - 2003 Sanshou World Cup Highlight

Dailymotion - Buakaw training in Switzerland, a video from HLbyColargol. buakaw, por, pramuk, k1, kickboxing

 

[Payak]

some people need to understand range, if a man is close enough to punch you, your to close to risk kicking him.
kick from the range you should be kicking from and kick properly, that means swinging the arm and stepping left and covering your face with the non swinging arm and you will not get countered.
different strikes for different ranges.

 

[fumanchu451]

Wow i sparked quite the discussion im glad tho to see the diffrent persepectives people have from dropping their hands to keeping them up and the distances.
I was just wondering after talking to some veteran kickboxers who said there disgusted to see people drop their hands because at least to them any time they saw there oppenent do that they immediatly knew to counter and they spoke about how when leaving there hands up immeadiatly upon returning there kicking leg to the ground they'll fire off a few a punches without having to bring their hands back up.
And in that alves koscheck vid koscheck is wrestling based it looked like if it would have rushed in at an angle alves left hand was way down by his ass if koscheck had the reaction time to move in and fire off a shot while alves was completly unprotected it is fight changing instead he tried and failed at retreating

 

[Pinoy Badboy**]

Are these old-school american kickboxers you were talking to by any chance??

 

[fumanchu451]

By old-school they fought in the 80's