What's the 3 best movie plot twist? (Warning Possible Spoilers)

[minute bull]

Ok, show me in Ep4 or Ep5 where it is said or written 'Darth = Dark' and 'Vader = Father."

That's there is one bold stance to take. Let me guess, Kathleen Kennedy is somewhere to blame for it, too? Did you saw dat puddy tweet?

 

[ookii]

That chick was actually a dude the whole time!!!

That spoiler was ruined even before the internet age when that person was nominated for an oscar

 

[eworden78]

Voted Other for Frailty

 

[the ambush]

You're trying to be clever (and failing),

A plot twist is simply an unexpected development in the plot, no such condition on it as you're saying exists.

Imo 'I, AM YOUR FATHER' GOAT plot twist, end of...certainly most famous

I am a ESB homer yet I happen to agree with @GearSolidMetal

I think sometimes people tend to overpraise ESB for having epic moments that its twist was overrated. I venture to mention something like To Live and Die in L.A., The Pledge or Split offers more of a classic twist.

 

[Sara]

I picked three that were not spoiled for me before hand, saw, secret window and th best of them all Primal Fear.

 

[Magooglie]

Fight Club
The Matrix
Sixth Sense

 

[GearSolidMetal]

That's there is one bold stance to take. Let me guess, Kathleen Kennedy is somewhere to blame for it, too? Did you saw dat puddy tweet?

How is she relevant in this topic?

We're talking about movies that were made over 3 decades before Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney.

So, back on topic. Show me in Ep4 or Ep5 where it is said or written 'Darth = Dark' and 'Vader = Father."

 

[Jon Stark]

I went with the Prestige, Shutter Island and the Sixth Sense.

Holy shit so did I.

 

[Jon Stark]

Great lot of movies.

 

[minute bull]

How is she relevant in this topic?

We're talking about movies that were made over 3 decades before Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney.

So, back on topic. Show me in Ep4 or Ep5 where it is said or written 'Darth = Dark' and 'Vader = Father."

Your post doesn't stipulate that a clue needs to be spelled out, besides which foreshadowing is not necessary to a plot twist. That's just something you made up and get to move goalposts around. How Kathleen Kennedy relates illustrates the lengths of "made-up" to which you've drawn your spurious connections.

A plot twist casts a story into entirely new light or direction.

THE TWILIGHT ZONE did this every episode. TERMINATOR 2: the plot twist is Arnold's the good guy. No hint of that. PLANET OF THE APES: they're on earth the entire time and there was no hint until the very end if you don't count the VHS box cover. (Damn you, you dirty home video marketers).

What you seem to be arguing is something that applies against deus ex machina, where a surprise event occurs without any feasibility in the sense of set-up or foreshadowing. But unless you have something more, what you're talking about isn't on-topic anymore than Kathleen Kennedy.

 

[syct23]

That spoiler was ruined even before the internet age when that person was nominated for an oscar

It also had a number 1 hit song that year...

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Your post doesn't stipulate that a clue needs to be spelled out, besides which foreshadowing is not necessary to a plot twist. That's just something you made up and get to move goalposts around. How Kathleen Kennedy relates illustrates the lengths of "made-up" to which you've drawn your spurious connections

No, with every twist in every movie there are clues, or 'foreshadowing.'

That is the difference between surprises and twists.

A plot twist casts a story into entirely new light or direction.

Please explain how this is different than a surprise.

Are they synonyms?

THE TWILIGHT ZONE did this every episode.

I've never seen an episode of Twilight Zone, so I can't give examples of which ones were twists or surprises, or if they were all suprises or all were twists.

TERMINATOR 2: the plot twist is Arnold's the good guy. No hint of that.

Kinda irrelevant because the marketing gave up the 'twist' weeks before its release. But I imagine since the T-1000's introduction was first, and he killed a cop, that have away he was the villain. The T-800 didn't, and the comical choice of the 'Bad To The Bone' track were clues.

But, it wasn't a suprising twist because Arnold had been playing good guys for years.

PLANET OF THE APES: they're on earth the entire time and there was no hint until the very end if you don't count the VHS box cover. (Damn you, you dirty home video marketers).

Haven't seen it.

What you seem to be arguing is something that applies against deus ex machina, where a surprise event occurs without any feasibility in the sense of set-up or foreshadowing. But unless you have something more, what you're talking about isn't on-topic anymore than Kathleen Kennedy.

No. Dues Ex Machina is a totally different topic.

Darth Vader saying "No Luke, I am your father," is not a Dues Ex Machina.

It did not save Luke from certain death or failure.

 

[minute bull]

Please explain how this is different than a surprise.

Surprise is not a story device. It is an outcome. A plot twist need not be a surprise.

Explain why plot twists must be foreshadowed.

 

[melvinj0]

The Skin I Live In

Plot: A plastic surgeon keeps a woman who resembles his late wife as a hostage in his home.

Spoiler

The woman turns out to be a man who molested the plastic surgeons daughters causing the daughter to commit suicide. The plastic surgeon kidnapped the man and gave him a sex change and other plastic surgeries to make him resemble his late wife.

 

[HARRISON_3]

Why isn't Titanic on the list?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Surprise is not a story device. It is an outcome.

What?
Explain how a surprise in a story is not a 'story device.'

A plot twist need not be a surprise.

Yes, if a viewer figured out the twist before it is revealed.

Explain why plot twists must be foreshadowed.

I already have in my first post on the first page.

"The difference between twists and surprises, are clues.

There was no clues of the twist before the twist was revealed, so it was a surprise."

 

[Fedorgasm]

Prestige and Se7en were the two that completely blew my mind.

However, in neither case did I know there was a twist ending. That's the best case scenario, because if you even hear that a movie had a good twist then you'll be expecting it and looking to consider all possibilities to figure it out beforehand instead of just enjoying the movie.

 

[USA!USA!]

Fuck so hard to choose 3

I chose Shutter Island The Prestige, and The Usual Suspects


and immediately regret not voting for Fight Club or the 6th Sense

 

[HunterSdVa29]

not exactly a plot twist per se, but Hardball starts off basically as an urban/inner city Bad News Bears, something crazy happens, and then the rest of the movie's plot and tone is completely different

It's also, real talk, by far the saddest movie i've ever seen.

Also, a movie like Ravenous could fit this, if we're not just counting end of story plot twists (which seem to be what everyone is referring too).

 

[minute bull]

What?
Explain how a surprise in a story is not a 'story device.'

You mean beyond what I just said? Surprise is a feeling you feel when something happens that you did not expect. You're referring to plot twists and trying to weasel your way out of ... god only knows what or why.

But to be sure surprises can occur without being plot twists or even plot-oriented because, knowing you, audiences can be surprised by anything -- even what is plainly obvious to others. Cameo casting is a huge source of such unscripted surprises.

I already have in my first post on the first page.

"The difference between twists and surprises, are clues.

There was no clues of the twist before the twist was revealed, so it was a surprise."

That is circular reasoning.

I didn't ask you why a plot twist is different from a surprise -- I don't have that handicap -- I asked why must a plot twist be set-up with clues?

Because WTF would be your original point? That the threadtitle should be changed to the best SURPRISES? That's a distinction needs to be made?