Opinion What's the consensus on Ben Shapiro around here?

[hillelslovak87]

Get enough libtards to cry for it, and they will.

But the point here that Shaprio is making is that is is as impossible to transform yourself into a cat as it is to transform yourself into a woman.

It's a fancy method of playing dress up. But you can't actually change your sex. Regardless of the amount of surgeries.

It's impossible.

And he's right.

Member when dudes dressed in drag, and didn't feel the need to identify as a woman, or even gay? Member?

I miss the 90s.

 

[Tiny]

Research and scientific enquiry are more important than your feelings, or how Ben Shapiro tries to play on your feelings for the purposes of identity politics.

I don't need too.

Show me the surgery that can change your Y chromozone to an X. And that will let you grow ovaries.

Do that, and then you can convince me that you can indeed switch your sex.

This is a man playing dress up because he hates who he is.

He is no less ridiculous playing "pretend" than the cat man is.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

Get enough libtards to cry for it, and they will.

But the point here that Shaprio is making is that is is as impossible to transform yourself into a cat as it is to transform yourself into a woman.

It's a fancy method of playing dress up. But you can't actually change your sex. Regardless of the amount of surgeries.

It's impossible.

He's actually not right lol. He thinks he knows more about the human mind than literal experts on the human mind.


Do you though, me personally, I wouldn't trust a guy who made it through his undergrad in LA with his virginity still intact.

 

[Tiny]

He's actually not right lol. He thinks he knows more about the human mind than literal experts on the human mind.


Do you though, me personally, I wouldn't trust a guy who made it through his undergrad in LA with his virginity still in tact.

It's not a mind thing. (beyond identity issues) Try to follow along.

I asked you how many more surgeries would it take for that man to become a cat?

If you answer "he can never become a cat" then you are right. And you will also finally understand what Shaprio is saying.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

It's not a mind thing. Try to follow along.

I asked you how many more surgeries would it take for that man to become a cat?

If you answer "he can never become a cat" then you are right. And you will also finally understand what Shaprio is saying.

Can you post a few more pictures of that cat-man? I'm really trying to follow along.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2005/06/15/rescuing-a-generation-n1226748

Just wanted to drop Ben Shapiro's "I'm a virgin, and I'm better than you" article again.

Spoiler: The Virgin Ben

As I explain in my new book, "Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism Is Corrupting Our Future," in today's America, being a proud virgin is no easy task. Those with values are under attack in a culture that treasures "tolerance" above morality. It's no wonder that because of my outspoken advocacy of traditional morality in general and of virginity in particular, I've become a favorite target of Internet leftists, who often refer to me as "The Virgin Ben."

They call him "The Virgin Ben"

Come on, some of his fanboys have to think this is a little funny. Just pretend it is one of your least favorite libtards.

Spoiler: The real enemy

R-rated films today often include soft-core pornography; television shows like "Friends" promote a fun-filled, promiscuous lifestyle with no consequences

This is the alpha male people in the war room worship now?

 

[Tiny]

Can you post a few more pictures of that cat-man? I'm really trying to follow along.

You have google, you've seen enough to make your choice.

Is that man a cat? And if not...how many more surgeries would it take to convince you that he is?

 

[Bob Gray]

Do you really think Shapiro has a genuine desire to actually understand transgenderism?

He's an ideologue and troll.

Do you think that you do?

But, more importantly, do you think that someone can have a genuine desire to understand it and at the same time come to a very different conclusion than you have?

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

You have google, you've seen enough to make your choice.

Is that man a cat? And if not...how many more surgeries would it take to convince you that he is?

I feel like you have some desires about cats you need to get sorted out. Not judging though.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

How old do you think he is (in cat years)?

 

[Tiny]

I feel like you have some desires about cats you need to get sorted out. Not judging though.

I'd probably seguay to sarcasim as well at this point if I were you.

It's the safe call.

 

[FIMN]

I don't need too.

Show me the surgery that can change your Y chromozone to an X. And that will let you grow ovaries.

Do that, and then you can convince me that you can indeed switch your sex.

This is a man playing dress up because he hates who he is.

He is no less ridiculous playing "pretend" than the cat man is.

Having no education on a topic is not a virtue or something to be proud of.

