Opinion What's the consensus on Ben Shapiro around here?

[M3t4tr0n]

I think I speak for everyone when I say... @panamaican this (and every?) message board would be better off without you.

Take your misery to a local coffee shop.

Speak for yourself, bro.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

What's wrong with it? He appeared to quote the man's exact words and demonstrate how those words contradict the idea of a logic based position that decries emotional appeals. He demonstrated that Shapiro is often arguing from a position of emotion with little substantive support for his arguments. He also makes the argument that Shapiro's positions often disregard easily found information that contradict his conclusions. That as a "great" debater, Shapiro should face those facts and refute them rather than disregard them in their entirety.

Now, I don't listen to Shapiro so I'll concede that up front but as a critique of his arguments, in the limited vein put forth by the author, I didn't see a lack of insight and found it an effective challenge to the quality of Shapiro's arguments..

Every word that leaves Shatpiros mouth is dripping with smug emotion.

 

[panamaican]

I think I speak for everyone when I say... @panamaican this (and every?) message board would be better off without you.

Take your misery to a local coffee shop.

I know that sometimes I say things that contradict the belief systems that you've internalized but that's what makes me such a great poster - the willingness to force you to examine things that you've taken for granted. It can be difficult, I get that. But soon enough, you'll learn the easiest lesson of all...I'm usually right.

 

[Luminaire]

I know that sometimes I say things that contradict the belief systems that you've internalized but that's what makes me such a great poster - the willingness to force you to examine things that you've taken for granted. It can be difficult, I get that. But soon enough, you'll learn the easiest lesson of all...I'm usually right.

Eeh, no surprise you seem to be impressed with yourself.

You're the most Bureaucratic poster I've ever come across.

You're like a day at the DMV.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2005/06/15/rescuing-a-generation-n1226748

Just wanted to drop Ben Shapiro's "I'm a virgin, and I'm better than you" article again.

Spoiler: The Virgin Ben

As I explain in my new book, "Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism Is Corrupting Our Future," in today's America, being a proud virgin is no easy task. Those with values are under attack in a culture that treasures "tolerance" above morality. It's no wonder that because of my outspoken advocacy of traditional morality in general and of virginity in particular, I've become a favorite target of Internet leftists, who often refer to me as "The Virgin Ben."

They call him "The Virgin Ben"

Come on, some of his fanboys have to think this is a little funny. Just pretend it is one of your least favorite libtards.

Spoiler: The real enemy

R-rated films today often include soft-core pornography; television shows like "Friends" promote a fun-filled, promiscuous lifestyle with no consequences

 

[curryjunkie]

I think I speak for everyone when I say... @panamaican this (and every?) message board would be better off without you.

Take your misery to a local coffee shop.

yea.................no

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

Spoiler: A call to arms!

But the future is not yet lost. Social conservatives must not retreat and cloister themselves; they must fight back against the continuing destruction of standards. Together, we can restore America's innocence.

Okay I'm done

 

[panamaican]

Eeh, no surprise you seem to be impressed with yourself.

You're the most Bureaucratic poster I've ever come across.

You're like a day at the DMV.

I'm not impressed with myself (I certainly know far more impressive people....some even post on this forum), I just see no reason to pretend to be less than I am.

And I'll take "bureaucratic" as a compliment since you obviously meant it as a commentary on the level of detail I assign to my various positions. I prefer bureaucratic to slipshod or superficial. There are worse insults to direct at a lawyer. But I think I'm fairly good at the ad hoc stuff too.

 

[Tiny]

Do you really think Shapiro has a genuine desire to actually understand transgenderism?

He's an ideologue and troll.

I think hes looked into it and decided that trying to convince your self that a man can become a woman by mutalation or playing dress up is impossible.

And hes right.

How have you missed him saying this?

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I quite liked him until I saw

Upon seeing this, I started to see the same slimy tactics in most, if not all of the arguments I've seen him trot forth. Incredibly dishonest.

And I'm tired of him telling me the government is going to bust down his doors and take away his DOCTOR WIFE.

Hmmm, interesting. Lot of dislikes to the video even though the person that did it seemed quite rational and coherent with his criticisms and put a fair bit of effort into it. I think some Shapiro fans got their feelings hurt.

 

[FIMN]

I think hes looked into it and decided that trying to convince your self that a man can become a woman by mutalation or playing dress up is impossible.

And hes right.

How have you missed him saying this?

I think he's probably not particularly well educated on this issue and happy staying that way. I'd be much more inclined to trust Dr's and researchers in this field whose job it is to actually look at facts and evidence and draw conclusions, rather than look to conservative shock jocks who are just trying to play identity politics.

 

[Tiny]

I think he's probably not particularly well educated on this issue and happy staying that way. I'd be much more inclined to trust Dr's and researchers in this field whose job it is to actually look at facts and evidence and draw conclusions, rather than look to conservative shock jocks who are just trying to play identity politics.

Here, let me help you out.

Is this person now a cat?

Maybe if he justs gets a few more surgeries?

 

[FIMN]

Here, let me help you out.

Is this person now a cat?

Maybe if he justs gets a few more surgeries?

What a brilliant and well thought out post that addressed the point I made.

 

[Tiny]

What a brilliant and well thought out post that addressed the point I made.

What if doctors told you to treat this person as a cat now...would you trust them?

"I'll trust doctors to tell me what's best, thanks!"

I don't see a cat in that photo...I see a dude with a mental disorder/identity issues who is PRETENDING to be something he's not.

That's how I feel about transgenders.

 

[Tiny]

How about this one...this should be easy!

Is this a baby boy?

Do you see a well adjust, normal person in this photo?

 

[hillelslovak87]

Hmmm, interesting. Lot of dislikes to the video even though the person that did it seemed quite rational and coherent with his criticisms and put a fair bit of effort into it. I think some Shapiro fans got their feelings hurt.

The video si kind of the opposite of Ben Shapiro. Slow, methodical, and detailed. On a lot of issues, Mr. Shapiro throws out a single data point absent context, then rattles off rhetoric at an extremely quick patter. It's quite like the tactic of blinding with science.

 

[hillelslovak87]

How about this one...this should be easy!

Is this a baby boy?

Do you see a well adjust, normal person in this photo?

The scientific term is Shouldus Offus Selfus.

 

[Bendo MMA Hero]

What if doctors told you to treat this person as a cat now...would you trust them?

"I'll trust doctors to tell me what's best, thanks!"

I don't see a cat in that photo...I see a dude with a mental disorder/identity issues who is PRETENDING to be something he's not.

That's how I feel about transgenders.

Okay, but are doctors telling you to do that?

 

[Tiny]

Okay, but are doctors telling you to do that?

Get enough libtards to cry for it, and they will.

But the point here that Shaprio is making is that is is as impossible to transform yourself into a cat as it is to transform yourself into a woman.

It's a fancy method of playing dress up. But you can't actually change your sex. Regardless of the amount of surgeries.

It's impossible.

And he's right.

 

[FIMN]

how I feel about

Research and scientific enquiry are more important than your feelings, or how Ben Shapiro tries to play on your feelings for the purposes of identity politics.