Opinion What's the consensus on Ben Shapiro around here?

[Islam Imamate]

Would you do a man who did that and turned out a hot woman?
I think I'd find him to be a freak, but it makes me think.

Depends on how hot.

If I'm being honest I'd probably do a post op MtF if she passed for a woman out of my league. Wouldn't be proud of it but I'd be lying if I'd say I wouldn't strongly consider it.

 

[Tiny]

Would you do a man who did that and turned out a hot woman?
I think I'd find him to be a freak, but it makes me think.

No.

 

[FIMN]

I know enough about biology that you can't change your Y chromsome to an X.

And every doctor on this planet would agree with that statement.

This is the textbook definition of a strawman argument as nobody has claimed that.

 

[Tiny]

Woah man, slow down. This is all going over my head.

I honestly sped past you 2 pages ago.

I've now lapped you.

 

[Tiny]

This is the textbook definition of a strawman argument as nobody has claimed that.

Then what's the problem? That's what Shapiro's stance on it is.

you - "I don't like shapiro's take on transgenderism"
me - "why because he believes you can't physically become the opposite sex through surgery?"
you - "dude you don't know anything about it!, you don't have a phd!" (typical libtard "feels" bullshit)
me - "I don't need one to know that it is currently impossible to change your chromosomes through surgery"
you- "what a strawman!"

K glad we had this dance. I'm cuttin out now. At least you finally caught up.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

I like this one more. It kinda looks like the Goldust of cat people.

 

[Tiny]

I like this one more. It kinda looks like the Goldust of cat people.

Honestly...get enough of these weirdos and you will get libtards fighting identity politics with you to start adressing that as "fluffy" and changing their litter...

"if only society would just treat them as the cats they are"

 

[FIMN]

Then what's the problem? That's what Shapiro's stance on it is.

you - "I don't like shapiro's take on transgenderism"
me - "why because he believes you can't physically become the opposite sex through surgery?"
you - "dude you don't know anything about it!, you don't have a phd!" (typical libtard "feels" bullshit)
me - "I don't need one to know that it is currently impossible to change your chromosomes through surgery"
you- "what a strawman!"

K glad we had this dance. I'm cuttin out now. At least you finally caught up.

You're mixing up the issue of tranagenderism and the medical procedure of gender reassignment surgery which are not the same thing. You're also suggesting that some kind of "pro" transgender groups (which don't really exist) think surgery change chromosones. Do you not see that?

Shapiro's views on transgenderism are as shallow as a puddle from what I've read. Do you think he has any interest in debating Dr's and researchers who have significant knowledge and expertise in their fields?

Of course not. It's easier to debate kids in college and be a shock jock on youtube and appeal to low information individuals and reinforce their preconceptions about stuff they know nothing about for youtube likes.

I'm all for divergent opinions, but they should be based on being educated on the topic and doing research, which you've admitted to not doing, and Ben Shapiro most likely cares less about than maintaining his shock jock persona.

On a related note - prideful ignorance and arriving at conclusions via your feelings and not wanting to learn more are a fantastic example of the anti intellectualism that has been integral to the overall dumbing down of America.

No offence intended.

 

[Tiny]

You're mixing up the issue of tranagenderism and the medical procedure of gender reassignment surgery which are not the same thing. You're also suggesting that some kind of "pro" transgender groups (which don't really exist) think surgery change chromosones. Do you not see that?

Shapiro's views on transgenderism are as shallow as a puddle from what I've read. Do you think he has any interest in debating Dr's and researchers who have significant knowledge and expertise in their fields?

Of course not. It's easier to debate kids in college and be a shock jock on youtube and appeal to low information individuals and reinforce their preconceptions about stuff they know nothing about for youtube likes.

I'm all for divergent opinions, but they should be based on being educated on the topic and doing research, which you've admitted to not doing, and Ben Shapiro most likely cares less about than maintaining his shock jock persona.

On a related note - prideful ignorance and arriving at conclusions via your feelings and not wanting to learn more are a fantastic example of the anti intellectualism that has been integral to the overall dumbing down of America.

No offence intended.

Shaprio's stance is simple. "You can't physcially change your sex through surgery"

It's that simple.

And he's right. And you just admitted he's right.

So if a man can't become a woman, or a cat, or a baby through surgery...then what's left?

Someone with indentity issues. (unless you think it's perfectly normal to get multiple surgeries and walk around pretending to be something you are not)

I don't think it's normal. I think theirs issues there. I'm very comfortable with that assertion. Because I chose to equate a person who wants to be a cat as the exact same issue as someone who wants to change their sex.

And if that's me being "woefully" ignorant" I'm fine with that.

You can change the cat guy's litter while you are playing "politically correct"

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Depends on how hot.

If I'm being honest I'd probably do a post op MtF if she passed for a woman out of my league. Wouldn't be proud of it but I'd be lying if I'd say I wouldn't strongly consider it.

I never saw a really convincing one to be honest.
I mean, the hot ones look like the super model type, because super models are tall and have square jaws and broad shoulders and being a mean helps in that regard. But they're not really feminine, the way I like it. Photos are also highly deceiving, many look good in pictures but terrible on video.

That's what google shows up for hot transexual

Something ain't right

 

[FIMN]

Shaprio's stance is simple. "You can't physcially change your sex through surgery"

It's that simple.