I'd respect it if you or Ben Shapiro had done significant research and study and arrived at a conclusion, but you haven't even bothered doing that. Posting cat people pictures or some celebrity nobody gives a fuck about is indicative of your mindset on this issue.

 

[Tiny]

Having no education on a topic is not a virtue or something to be proud of.

I'd respect it if you or Ben Shapiro had done significant research and study and arrived at a conclusion, but you haven't even bothered doing that. Posting cat people pictures or some celebrity nobody gives a fuck about is indicative of your mindset on this issue.

It's very very simple biology.

You don't need a phd in anything to know you can't change your chromozones or grow ovaries.

You can, however play a very expensive game of dress up. But you are still dressing up. Pretending to be something you are not.

Female/male is not a social construct. It's not about heels, or lipstick, long hair a high voice with a lisp or sticking your pinky out to drink.

Being a female is a biological identity. And you cannot physically change your sex because you don't like yourself. It's scientificaly and medically impossible.

I don't need to know much more than that.

 

[FIMN]

Do you think that you do?

But, more importantly, do you think that someone can have a genuine desire to understand it and at the same time come to a very different conclusion than you have?

Not really. I DGAF about transgender nonsense as it doesn't affect my life in any way and, despite right winger autistic screeching, isn't a political issue. My position can be summed up as let's leave it to the researchers and scientists in terms of it's medical impacts, and debate policy choices as and when they appear.

I have a couple of people in my extended circle who identify as transgender/gender queer, and it's not really something that interests me outside of making sure I treat them respectfully and listen when they speak. I'm not going to listen to a conservative shock jock in terms of forming a broad and sweeping view on their medical diagnoses, because I value honest enquiry and rational thought over placating a bunch of right wing trolls on the internet with simple soundbytes as though it's in any way a smart or honest way of understanding anything.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

I'd probably seguay to sarcasim as well at this point if I were you.

It's the safe call.

If I felt like I could give you a good answer I promise I would.


Here's this instead

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Show me the surgery that can change your Y chromozone to an X. And that will let you grow ovaries.

Would you do a man who did that and turned out a hot woman?
I think I'd find him to be a freak, but it makes me think.

 

[FIMN]

It's very very simple biology.

You don't need a phd in anything to know you can't change your chromozones or grow ovaries.

You can, however play a very expensive game of dress up. But you are still dressing up. Pretending to be something you are not.

Female/male is not a social construct. It's not about heels, or lipstick, long hair a high voice with a lisp or sticking your pinky out to drink.

Being a female is a biological identity. And you cannot physically change your sex because you don't like yourself. It's scientificaly and medically impossible.

I don't need to know much more than that.

That's fine, but not knowing anything about biology and not having any need or desire to educate yourself around something you have learnt via Ben Shapiro and right wing identity politics blogs is not going to convince me you have anything on the topic worth listening to you about.

I'll stick with scientists and people who try to learn and understand things for a living.

This reminds me of the Stewart Lee quote...

"I don't know anything about zoology, biology, geology, geography, marine biology, cryptozoology, evolutionary theory, evolutionary biology, meteorology, limnology, history, herpetology, palaeontology or archaeology but I think..."

 

[Tiny]

If I felt like I could give you a good answer I promise I would.


Here's this instead

It's crazy how easy it was to stump ya.

This is not a cat.

nor is this

This woman is not african american...

This is not baby

And this will never be a female.

 

[Tiny]

That's fine, but not knowing anything about biology and not having any need or desire to educate yourself around something you have learnt via Ben Shapiro and right wing identity politics blogs is not going to convince me you have anything on the topic worth listening to you about.

I'll stick with scientists and people who try to learn and understand things for a living.

This reminds me of the Stewart Lee quote...

"I don't know anything about zoology, biology, geology, geography, marine biology, cryptozoology, evolutionary theory, evolutionary biology, meteorology, limnology, history, herpetology, palaeontology or archaeology but I think..."

I know enough about biology that you can't change your Y chromsome to an X.

And every doctor on this planet would agree with that statement.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

It's crazy how easy it was to stump ya.

This is not a cat.

nor is this

This woman is not african american...

This is not baby

And this will never be a female.

Woah man, slow down. This is all going over my head.