And he's right. And you just admitted he's right.

So if a man can't become a woman, or a cat, or a baby through surgery...then what's left?

Someone with indentity issues. (unless you think it's perfectly normal to get multiple surgeries and walk around pretending to be something you are not)

I don't think it's normal. I think theirs issues there. I'm very comfortable with that assertion. Because I chose to equate a person who wants to be a cat as the exact same issue as someone who wants to change their sex.

And if that's me being "woefully" ignorant" I'm fine with that.

You can change the cat guy's litter while you are playing "politically correct"

Shapiros views on transgenderism have a significant moralistic element, as well as broad and unsupported claims about classification of transgenderism as a severe mental illness, which is not based on anything other than his feelings and pandering to his largely simplistic and ignorant followers.

 

[Tiny]

Shapiros views on transgenderism have a significant moralistic element, as well as broad and unsupported claims about classification of transgenderism as a severe mental illness, which is not based on anything other than his feelings and pandering to his largely simplistic and ignorant followers.

If you say so. I disagree though.

 

[FIMN]

If you say so. I disagree though.

"I don't know anything about zoology, biology, geology, geography, marine biology, cryptozoology, evolutionary theory, evolutionary biology, meteorology, limnology, history, herpetology, palaeontology or archaeology...

...but I think..."

 

[Islam Imamate]

I never saw a really convincing one to be honest.
I mean, the hot ones look like the super model type, because super models are tall and have square jaws and broad shoulders and being a mean helps in that regard. But they're not really feminine, the way I like it. Photos are also highly deceiving, many look good in pictures but terrible on video.

That's what google shows up for hot transexual

Something ain't right

Even if they seem passing at first glance you can usually tell something's off. The voice is usually the big giveaway but the jaws, shoulder, and hips also give it away. I'm just saying, if I did run into one that was passing for an LA 9 I'd probably consider it but at that point she'd probably swipe left on me.

 

[DoomPatrol]

What if doctors told you to treat this person as a cat now...would you trust them?

"I'll trust doctors to tell me what's best, thanks!"

I don't see a cat in that photo...I see a dude with a mental disorder/identity issues who is PRETENDING to be something he's not.

That's how I feel about transgenders.

While I agree that transgender individuals are mentally ill, it's also a fact that gender is a social construct that isn't necessarily what your biological sex is. And biological sex isn't as black and white as people like to think. There's more that happens with biological sex than just male or female.

And while I accept that medical professionals say the surgery is the best way to help them lead a normal life with the means they have today, I wish they would continue to look into the mental health aspect. But ultimately this sex and gender is really complicated from a scientific neutral point.

 

[Tiny]

While I agree that transgender individuals are mentally ill, it's also a fact that gender is a social construct that isn't necessarily what your biological sex is. And biological sex isn't as black and white as people like to think. There's more that happens with biological sex than just male or female.

And while I accept that medical professionals say the surgery is the best way to help them lead a normal life with the means they have today, I wish they would continue to look into the mental health aspect. But ultimately this sex and gender is really complicated from a scientific neutral point.

Their is something wrong when a person feels the need to play dress up so they dont have to play the part of who they are.

Be it a cat a baby or the opposite sex.

And im not wrong. Get enough cat people going and the libtards will have us install public kitty litters everywhere.

And doctors will encourage us to pet these freaks when greeting hello.

Because libtards are that fucking stupid

 

[MrJak]

He's a very well-reasoned fellow... on just about everything besides religion. Zionism is cool. Actual belief in fairy tales is not.

 

[DoomPatrol]

Their is something wrong when a person feels the need to play dress up so they dont have to play the part of who they are.

Be it a cat a baby or the opposite sex.

And im not wrong. Get enough cat people going and the libtards will have us install public kitty litters everywhere.

And doctors will encourage us to pet these freaks when greeting hello.

Because libtards are that fucking stupid

I agree that it would be considered a mental disorder, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't respect them. The science and medical community do consider it a mental disorder. You wouldn't disrespect someone with any other mental disorder. Well maybe, because you seem like a giant prick by the way you're talking.

And it's not "libtards" who feel like that. It's scientists and medical professionals. They deal in facts. The only people not dealing in facts are the conservative Christians who think it's black and white, male or female. Why don't you get a PhD in biology, and then you might have an opinion that's worth a shit.

 

[Tiny]

I agree that it would be considered a mental disorder, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't respect them. The science and medical community do consider it a mental disorder. You wouldn't disrespect someone with any other mental disorder. Well maybe, because you seem like a giant prick by the way you're talking.

And it's not "libtards" who feel like that. It's scientists and medical professionals. They deal in facts. The only people not dealing in facts are the conservative Christians who think it's black and white, male or female. Why don't you get a PhD in biology, and then you might have an opinion that's worth a shit.

LOL I seem like a giant prick?

Detail that. I'm curious how you got triggered.

 

[DoomPatrol]

LOL I seem like a giant prick?

Detail that. I'm curious how you got triggered.

Why do you seem like a giant prick?


And im not wrong. Get enough cat people going and the libtards will have us install public kitty litters everywhere.

And doctors will encourage us to pet these freaks when greeting hello.

Because libtards are that fucking stupid

That's why. Just like you'd think I was a prick if I said things like that about conservative Christians.